President's family among dead in terror attack in Kenya mall by al-Qaeda-linked group
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Yep- I am incredibly average.
You have no credibility - I think that Members replying to you post a similar phrase.
It was obvious as to what religion the perpetrators of this terrorist attack were before it was even confirmed in the news.
The sooner something is done about Islime, the better.
It seems that the ringleader of this latest Islamic terrorist atrocity was a WOMAN, and not only that but she was white, British and the widow of one of the 7/7 bombers.
Ringleader: Samantha Lewthwaite, 29, originally from Buckinghamshire, the "white widow" of Jamaican-born 7/7 suicide bomber Germaine Lindsay, was described as a 'brave lady' by Islamist terror group Al Shabaab
The terror attack on a Kenyan shopping centre that has left 68 dead was being led by the white English widow of a 7/7 bomber, it was claimed last night.
Soldiers said a white woman wearing a veil was shouting orders to gunmen in Arabic during the bloody massacre inside the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi.
Islamist terror group Al Shabaab (Arabic for "the youth") claimed it carried out the atrocity in which three Britons were killed and 175 people were left injured.
It said last night on Twitter that Samantha Lewthwaite, the ‘white widow’ of London 7/7 bomber Germaine Lindsay, was ‘in their ranks’ and a ‘brave lady’.
Fifteen hostages were still trapped inside the shopping centre after more than 24 hours of carnage.
The attack saw men, women and children slaughtered if they could not recite the Koran or name the mother of the Prophet Mohammed.
As well as boasting Lewthwaite was with them, Al Shabaab claimed two British men from London, Liban Adam, 23, and Ahmed Nasir Shirdoon, 24, were among the ‘holy warriors’ in the attack.
The group is said to be highly organised, with huge amounts of ammunition as well as night vision equipment.
Escape: Women carrying children run for safety after al Shabaab terrorists stormed Westgate shopping center in Nairobi, Kenya armed with guns and grenades
Writing on Twitter, the terrorists said: ‘Sherafiyah lewthwaite aka samantha is a vrave [brave] lady! were [we are] happier to have her in our ranks!’
Sherafiyah is the Muslim name now used by Lewthwaite.
Another tweet read: ‘our mujahideen are prepared to die for our cause!’
Last night the terrorists were closed into the second and third floors of a storage warehouse in the mall.
Soldiers claimed to have taken control of the ground and first floors.
One said: ‘It is all being controlled by this muzungu [Swahili for white] woman. She is ordering them what to do. We are getting closer to them.’
Read more: Terror in Kenya 'led by white widow': shocking picture shows terrified little girl fleeing mall massacre | Mail Online
I don't know why they don't just send in the SAS. They would have gone in there, killed all the terrorists, and be back out with all the hostages safe and sound in just ten to fifteen minutes.
The sooner something is done about Islime, the better.
It seems that the ringleader of this latest Islamic terrorist atrocity was a WOMAN, and not only that but she was white, British and the widow of one of the 7/7 bombers.
Ringleader: Samantha Lewthwaite, 29, originally from Buckinghamshire, the "white widow" of Jamaican-born 7/7 suicide bomber Germaine Lindsay, was described as a 'brave lady' by Islamist terror group Al Shabaab
The terror attack on a Kenyan shopping centre that has left 68 dead was being led by the white English widow of a 7/7 bomber, it was claimed last night.
Soldiers said a white woman wearing a veil was shouting orders to gunmen in Arabic during the bloody massacre inside the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi.
Islamist terror group Al Shabaab (Arabic for "the youth") claimed it carried out the atrocity in which three Britons were killed and 175 people were left injured.
It said last night on Twitter that Samantha Lewthwaite, the ‘white widow’ of London 7/7 bomber Germaine Lindsay, was ‘in their ranks’ and a ‘brave lady’.
Fifteen hostages were still trapped inside the shopping centre after more than 24 hours of carnage.
The attack saw men, women and children slaughtered if they could not recite the Koran or name the mother of the Prophet Mohammed.
As well as boasting Lewthwaite was with them, Al Shabaab claimed two British men from London, Liban Adam, 23, and Ahmed Nasir Shirdoon, 24, were among the ‘holy warriors’ in the attack.
The group is said to be highly organised, with huge amounts of ammunition as well as night vision equipment.
Escape: Women carrying children run for safety after al Shabaab terrorists stormed Westgate shopping center in Nairobi, Kenya armed with guns and grenades
Writing on Twitter, the terrorists said: ‘Sherafiyah lewthwaite aka samantha is a vrave [brave] lady! were [we are] happier to have her in our ranks!’
Sherafiyah is the Muslim name now used by Lewthwaite.
Another tweet read: ‘our mujahideen are prepared to die for our cause!’
Last night the terrorists were closed into the second and third floors of a storage warehouse in the mall.
Soldiers claimed to have taken control of the ground and first floors.
One said: ‘It is all being controlled by this muzungu [Swahili for white] woman. She is ordering them what to do. We are getting closer to them.’
Read more: Terror in Kenya 'led by white widow': shocking picture shows terrified little girl fleeing mall massacre | Mail Online
I don't know why they don't just send in the SAS. They would have gone in there, killed all the terrorists, and be back out with all the hostages safe and sound in just ten to fifteen minutes.
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Tea Party Member!
Do you plan on writing anything intelligent in this forum though? We are waiting. So far you've shown nothing but ignorance. You do realize not one person in here is impressed with you don't you?
Thats like blaming all Christians for the KKK or the WBC. This incident happened in Africa, not here or in the US. It was Muslims attacking other Muslims and westerners just happened to be at the site of the attack. The group which claimed responsibility has said it was a reprisal for Kenyan interference in Somalia. The soldiers who are currently trying to retake the mall are predominantly Muslims. That is more than speaking out against the extremists. The muslims who are here and leading normal law abiding lives have absolutely no responsibility for what other members of their religion do. Most of them likely came here to get away from the extremists.
No because they are killing Christians and yelling Allahu Akbar (Allah is the greatest) ... pretty good sign the killings are in the name of Allah...
This is just a faction of nutters, but it does not paint Islam in a favorable light.
Seems a handy phrase to remember; "Aminah bint Wahb." Muhammad's Mother :roll:
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Your history prof should have flunked you.
There was no promise to Ho Chi Minh from the US gov't................although his OSS handler, a guy with the unlikely name of Archimedes Patti, fully expected the USA to back Ho's new gov't and an independent Vietnam. However, anti-colonialism was FDR's thing.....and he died in April of 1945. Truman saw things differently.
The Red Scare in the USA prompted the American gov't to support de Gaulle's gov't in France, as a way to thwart communism in that country. no matter what that prima donna took on. Unfortunately, de Gaulle wanted French IndoChina back.
You are correct on one thing: US involvement in Vietnam was a disaster from the end of WW II forward. But it was based on what the USA saw as larger issues, especially during and after Korea.
BTW, as an aside, Matthew Ridgeway (who replaced MacArthur in Korea) was sent to look over the situation in Vietnam in the late 50s. He said it would take 2 million troops to pacify the place, and a million occupation troops to keep it that way.........in other words, don't touch it!!! He was right.
Ther idea that the USA is "ideologically unstable" is ridiculous, as is the idea that the USSR was never a threat.
Invented terrorists???
Tell that to the families of several dozen dead in Kenya, or the families of almost 2700 dead from 911, or the families of the 79 dead in a Pakistani Christian church yesterday, or the families of the victims of the more than 20,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks world-wide
since 2001. That is 4 a DAY.
Absolutely correct. The last thing we want to do as a nation and a culture is to reduce ourselves to their level.
It's political nut cases. Do you know any political nut cases who are obsessed with the left/right malarkey created to divide and conquer?
If they yelled yabbadabbadoo would it change anything?
LOL This coming from a guy that calls all "Yanks" stupid, and is bios against anyone from the United States.. but hey, if it's an Islamist terrorist, we must do out best not to offend.
Christ!!! :roll: :lol:
Well I guess Tober is a Camel Jockey Troll...
I know of one.. Obama.
"If he were my son."
Getting personal again I see? Sure evidence of an exhausted mind - such as it is.
You are quibbling over the definition of "promise" but agreeing that America changed its mind. What is the source of your position? How exactly does your quibbling over the word “promise” serve your position? It looks to me like you disagreed on a small point of semantics but accept the correctness of my position.
Agreed. In other words America was in the wrong.
That’s what history says.
The Pentagon said in 1967 that the Vietnam War was unwinnable conventionally. Operation Duck Hook was Nixon’s plan to escalate the war into nuclear war.
Just a flat statement, no source and no logic to back it up? What else would you call the neo-conservative movement and the American Century project? The assassination of JFK has been widely acknowledged as a coup d’etat. Or does Colpy have it all over the world's professional historians and writers?
Too subtle a concept?
Are you serious? Do you think you can successfully argue geopolitics by engaging in an emotional body count? What do you think is the ultimate body count from the US sponsored coup d’état that toppled the legitimate Iranian government in the early 1950’s? What do you think will be the ultimate consequence of American petro-politics stifling the legitimate political aspirations of much of the Middle East and Gulf since then?
You seem to be so hopelessly "American" that I wonder if you might be interested Gwyn Dyer's opinion about America and the ME in “After Iraq”. You do know who Gwyn Dyer is, I hope?
"After Iraq," Gwyn Dyer, St. Martin's Press, 2008 (Final 3 paras of book.)
International power does not depend solely on resources, money, and weapons, though you cannot have it without those things. It depends also on reputation: a reputation for honest dealing, for consistency, for success. No country, not even the United States at the moment of its greatest triumph, the victory in the Second World War, is so powerful that it can neglect these factors - but it had them then, in spades. In the late 1940s, and all the way through the 1950s, America was seen by most of the non-Communist world as the shining City on the Hill. American diplomats were deferred to, American intentions were rarely questioned, and American competence was assumed.
That uncritical admiration came to an end with the Vietnam War: the United States was revealed as a country like the others, capable of committing huge errors and great cruelties. But the wounds that the Vietnam War inflicted on the United States' reputation were much shallower than they appeared, and healed quickly. By the late 1980s and early 1990s, the United States was seen once again as an extremely useful international citizen and a natural leader, albeit without the starry-eyed admiration of earlier years. But the current U.S. adventures in the Middle East are having a more profoundly damaging effect on America's reputation, because they call into question its motives and even its basic competence. This occurring at a time, moreover, when its relative power in theworld is already on the slide, due to the emergence of new great powers in Asia. The Iraq fiasco has created the potential for a drop in the United States' influence in the world: invading country with one-twelfth of its population illegally, without provocation, and on false pretexts, and then mismanaging theoccupation so badly that it loses the subsequent guerrilla war suggests that the United States is not only a dangerously erratic superpower but a seriously incompetent one. If it follows up attacking Iran, the loss of power will be precipitous and largely irreversible. As Zbigniew Brzezinski put it, the United States will "lose its place in the world."
This is not a desirable outcome: the twentieth century would have ended much less happily if not for the enormous and mostly benign influence of the United States. But it is increasingly becoming a likely outcome.
I see you are quite fond of Colpy. You know I think it is his hair style.
Those rugged good looks.
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Photo: Former US National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski organizing the CIA's Arab legionaries, which would later become Al Qaeda, in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region in the early 80's. Al Qaeda would later spin off into regional terrorist organizations, covertly armed, trained, and protected by the CIA to this day, including LIFG in Libya, MEK in Iraq and Iran, and Baluchi terrorists in Pakistan.
Bin Laden's Al Qaeda would continue to fight after the Soviets were expelled from Afghanistan, this time in Kosovo's bid for independence from Serbia in the late 1990's. Al Qaeda-trained Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) militants garnered a Serbian response which was then used by NATO as a pretext for intervention. NATO's entry into the war led to the eventual carving up of the nation. Again, the CIA was found to be propping up Bin Laden's terrorist legionaries. Serbia's president, Slobodan Milošević would later be removed from power by yet another arm of American interventionism, the National Endowment for Democracy via Optor, now known as the infamous CANVAS organization which, with US funding, trained activists ahead of the now admittedly US-engineered "Arab Spring."
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By all accounts, including admissions by former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, Osama Bin Laden's organization that would become Al Qaeda was created during the Soviet-Afghan war in in the late 70's and throughout the 80's. The funding of these militants did not begin after the Soviet invasion, but actually several years before the invasion. US intervention in Afghanistan by training and arming Afghanistan's Mujaheddin, along with Osama Bin Laden's Arab fighters, is one of the leading factors that led to the murderous and protracted decade-long war, according to the Nation in an article titled, "Blowback, the Prequel."
Photo: Former US National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski organizing the CIA's Arab legionaries, which would later become Al Qaeda, in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region in the early 80's. Al Qaeda would later spin off into regional terrorist organizations, covertly armed, trained, and protected by the CIA to this day, including LIFG in Libya, MEK in Iraq and Iran, and Baluchi terrorists in Pakistan.....
Bin Laden's Al Qaeda would continue to fight after the Soviets were expelled from Afghanistan, this time in Kosovo's bid for independence from Serbia in the late 1990's. Al Qaeda-trained Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) militants garnered a Serbian response which was then used by NATO as a pretext for intervention. NATO's entry into the war led to the eventual carving up of the nation. Again, the CIA was found to be propping up Bin Laden's terrorist legionaries. Serbia's president, Slobodan Milošević would later be removed from power by yet another arm of American interventionism, the National Endowment for Democracy via Optor, now known as the infamous CANVAS organization which, with US funding, trained activists ahead of the now admittedly US-engineered "Arab Spring."
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Wow ANOTHER show of ignorance from the tober troll.. Goober is from Alberta, not a Yank Red State moron .. duh.. I guess geography isn't your strong point..
As far a Canada's education, you are correct there.. Canada is 5th overall.
World education rankings: which country does best at reading, maths and science? | News | theguardian.com
Sad turn of events about the gunmen.. 1 was a Canadian Citizen and 3 from the United States..
Hmmm I not so sure I TRUST A POLL THAT CALLS 'literacy ' - reading.
is Math='counting'?
Science = labclass????
'You’re a very bad man': Astonishing moment British boy, four, confronted Kenyan mall gunman… who gave him Mars bars and begged for forgiveness
Elliot Prior with mother and sister, 6, when terrorists burst into supermarket
They hid under a cold meat counter for over an hour before they were found
Elliot argued with attacker who said: 'Please forgive me, we're not monsters'
Children later seen holding chocolate next to dead body outside Nairobi mall
Gunfire heard early today despite Kenyan assurances mall had been secured
'At least 10 hostages still being held by a band of Al Shabaab militants'
'Up to three American teenagers and a British woman among terrorists'
British Defence Secretary confirms six UK deaths and number could rise
By Tara Brady and Simon Tomlinson
24 September 2013
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A four-year-old British boy caught up in the Kenya mall massacre showed astonishing bravery by confronting a marauding gunman who ended up begging for his forgiveness, it emerged today.
Elliot Prior, from Windsor, Berkshire, told one of the terrorists that he was a 'very bad man' as he protected his mother, Amber, who had been shot in the leg, and six-year-old sister Amelie.
Incredibly, the attacker took pity on the family and bizarrely handed the children Mars bars before telling them: 'Please forgive me, we are not monsters.'
His story emerged as sporadic gunfire continued to ring out from inside the mall early today as Kenyan security forces battled Al Qaeda-linked terrorists into a fourth day.
Despite Kenyan police assurances that they had taken control of the building, a security expert with contacts inside the mall said at least 10 hostages were still being held by a band of attackers, possibly as many as 13.
Kenya's foreign minister Amina Mohamed said 'two or three' Americans and one British woman were among those who attacked the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi.
Amazing courage: Four-year-old British boy Elliot Prior and his sister Amelie, from Windsor, hold Mars bars next to a dead body outside the Westgate shopping centre in Nairobi after being given the chocolate by a gunman who spared their lives
Horror: Their mother, Amber, walks past the body of a man as they escape the Westgate shopping centre
His mother, Amber, told of her family’s terrifying escape from Al Shabaab terrorists who butchered 62 people in the Nairobi shopping centre.
The film producer had been queuing to buy milk in Nairobi's Westgate Shopping Centre when the militants struck.
She hid under a cold meat counter in the Nakumatt supermarket for an hour-and-a-half with her children beneath her before terrorists finally found them and shot her in the thigh.
Elliot's uncle, Alex Coutts, told The Sun: 'They had a lucky escape. The terrorists said if any of the kids were alive in the supermarket they could leave.
'Amber made the decision to stand up and say "yes".'
'Then Elliot started arguing with them and called them bad men. He was very brave.'
Bizarrely, the terrorists handed the children Mars bars before they fled with two other children, including a 12-year-old boy who had at first refused to leave his dead mother.
Terrifying: Film producer Amber had been queuing to buy milk in a supermarket when the militants struck
Lucky escape: Amber hid under a cold meat counter in the Nakumatt supermarket for an hour-and-a-half with her children beneath her before terrorists finally found them and shot her in the thigh
Read more: Kenyan Mall gunmen gave 2 children Mars bars before sparing their lives | Mail Online
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It's also been revealed that the supposed ringleader behind the attack, white British Muslim convert Samantha Lewthwaite, 29, the "white widow" of 7/7 bomber Germaine Lindsay, may have been killed: Kenya mall shooting: Has British 'White Widow' Samantha Lewthwaite been killed in Nairobi siege? | Mail Online
All those photos are staged by elements of Mossad. Israeli mall, Israeli troops, Israeli false flag event. New president not favoured by Israel.
Grandmother of British terrorist White Widow is taken to hospital after collapsing with stress as neighbours in her home town speak of their shock
Northern Irish terrorist Samantha Lewthwaite's frail, 85-year-old grandmother has been admitted to hospital because of the stress of her granddaughter's notoriety. Elizabeth Allen, from Banbridge, Co Down, was given a panic alarm to contact security services in case terror suspect Lewthwaite ever made contact.
The Aylesbury home of Andy Lewthwaite, Samantha's father: Lewthwaite was still at primary school when her family moved from Banbridge, County Down to Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire
Samantha Lewthwaite: Aylesbury girl with no confidence who turned into the White Widow | Mail Online
Northern Irish terrorist Samantha Lewthwaite's frail, 85-year-old grandmother has been admitted to hospital because of the stress of her granddaughter's notoriety. Elizabeth Allen, from Banbridge, Co Down, was given a panic alarm to contact security services in case terror suspect Lewthwaite ever made contact.
The Aylesbury home of Andy Lewthwaite, Samantha's father: Lewthwaite was still at primary school when her family moved from Banbridge, County Down to Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire
Samantha Lewthwaite: Aylesbury girl with no confidence who turned into the White Widow | Mail Online
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