Palestinian "Unilateral Declaration of Independence"
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Palestinians have nothing to loose by seeking UN recognition. They've already got the 2/3 majority support they need at the UN general assembly to get Enhanced UN Observer Status. They will force the US to veto their demand for freedom and justice.
Hundreds of thousands of stateless refugees (millions actually) aren't represented by international institutions now. If the UN recognizes the Palestinian state, then Palestinians will determine who has Palestinian citizenship. With enhanced UN observer status recognition at the UN General Assembly, Palestinians will be able to represent themselves at international institutions like the International Court of Justice, establish official diplomatic relations with other nations and so on...
Regarding the legitimacy of the Palestinian government, Hamas won a majority over Fatah in the last Palestinian election. Dictator Abbas of Fatah (the PLO) lost his mandate to lead Palestinians in that election. He was supposed to transfer power to Hamas as per the Palestinian constitution,. Instead Abbas ignored election results and blocked Hamas from fulfilling their election mandate to lead Palestinians. Thanks to arms from the US and Israel, Abbas was able to remain in control of the West Bank. In Gaza, Hamas intercepted Israeli and American arms shipments to Fatah and used those weapons to seize control of Gaza.
The Gaza Bombshell | Politics | Vanity Fair
The only losers here are Israel, the US and other countries like Canada that support the continued injustice and oppression suffered by Palestinians. Israel's ongoing cruelty against the Palestinian people is on display for the entire world to see. The US and Canada have exposed themselves as hypocrites for stating that everyone has a right to freedom and justice.... with the sole exception of Palestinians.
Hundreds of thousands of stateless refugees (millions actually) aren't represented by international institutions now. If the UN recognizes the Palestinian state, then Palestinians will determine who has Palestinian citizenship. With enhanced UN observer status recognition at the UN General Assembly, Palestinians will be able to represent themselves at international institutions like the International Court of Justice, establish official diplomatic relations with other nations and so on...
Regarding the legitimacy of the Palestinian government, Hamas won a majority over Fatah in the last Palestinian election. Dictator Abbas of Fatah (the PLO) lost his mandate to lead Palestinians in that election. He was supposed to transfer power to Hamas as per the Palestinian constitution,. Instead Abbas ignored election results and blocked Hamas from fulfilling their election mandate to lead Palestinians. Thanks to arms from the US and Israel, Abbas was able to remain in control of the West Bank. In Gaza, Hamas intercepted Israeli and American arms shipments to Fatah and used those weapons to seize control of Gaza.
The Gaza Bombshell | Politics | Vanity Fair
The only losers here are Israel, the US and other countries like Canada that support the continued injustice and oppression suffered by Palestinians. Israel's ongoing cruelty against the Palestinian people is on display for the entire world to see. The US and Canada have exposed themselves as hypocrites for stating that everyone has a right to freedom and justice.... with the sole exception of Palestinians.
You would be the resident expert here, for spreading demonizing propaganda, for the purposes of promoting hate and fear.
That's about all you post here.
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Well I believe that you have the freedom of thought. But that does not mean you make any sense with your thoughts. Thought I might mention that as I thought it was the right thought and thoughtful as well on my part I thought, but that is just a thought. Do you have any thoughts on what I thought?
Who cares???
No one.
Your obsession is becoming offensive once again: you realize of course, that Syria has murdered more innocent Arabs in the past 6 months than Israel has killed in the past 20 years?
Oh sorry, you don't give a crap.
Or that your heroes in China have executed more people in the last year that have died in clashes with Israel since 1974???
Oh sorry, you don't give a crap.
How about that Israel is the ONLY self-made democracy with minority rights in the ME??
Oh, sorry, you don't give a crap.
You would be the resident expert here for insults, name calling and taunts. That's about all you post here.
Do you actually have anything on topic to add, or was your post just a lame attempt to troll?
If you recall I posted the very first thread regarding Syria's uprising. I have followed events in Syria closely. The Canadian government in this case has sided with freedom and justice against oppression and injustice. I have little complaints about Canada's policies regarding Syria. I'd post more on that subject if the Canadian government unshakably supported the Syrian government's oppression and injustice, the same way the Canadian government support's the Israeli government's oppression and injustice.
For contemptable Jew hating spammers.
To you and anyone like you.
What's to add? You won't hear anything other than "Israel is bad".
You continuously ignore questions, you know the answer to will force you to admit you're wrong.
You continuously anything that you can't refute.
You dismiss material because of the source, without ever actually refuting the material.
You've made it quite clear that anyone that doesn't believe Israel is as you think they are, is an apologist.
Proving unequivocally, you are NOT here to discuss.
So I ask again, What's to add?
The day you stop trying to demonize Israel, stop dismissing things you can't refute, admit when you're wrong.
Is the day I stop treating you like the thing that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats snail sh!t.
Yup......and you join the list of some infamous ones like.....
1. Max Blumenthal
2. Moishe Ayre Friedman
3. Ian Lustick
4. Richard Goldstone
5. Gideon Levy
6. Roseanne Barr
7. Mike Wallace
8. Andrea Dworkin
9. Noam Chomsky
10. Karl Marx
11. Vladimir Zhirinovsky
12. Bobby Fischer
13. George Soros
The U.N. while having been created with the best of intentions has been subject to manipulation for many years now and this is just one more of those examples that bring to question it's continued relevance since adopting a policy of inclusion to all those it was origionally created to protect against.
****-can the whole U.N. org. and let the mid-east revert to tribal warfare driven by ancient religious zealotry and stand back to observe the outcome. My opinion only but in that particular scenario the very word Palestine would cease to exist through their own Arab brethren finally being able to practice the genocide they had already been using for centuries against the so called palestinians. they were relegated to a wasteland for a reason.
Another prediction would be the Isrealites would have the chains of restraint removed and the region would have no more worries of Hamas or Fatah lobbing stones, rockets, shoes or anything else at anyone because the Arab nations and their current borders would ALL be changed dramaticly to reflect the new Israel's vastly larger country. They would be too busy scavenging to find enough camel dung to heat their hovels with to waste time shaking their fists at Israel.
Iran would be reduced to a smoking hole in the ground with residual radioactivity making that retarded cesspool uninhabitable for the next 100 years or so.
The whole region has been nothing but a boil on a pig's ass for so long we've all become inured at the reasons for the problem being one of religious and cultural idiocy spanning centuries. There isn't one of them that can get along with the other and it ain't gonna change with statehood for Palestine, the Arabs themselves will ignore them again.
I say let them go at it and who gives a rat's patoot what the totally disfuntional U.N. has to say about Palestinian statehood.
****-can the whole U.N. org. and let the mid-east revert to tribal warfare driven by ancient religious zealotry and stand back to observe the outcome. My opinion only but in that particular scenario the very word Palestine would cease to exist through their own Arab brethren finally being able to practice the genocide they had already been using for centuries against the so called palestinians. they were relegated to a wasteland for a reason.
Another prediction would be the Isrealites would have the chains of restraint removed and the region would have no more worries of Hamas or Fatah lobbing stones, rockets, shoes or anything else at anyone because the Arab nations and their current borders would ALL be changed dramaticly to reflect the new Israel's vastly larger country. They would be too busy scavenging to find enough camel dung to heat their hovels with to waste time shaking their fists at Israel.
Iran would be reduced to a smoking hole in the ground with residual radioactivity making that retarded cesspool uninhabitable for the next 100 years or so.
The whole region has been nothing but a boil on a pig's ass for so long we've all become inured at the reasons for the problem being one of religious and cultural idiocy spanning centuries. There isn't one of them that can get along with the other and it ain't gonna change with statehood for Palestine, the Arabs themselves will ignore them again.
I say let them go at it and who gives a rat's patoot what the totally disfuntional U.N. has to say about Palestinian statehood.
When did Palestinians get that? They haven't had any dignity for 60+ years. Can they be proud of their nationless refugee status rather than being citizens of a country like you and I? Can they be proud of having to live on a limited amount of international food and medical rations, based on the occupying country's mood?
Can they be proud of wanting to commit genocide - can they - Can they be proud when they celebrate children having their throats cut, or in one case a baby shot thru the head when the terrorist was cornered on the beach.
More irrational fear and hate mongering...
Meanwhile:
23 Sep 2011
Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas has handed over a historic request to UN chief Ban Ki-moon asking the United Nations to admit the state of Palestine as a full member.
The Palestinian leader won huge applause and a standing ovation on Friday from some of the assembly as he entered the hall before beginning his speech.
Palestinians across the West Bank have set in motion plans to celebrate the formal submission of their bid to become a United Nations member state, despite opposition from the United States and Israel.
In city centres, giant television screens were set up so residents could watch Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, deliver a historic address to the 193 member states of the UN General Assembly.
"Today the Palestinian president will ask that Resolution 181 be applied to the Palestinian state as well,"....
Abbas submits Palestine statehood bid to UN - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
Meanwhile:
23 Sep 2011
Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas has handed over a historic request to UN chief Ban Ki-moon asking the United Nations to admit the state of Palestine as a full member.
The Palestinian leader won huge applause and a standing ovation on Friday from some of the assembly as he entered the hall before beginning his speech.
Palestinians across the West Bank have set in motion plans to celebrate the formal submission of their bid to become a United Nations member state, despite opposition from the United States and Israel.
In city centres, giant television screens were set up so residents could watch Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, deliver a historic address to the 193 member states of the UN General Assembly.
"Today the Palestinian president will ask that Resolution 181 be applied to the Palestinian state as well,"....
Abbas submits Palestine statehood bid to UN - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
