Palin in 2012

SirJosephPorter

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Murtha bought his political seat and kept it with favors, not to mention the jobs he brought to his area and state.

Quite so, ironsides. He was an old fashioned politician who believed in patronage, in earmarks. He believed in bringing home the bacon, for his constituents. And it worked for him.

That is why he kept getting elected. The surprise was that the seat remained in democratic hands after he was gone. I did not follow that election, so I don't know exactly what the Democrat did right and what the Republican did wrong. However, Republicans managed to lose a socially conservative district, one they were very confident of winning.

You don't see them picking on anyone else do you? She is doing her job.

No they don't. There are some politicians who are easily susceptible to humour, to ridicule. Palin is one of them. Indeed, that may be her problem, she may be turning into another Dan Quayle.
 

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That is why he kept getting elected. The surprise was that the seat remained in democratic hands after he was gone. I did not follow that election, so I don't know exactly what the Democrat did right and what the Republican did wrong. However, Republicans managed to lose a socially conservative district, one they were very confident of winning.



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It is a liberal/Democratic area, that happens to be itself surrounded by a conservative/Republican area. I'm not sure how it that worked out, but it did.
 

SirJosephPorter

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It is a liberal/Democratic area, that happens to be itself surrounded by a conservative/Republican area. I'm not sure how it that worked out, but it did.

I remember reading that it is a socially conservative district, and that Republicans had high hopes of winning the seat.

The Associated Press: Dems win special Pa. election, retain Murtha seat

I read a bit about the district, ironsides. It appears Democrats outnumber Republicans in registration, 2 to 1. However, it is a blue collar socially conservative district. McCain won the district in 2008 election. The Democratic candidate stressed his pro life, pro gun position.

So notwithstanding the Democratic advantage in registration, it is very much a socially conservative district, just the type of district Republicans must win if they hope to do well in November.

Incidentally Republican candidate was a Tea Party supporter.
 

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It's not early at all. Palin has already started and Taitz should join her soon.

"Liberals are afraid of Sarah Palin"

LOL! Then why are they begging to have her run in 2012????

"The surprise was that the seat remained in democratic hands after he was gone. I did not follow that election, so I don't know exactly what the Democrat did right and what the Republican did wrong."

Contrary to YukonJack's beliefs or wishes, the Dems won because that district (while largely conservative) is a union district.
 

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With so many posts about Palin's candidacy for President in 2012, I am curious as to what it is that makes so many people consider her to have credentials qualitying her for president above anyone else. Anyone have answers? Yukon Jack?
 

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"what it is that makes so many people consider her to have credentials qualitying her for president above anyone else. "

Dems want her to run precisely because she has NONE!
 

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"what it is that makes so many people consider her to have credentials qualitying her for president above anyone else. "

Dems want her to run precisely because she has NONE!

Know what? They could just be on to something. :smile:
 

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JLM wondered:

"With so many posts about Palin's candidacy for President in 2012, I am curious as to what it is that makes so many people consider her to have credentials qualitying her for president above anyone else. Anyone have answers? Yukon Jack?"

What made so many people think that Obama had any qualifications and credentials?

I have yet to see a list explaning what Obama accomplished that qualified him for the presidency. Was he a duly elected mayor? A duly elected Governor of a state? Did he ever have to meet a payroll? Any other executive experience?

I guess for the worshippers of Obama having been a community organizer, promising hope and change, voting gutless "present" as a state senator 130+ times, one rousing speech and reading someone else's words from a teleprompter is all that is needed.
 

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I have yet to see a list explaning what Obama accomplished that qualified him for the presidency.

It's a short list: he won the election.

If Palin wins the next election, she'll be qualified, too.

The bar is set quite low for President of the US: born in the right place, really good connections.
 

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It's a short list: he won the election.

If Palin wins the next election, she'll be qualified, too.

The bar is set quite low for President of the US: born in the right place, really good connections.
You forgot: groomed by the ruling elite to do their bidding. They created a climate that made having a black president would inspire the great unwashed. The media delivered the propaganda and the masses bought it. Sarah Palin was ridiculed in the press by design. She is being well paid to be the brunt of jokes. There is no way the ruling elite would let her even take the candidacy because that is not what she was groomed for. Her sole purpose was to make Obama look good and he has served his puppet role very well.
 

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Y.J. My question wasn't about Obama. What qualifies Palin? TenPenny gave you a fairly accurate answer about Obama.
 

YukonJack

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"Y.J. My question wasn't about Obama. What qualifies Palin? TenPenny gave you a fairly accurate answer about Obama."

JLM, TenPenny's "answer" was like saying that the Blackhawks qualified for playoffs, becuase they won the Stanley Cup.

You obviously did not read my answer to you, at least, not very carefully. I listed some of Palin's qualifications which are far more impressive than Obama's.
 

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YukonJack;1288926 JLM said:
Slight teeny weeny eensy difference- Stanley Cup winner didn't depend on votes. Otherwise it was the same thing- Chicago beat all the opponents, Obama beat all the opponents. Does being state Gov. qualify someone to be Pres? Especially if they abandon the position of state Gov.? Anyway I think Obama is a good president (so far). :smile:
 

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So, then what you are saying is that Obama is just as Dumb as Sarah Palin? Or that Sarah Palin is just as brilliant as The Saviour of the world?
I'm saying YOUR intelligence and trust is being played like a cheap fiddle.

How does it feel?
 
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TenPenny

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"Y.J. My question wasn't about Obama. What qualifies Palin? TenPenny gave you a fairly accurate answer about Obama."

JLM, TenPenny's "answer" was like saying that the Blackhawks qualified for playoffs, becuase they won the Stanley Cup.

Not really. You didn't ask what made Obama qualified to be a good candidate for President.
You asked what made him qualified to be President.
 

YukonJack

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"Not really. You didn't ask what made Obama qualified to be a good candidate for President.
You asked what made him qualified to be President."

If one is not qualified to be president, how can one qualify as a candidate?

"Does being state Gov. qualify someone to be Pres?"

More so than community organizer. Or one speech. And Obama abandoned his post as state senator AND as a U.S. Senator.

And the prize for hair-splitting, semantics and total lack of providing a valid answer is shared by JLM and TenPenny!!
 

SirJosephPorter

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It's not early at all. Palin has already started and Taitz should join her soon.

"Liberals are afraid of Sarah Palin"

LOL! Then why are they begging to have her run in 2012????

"The surprise was that the seat remained in democratic hands after he was gone. I did not follow that election, so I don't know exactly what the Democrat did right and what the Republican did wrong."

Contrary to YukonJack's beliefs or wishes, the Dems won because that district (while largely conservative) is a union district.

That may be so. But it is just the type of district that Republicans must win, if they hope to do well in November. McCain won it in 2008.

JLM wondered:

"With so many posts about Palin's candidacy for President in 2012, I am curious as to what it is that makes so many people consider her to have credentials qualitying her for president above anyone else. Anyone have answers? Yukon Jack?"

What made so many people think that Obama had any qualifications and credentials?

I have yet to see a list explaning what Obama accomplished that qualified him for the presidency. Was he a duly elected mayor? A duly elected Governor of a state? Did he ever have to meet a payroll? Any other executive experience?

There is no need for any list, YJ. What qualified him to be the president is that American people elected him. The job of president, requires no official qualifications. The only qualification is that people elect him to be the president.

"Y.J. My question wasn't about Obama. What qualifies Palin? TenPenny gave you a fairly accurate answer about Obama."

JLM, TenPenny's "answer" was like saying that the Blackhawks qualified for playoffs, becuase they won the Stanley Cup.

You obviously did not read my answer to you, at least, not very carefully. I listed some of Palin's qualifications which are far more impressive than Obama's.

Those qualifications do not qualify her to be the president, YJ. As TenPenny said (and I posted my post without reading his), the sole qualification (other than the trivial ones, he/she much be 35 years old, citizen of USA, born in USA etc.) to become a president is that people must elect you.