Parks Canada staff banned from criticizing Feds

captain morgan

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So why can't they speak about cuts?

Passing judgement on the cuts is the way that I interpreted the comment in the OP.

If those comments are inaccurate or inflammatory (inaccurate and/or causing material harm as the lawyers would put it), it is an actionable event.

Let's face facts here; people are exposed to that same risk if they were to make speculative (inaccurate, etc) comments about their neighbour. I do not see why that should not apply to gvt
 

earth_as_one

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People should expect ramifications when taking a run at your employer, this circumstance isn't anything new in the world.
All Canadian citizens should be able to criticize the Canadian government... even if they are employees. Under the Conservatives, Canada and becoming less and less like a democracy and more and more like an absolute dictatorship. The Conservatives have no interest in dialogue or openness. The Conservatives are about absolute power and secrecy. This ban is yet another brick in the wall...
 

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In my opinion, this is not entirely egregious as the majority of those employees will not have the full information on the logic behind the actions that are being taken.

Ummh- If I was an employer and had to lay employees off for financial reasons before I did anything I would hope I had the decency to first make sure they were fully informed and even throw solutions into their court first. While I don't believe anyone is owed a job I do believe they are owed full information pertaining to their job.
 

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Passing judgement on the cuts is the way that I interpreted the comment in the OP.

If those comments are inaccurate or inflammatory (inaccurate and/or causing material harm as the lawyers would put it), it is an actionable event.

Which means you agree with me.

The comments must be said first, determined to be inflammatory and then action must be taken.

You cannot ban the comments from being said in the first place on the assumption that they will be inflammatory.

 

captain morgan

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All Canadian citizens should be able to criticize the Canadian government.

They do every day, in fact, one might argue that CC is an excellent example of a sounding board that allows for such.

The Conservatives are about absolute power and secrecy. This ban is yet another brick in the wall...

... And the award for best dramatic performance in the role as victim goes too...

Ummh- If I was an employer and had to lay employees off for financial reasons before I did anything I would hope I had the decency to first make sure they were fully informed and even throw solutions into their court first. While I don't believe anyone is owed a job I do believe they are owed full information pertaining to their job.

I agree.

Do we know if the gvt did (or didn't) do any of those things prior to the cuts?

Which means you agree with me.

The comments must be said first, determined to be inflammatory and then action must be taken.

You cannot ban the comments from being said in the first place on the assumption that they will be inflammatory.

So, you'd feel better and that democracy is best served if the gvt launches a raft of slander/libel suits against employees over this issue?

In the end, I suppose that the legal costs would be greatly offset by the gvt's ability to fire the employees using 'just cause' as their reason.
 

JLM

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I doubt McDonalds allows employees to bad mouth McDonalds while at work or not at work.

Probably, bad mouthing an employer to customers is not a good idea! :lol: I doubt if it would benefit either the employee or the employer.
 

petros

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Mmmmm harp seal. Good eatin'!

Probably, bad mouthing an employer to customers is not a good idea! :lol: I doubt if it would benefit either the employee or the employer.
It doesn't matter what business or service, I don't want to hear bitchy whiners nor do I trust someone who is bitchy to do a good job giving me the high standards I expect as a customer.
 

JLM

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Mmmmm harp seal. Good eatin'!

It doesn't matter what business or service, I don't want to hear bitchy whiners nor do I trust someone who is bitchy to do a good job giving me the high standards I expect as a customer.

Exactly, THAT was one of the most frustrating things I found during my service, with the Gov't and belonging to an arrogant union. The incessant whining about F.A. :lol::lol:

High standards from Macdonalds? How's YOUR grip on reality?

Well, to give the Devil his due, the fries are a fairly high standard, just need to reduce the salt by a pound or two per serving. :lol:
 

Kakato

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Perhaps it would be wise though to wait until they have another job lined up! :smile:
No kidding,I know a guy that posts about his employers on FB all the time and it's not good stuff,he cant figure out why he's blackballed in an entire industry for thousands of miles and only lasts about 3 weeks at any job,just steady bitching and crying.
 

JLM

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Hey, I'll admit those immigrants bust their asses but if the pickles aren't perfectly centred on my $1.39 McDouble, I get pissed.

All I can say is it's a damn good thing for them they are not involved with Head cheese! :lol:

No kidding,I know a guy that posts about his employers on FB all the time and it's not good stuff,he cant figure out why he's blackballed in an entire industry for thousands of miles and only lasts about 3 weeks at any job,just steady bitching and crying.

Yeah, I used to have a couple of idiots like that "working"!!!!!!!!!!!! with me. (Had to keep them lined up with a stump to see if they moved) :lol: