President's family among dead in terror attack in Kenya mall by al-Qaeda-linked group

Sons of Liberty

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Yeah? What for? For pointing out that my grandfather's army regiment was based in Kenya when it was part of the British Empire?

You know what for, I highlighted in bold and underlined it.

Funnily enough, that's also what the rest of the world feels about you Yanks, too. You lot hardly get foreigners throwing flowers at you and kissing your feet whenever you go abroad.

We don't want nor need people kissing our feet. And it's not the same, people still hate you guys centuries after your empire crumbled, imagine that.

This post sounds like something I would expect to read on a r/w US blog, not a Canadian web site.

That's because you believe Canadians walk on water, aren't racist, aren't greedy, aren't stupid and any other slang you can think of, when in reality they are just like the rest of the planet.

Well they were. Especially the Mau Mau.

Why don't you knock it off Blackleaf, you've said the same thing about all British colonies, past and present.
 

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Perhaps, but they had more of a right to be there than any Briton.

Who says so?

The Mau Mau were bloodthirsty savages, who killed more Africans than Britons. They thought nothing of beheading children.

What President Barack doesn't like to mention too often is that his father was a Mau Mau. I wonder how many kids his father killed.

And it's not the same,

Yes, it is.

people still hate you guys

They hate Americans even more.
 

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The Mau Mau slaughtered anyone who was not willing to take up arms against Britain. They did not kill that many whites actually which is bizarre. The Mau Mau are the reason I am Canadian and not African.
 

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Who says so?

The Mau Mau were bloodthirsty savages, who killed more Africans than Britons. They thought nothing of beheading children....

They hate Americans even more.

Americans in Vietnam shot them and used napalm instead. History doesn't change much, does it?
 

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Its time to wake up and realize we are at war with Islam George Bush may have
been right for the wrong reason. If the moderate Muslims do not stand up and
demand an end to their own radicals behaviour this thing is going to spill over
and it will be ugly at home and overseas. It ramps up with each attack. That is
what the nut cases want. All I hear from the Islamic community thus far is silence.

You should worry more about radicalism on this continent. The label moderate is applied by the west to sniveling cowards and traitors who piss on their own for the internationalist monsters. You hear nothing from the Islamic community because the zionist international global BS community hogs the GD media.

Al Qaeda is working for who?

Yes they probably work for the WHO as well as us (the construct of the much blathered about international community). An owned opposition is a dependable opposition. It always follows your predictions. The economic war is being conducted mostly against you not the hired invented terrorists.
 

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Funnily enough, that's also what the rest of the world feels about you Yanks, too. You lot hardly get foreigners throwing flowers at you and kissing your feet whenever you go abroad.

The day after the US captured Baghdad news reported the Brits playing soccer with the locals in their area and Americans killing demonstrators in Baghdad. It was obvious that the US attitude sparked the problems. Americans immediately became dictatorial and tried to force Iraqis to bow to the conqueror. Then shot them for objecting.
 

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The day after the US captured Baghdad news reported the Brits playing soccer with the locals in their area and Americans killing demonstrators in Baghdad. It was obvious that the US attitude sparked the problems. Americans immediately became dictatorial and tried to force Iraqis to bow to the conqueror. Then shot them for objecting.
Try to stay on topic. Chat with the voices.


Canada promises to investigate report that Ontario man among militants in Kenya mall siege | National Post

TORONTO — Canada offered its “full support” for the investigation into a deadly terrorist attack at a Nairobi shopping mall Sunday after an Ontario man was identified as one of the gunmen responsible.

The involvement of a Canadian has not been confirmed, but a “24 y.o. from Ontario Canada” is included on what appears to be a list of the gunmen that was posted on a Twitter feed that purports to belong to the Al-Shabab press office.

The Twitter account was suspended shortly after the list of names of the “mujahedin” were posted on Sunday afternoon.

The SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors terrorist propaganda on the Internet, said the Twitter user that posted the names was not a confirmed Al-Shabab spokesman. SITE also said it was “very unusual” for jihadists to identify fighters before they had died.
 

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Try to stay on topic. Chat with the voices.

Do you find it uncomfortable being American on a website away from home, where opinions about America from all but a small group of fellow thinkers reflect the usual world view? Sorry, Goober. This isn't personal. Fact is that this is a political site and America is (and has been throughout my lifetime) the loudest voice around. Canada could be just as bad as America and nobody would notice because we aren't demanding that the world pay attention to us.
 

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Do you find it uncomfortable being American on a website away from home, where opinions about America from all but a small group of fellow thinkers reflect the usual world view? Sorry, Goober. This isn't personal. Fact is that this is a political site and America is (and has been throughout my lifetime) the loudest voice around. Canada could be just as bad as America and nobody would notice because we aren't demanding that the world pay attention to us.
As to my being an American that is fine with me.
I have nothing in my posts, or my opinion to be sorry about. When I am in error, someone brings that to my attention. From those members who make a clear and valid point I then dig deeper. It has happened on a number of occasions, and I was wrong, completely and utterly wrong.
I did not and do not run away from that, I embrace the knowledge that I have gained.
You do not.
 

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An owned opposition is a dependable opposition. It always follows your predictions. The economic war is being conducted mostly against you not the hired invented terrorists.

Too true. As a young man in the navy I recall always hearing media reports about countries alleged to be Communist supports who were "puppet" governments. Of course this sounded grossly unfair and manipulative and made me feel anger against the communist leaders - as it was intended to do. By 1978 I had returned to school and started to major in history.

One morning I attended a class in which the professor lectured on the Vietnam War with reference to the many uncomfortable truths exposed by the Pentagon Papers. It was a total surprise. It turned out that most of the truths that had been the foundation of my political and historic beliefs to then had been not only untrue, but deliberate lies and propaganda.

Ho Chi Minh was on the Allied side in WW2 against Japan. He aided the allies in return for a promise of Vietnamese autonomy after the war. The US and Britain agreed. After the war ended the French said no we want our colony back, so America turned the Jap POW’s loose under Allied officers against the Vietnamese. Eventually France tried to run the country as its old colony but failed. That resulted in their military defeat by General Giap at Dien Bien Phu.

The Vietnamese demanded freedom. A north-south split developed in Vietnam in which America, having already sided against Ho Chi Minh in the north, sided with the minority in South Vietnam. A demilitarized zone was set up half way down the country And elections were called to determine wither the government of the north or south would form the central government. It became obvious that the north would win so the US and France cancelled the elections.

The Vietnamese refused to be satisfied with half a country. Even in the south the government could not have won a free election. China was not the driving factor, Vietnamese nationalism was. Eventually America had to giver up and within three years the south fell. Within two years after that Vietnam was at war with China.

The war in Vietnam developed serious strains of anti-Americanism, but that was because America butted in after breaking its WW2 promises. The Vietnam War was primarily a civil war. Every foreigner who became involved from 1945 on was bloodied. The Japs, the French, the Americans and finally the Chinese.

The biggest surprise was not so much that America was proved wrong. The biggest surprise was that so much of what the US claimed as true was lies. There is a huge difference between someone who has been wrong and someone who lies to you. All of a sudden everything they have ever said is open to question, and whenever their interpretation is disagreed with the presumption arises that nothing they say can be trusted. So what happened next? Gradually everything went back to normal. Old lies were forgotten. Then along came Iraq. Dubya not only lied America into a totally immoral and unnecessary war, it was obvious from the outset that he was doing so.

So this is where we are today. The Cold War is gone. Communism as an ideological threat is gone - if it was ever a serious threat to start with. Russia is a sometimes-ally. Powers that did not used to effect us much like Pakistan, India, China and the ME, are now rising threats. We are still part of the old NATO alliance, but the strongest member is ideologically unstable and economically unreliable. It really is a whole new chapter in world history and we are on the losing side. The root cause is exactly what the old hard-line communists said it would be - greed. Most of the losses have been caused by US Republicans since 1980. Since 1980 the middle class in every western nation has shrunk. Db is absolutely correct when she says that the economic war is being conducted mostly against us. Invented terrorists are being used in a way taught in every Political Science 101 course, to divert domestic attention away from corrupt internal government.
 

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Too true. As a young man in the navy I recall always hearing media reports about countries alleged to be Communist supports who were "puppet" governments. Of course this sounded grossly unfair and manipulative and made me feel anger against the communist leaders - as it was intended to do. By 1978 I had returned to school and started to major in history.

One morning I attended a class in which the professor lectured on the Vietnam War with reference to the many uncomfortable truths exposed by the Pentagon Papers. It was a total surprise. It turned out that most of the truths that had been the foundation of my political and historic beliefs to then had been not only untrue, but deliberate lies and propaganda.

Ho Chi Minh was on the Allied side in WW2 against Japan. He aided the allies in return for a promise of Vietnamese autonomy after the war. The US and Britain agreed. After the war ended the French said no we want our colony back, so America turned the Jap POW’s loose under Allied officers against the Vietnamese. Eventually France tried to run the country as its old colony but failed. That resulted in their military defeat by General Giap at Dien Bien Phu.

The Vietnamese demanded freedom. A north-south split developed in Vietnam in which America, having already sided against Ho Chi Minh in the north, sided with the minority in South Vietnam. A demilitarized zone was set up half way down the country And elections were called to determine wither the government of the north or south would form the central government. It became obvious that the north would win so the US and France cancelled the elections.

The Vietnamese refused to be satisfied with half a country. Even in the south the government could not have won a free election. China was not the driving factor, Vietnamese nationalism was. Eventually America had to giver up and within three years the south fell. Within two years after that Vietnam was at war with China.

The war in Vietnam developed serious strains of anti-Americanism, but that was because America butted in after breaking its WW2 promises. The Vietnam War was primarily a civil war. Every foreigner who became involved from 1945 on was bloodied. The Japs, the French, the Americans and finally the Chinese.

The biggest surprise was not so much that America was proved wrong. The biggest surprise was that so much of what the US claimed as true was lies. There is a huge difference between someone who has been wrong and someone who lies to you. All of a sudden everything they have ever said is open to question, and whenever their interpretation is disagreed with the presumption arises that nothing they say can be trusted. So what happened next? Gradually everything went back to normal. Old lies were forgotten. Then along came Iraq. Dubya not only lied America into a totally immoral and unnecessary war, it was obvious from the outset that he was doing so.

So this is where we are today. The Cold War is gone. Communism as an ideological threat is gone - if it was ever a serious threat to start with. Russia is a sometimes-ally. Powers that did not used to effect us much like Pakistan, India, China and the ME, are now rising threats. We are still part of the old NATO alliance, but the strongest member is ideologically unstable and economically unreliable. It really is a whole new chapter in world history and we are on the losing side. The root cause is exactly what the old hard-line communists said it would be - greed. Most of the losses have been caused by US Republicans since 1980. Since 1980 the middle class in every western nation has shrunk. Db is absolutely correct when she says that the economic war is being conducted mostly against us. Invented terrorists are being used in a way taught in every Political Science 101 course, to divert domestic attention away from corrupt internal government.
You have no credibility - I think that Members replying to use post a similar phrase.
 

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You have no credibility.

That's because you're too stupid to understand. It is an established fact that most media is written at a grade six level. I usually write at a higher level, besides which I am Canadian and therefore better educated than most red state Yanks.
 

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That's because you're too stupid to understand. It is an established fact that most media is written at a grade six level. I usually write at a higher level, besides which I am Canadian and therefore better educated than most red state Yanks.

Wow ANOTHER show of ignorance from the tober troll.. Goober is from Alberta, not a Yank Red State moron .. duh.. I guess geography isn't your strong point.. ;)

As far a Canada's education, you are correct there.. Canada is 5th overall.



World education rankings: which country does best at reading, maths and science? | News | theguardian.com

Sad turn of events about the gunmen.. 1 was a Canadian Citizen and 3 from the United States..
 

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petros

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B00Mer said:
Don't know. Was listening to the Radio when they stated that some of the
gunmen where Canadian and US citizens.

More SSRI CIA mind control victims out to make more victims.
 

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WLDB a few soldiers serving in the military is not nearly enough,
the clergy the citizens in communities must speak out. They must
be prepared to point out the trouble makers as well. Not just in
North America but in the countries where they live. People must
rise up and demand change.
The people of the west have had enough if the people can't deal
with their own issues in their own countries and here at home
people in the west will demand action. People who have a lifestyle
that threatens the future of my grand kids and great grand kids
are not going to be too welcome. What I don't like is people will be
divided and in turmoil this is not good for anyone. Muslims have to
take care of their problem and report their religious criminals
No a few soldiers in the military is not even a blip on the radar screen