Prostitution: legal-ethical discussion-debate

s243a

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Where do you get your numbers from???

Sure some hookers (in a city the size of Calgary, maybe 10 or so on any given night) make good money - but if the lucre is so good, how come they aren't all landladys with apartment towers?

Seriously, back those numbers up before you expect anyone to believe that claim.

Pangloss


Well, I think I heard of someone in Calgary that paid a hooker 1500 just to crawl around the floor and talk mean to him. If you don't believe my numbers go ask some hocker how much for a hand job. I bet you at least talking 100 to 150 dollars. And yeah, I'm talking about the hot ones in there 20. Not cheap looking ones. I saw a documentary on prostitution. Some high class ones charge 10 000 dollars just for one weekend.

It might be hard for them to buy property though. The tax man might have questions. As for how many perhaps in Calgary you may see 10 or 20 on the street that take in a decent amount on the weekended. There could be a lot more that work on a call in basis. In other cities they might not do as well but there is a lot of money in Calgary and more guys in the city then girls. There are probably a lot more tricks going on then you know about.
 

s243a

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Not when there is coercion. Let's be clear - I am talking about street-level prostitution and particularly illegal street level prostitution.

Pangloss


Perhaps we are talking about different things. I was talking about independent prostitutes over the age of majority. Obviously when there is coercion or underage people then that is definitely a problem.
 

Sparrow

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There would be no prostitution if there were no clients.

However it is called 'the oldest profession' and will never be erased because of demand. I don't approve of it but I do believe that those who decide to work in this line need to be protected. Both pimps and many johns do put these workers in danger. Also due to disease etc this workers put their clients in danger. Legalization would protect both the client and worker (forget the pimps they can rot in hell). The pimping style of prostitution is what brings the criminal element to the streets and there is only one way to eliminate or at least significantly reduce this problem.
 

adahen2

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Men sell their bodies out to corporations for the purpose of performing labour, they hold a lot of pride in themself for their work, why would it be any different for a woman?
Women are more then vagina's,they have brains and they are better at using them. Prostitution is neither ethical or morally right. It degrades a human to being just a slab of meat,any looser can have sex but not any looser can make the deal.Since women have brains maybe they want to use them and get out of a man's kitchen and bed.
 

adahen2

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Make it legal and get it off the street.?? What is that????????

Let me get this straight you think it is all right to buy a woman like you buy a pair of shoes. Women are not merchandise When you go out today it is off to the diner,buy a pair of shoes then go to the next building and buy a woman.Go back to your cave
 
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adahen2

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Prostitution should be illegal it devalues a person.It would never be that easy anyway,just get the women off the streets and in a nice warm bed for me?There are some people who feel worth less so our society should make sure they feel even less human and spiritual. Which is what women are Human and spiritual and nurturing . What would the World be like without Women? Nothing.
 

Pangloss

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Men sell their bodies out to corporations for the purpose of performing labour, they hold a lot of pride in themself for their work, why would it be any different for a woman?
Women are more then vagina's,they have brains and they are better at using them. Prostitution is neither ethical or morally right. It degrades a human to being just a slab of meat,any looser can have sex but not any looser can make the deal.Since women have brains maybe they want to use them and get out of a man's kitchen and bed.

Adahen, take a breath and consider your position. First, is prostitution only a male client/female provider service? There are no male prostitutes? And no female customers?

Second, what is so special about non-procreative sex that it belongs in a different category of human endeavour? My massage therapist makes me feel good; carpenters use their bodies for money, dancers train their bodies and perform for us, for money.

So is it the orgasm that changes everything? How, exactly?

No, I don't think it is alright to buy anyone like a pair of shoes - but we are all rented. It's called having a job. To purchase someone is for them to be your slave.

Slavery is probably a bad thing. Something about taking someone's humanity away. Oh, and their freedom.

You seem to believe that no woman (or man, presumably) would ever freely choose to work in the sex trade. Sorry, Adahen, but perhaps there are no history books or newspapers in you cave (there are in mine) - throughout history, men and women have chosen to make their livings on their backs - some have done quite well.

You say that prostitution is neither ethical nor right. Before I address your totally unsupported opinion, I would like you to tell me what the difference is between an "ethical" act and a "right" one.

Your confusion with simple language might be a sign of your muddled thinking.

To the question of ethics: I'm a prostitute, and there is a customer. We negotiate services offered, and what the prices are. We come to terms, have sex, I get paid, and the customer leaves.

Where do ethics enter into this?

Look at this another way: I'm a baker, and there is a hungry customer. Customer asks for a roll, or perhaps sticky buns, and I ask for money. The price seems right, and my buns are certainly tempting, so my buns are enjoyed, and I'm a little richer. Everybody's happy.

Adahen, avoiding insults like "going back to (my) cave" will go a long way to fostering constructive dialogue.

Pangloss
 

s243a

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So if the person drives to pick up a prostitute you take away their car. What do you do if they walk to pick one up? Do you cut off their foot?
 

s243a

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In the spirit of not "buying woman" girlfriends and wives should stop asking for so much money and learn to make more of their own. Also the practices of alimony has to stop.
 

Pangloss

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In the spirit of not "buying woman" girlfriends and wives should stop asking for so much money and learn to make more of their own. Also the practices of alimony has to stop.

What? Are you writing from the 1950's? What the hell does this have to do with this thread? Or are you just trolling?

Start a new anti-feminist thread if you want - this is about prostitution.

Pangloss
 

s243a

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What? Are you writing from the 1950's? What the hell does this have to do with this thread? Or are you just trolling?

Start a new anti-feminist thread if you want - this is about prostitution.

Pangloss

How is it anti-feminist? Don't feminist want equality. Besides you heard the expression before. Dating is prostitution.
 

Pangloss

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How is it anti-feminist? Don't feminist want equality. Besides you heard the expression before. Dating is prostitution.

s243a - Sorry man, but if those are your views, you've missed about 30 years of human rights progress.

Send me a private message and perhaps I can get my time machine warmed up. I am honestly flummoxed at your backdated views. I'm trying to not insult you - it is just that I don't know how to address these anachronisms.

Pangloss
 

s243a

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s243a - Sorry man, but if those are your views, you've missed about 30 years of human rights progress.

Send me a private message and perhaps I can get my time machine warmed up. I am honestly flummoxed at your backdated views. I'm trying to not insult you - it is just that I don't know how to address these anachronisms.

Pangloss

Really? How often do you think in this modern age the woman buys dinner? My sisters friend once said that my sister could come out of the bar with more money then she came in with.
 

Zzarchov

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Really? How often do you think in this modern age the woman buys dinner? My sisters friend once said that my sister could come out of the bar with more money then she came in with.

Quite often, expand your dating pool.