Polygamy - Off to the Courts to decide?

earth_as_one

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I agree. Change the law. The current law means they aren't married, so they must be single mothers who are living in shared accommodation and paying rent. Therefore they are entitled to income supplements and tax benefits like all other single mothers. If they aren't working they are entitled to welfare and other support.
 

petros

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I agree. Change the law. The current law means they aren't married, so they must be single mothers who are living in shared accommodation and paying rent. Therefore they are entitled to income supplements and tax benefits like all other single mothers. If they aren't working they are entitled to welfare and other support.
No No No welfare pays their mortgage and utilities while they get the CTC to top it all off. They get credit no problem from the LDS financial empire which is the biggest west of the Mississippi
 

earth_as_one

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Define CTC?

Canadian Tourism Commission? Canadian Tire Corporation? Chinese Triad Community? Chatahoochee Technical College? Counter Terrorism Committee? Calcutta Tramways Company?
 

petros

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Child Tax Credit. Provinces have pushed the welfare support of women with kids onto the backs of the Feds. The Province that breeds the most gets the most.
 

earth_as_one

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These families tend to have a lot of children who tend to do extremely well in elementary school although few graduate grade 12:

VANCOUVER—A school in the polygamous community of Bountiful, B.C., has received top marks in the Fraser Institute’s controversial education ratings, despite numerous concerns raised in a high-profile court case examining Canada’s polygamy laws.
But a Fraser Institute spokesman readily admits the rankings don’t give the whole picture of any school, a point the provincial teachers’ union has been arguing for years.


Bountiful Elementary-Secondary School is one of two schools in the fundamentalist Mormon community in southeastern B.C., and both have faced scrutiny at constitutional hearings into the criminal prohibition of multiple marriage.


The case has heard the community’s already low enrolment numbers have been declining, especially in higher grades, and few students make it to high school or finish Grade 12.

Bountiful Elementary-Secondary School in particular isn’t certified to issue official high school diplomas because of concerns about its curriculum, and the other school, Mormon Hills, was only certified for the first time this year.

But the annual B.C. elementary school ratings from the Fraser Institute, released by the right-wing think tank on Monday, give Bountiful Elementary-Secondary a perfect score of 10/10 — placing it in a list of the province’s No. 1-rated schools.

The rankings are based on scores from standardized tests for Grades 4 and 7, which themselves have faced renewed criticism in recent weeks.
Polygamous school gets top marks in Fraser Institute ratings - thestar.com

They obviously learn reading, writing and arithmetic at a young age.

"few students make it to high school or finish Grade 12." indicates a possible problem. They'd have to be judged against other small rural communities...
 

earth_as_one

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What are their post secondary skills?
Not much apparently:

The data also showed that since 1991, only 13 students who have attended Bountiful Elementary Secondary School have ever obtained an official high school diploma. Critics say students aren’t encouraged to finish high school, and women have testified that they are told to marry before they go to college.
A trip to Bountiful - thestar.com

I have a problem with religion when it interferes in the aspirations of children and young people to achieve higher learning... as appears to be the case in Bountiful.

My main problems with this community are child brides and religious interference in the education system. The criminal justice system and the ministry of education don't need a bigamy law to deal with these problems. I support applying the same laws to resolve these problems as would be applied to monogamous communities that have these problems. Splitting up families and imposing someone else's sense of morality on these people would create additional problems.

Adults should be free to choose how they want to live without government interference. Canada's bigamy law is unconstitutional.
 
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Colpy

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Marrying off 12 and 13 year old children is illegal. Statutory rape is illegal. These people should be charged with one of those crimes.

I am against bigamy laws which interfere with adults seeking fulfilling relationships on their own terms, like these people:
Flirtation, love, romance and polyamory | Radio Netherlands Worldwide

Look, as far as I'm concerned you can play slap and tickle with your cocker spaniel, I don't give a ****.

just don't call it marriage, don't expect me to "respect" you for it, and sure as hell don't expect gov't recognition and support for it.
 

Trotz

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I will wait until the B.C. court imposes these rulings on the Sikh and Muslim community in Surrey; until then, it will just be a rule for Mormons in the interior and no one else.