Palestinian "Unilateral Declaration of Independence"

BruSan

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EAO; you must have me confused with someone that has indicated they'll debate this topic with you. I will say again that I made myself undeniably and perfectly clear with my first post. Yep, I'm biased and will remain so. Nope, don't give a rat's patoot about what the Amnesty International, The Arab League for the Betterment of Goat Herders or MADD have to say on THIS issue. Yep, I'm fixed in my position and Yep, I'd be the one with the baseball bat beating on any member of Hamas, Hezbolla or other Palestinian organization that preaches the bullcrap to their young that all Jews are a scourge on the earth while bombing busloads of innocent civilians etc., etc., and no I do not equate those retaliatory measure taken by Israel on the same scale.

Now are you satisfied that Im a racist bigot? If not what additional help can I provide to delude you of any political correctness you might think me guilty of. I do not want to be a member of that club and further don't give a flying fig for what you might think of me.

Summation: Jews have been and continue to be persecuted by everyone who needs a scapegoat and your surmisal they do not face extinction today simply highlights your ignorance of exactly why Iran is busily going about building nuclear weapons.

Palestinians were treated just as the Roma have been in Europe, ostracized and used as bargaining chips by there own people. They have not been persecuted by the Israelites, they've been kept at arms length as much as is possible given the confines of the real-estate.

An apologist for Israel I'm certainly not as I believe no apology is necessary if you take that aforementioned baseball bat to the heads of people trying to wipe you off the face of the planet. Nope, not deflection when I point out that were palestinians to devote half as much energy into co-existing peacefully with Jews as they do in throwing rocks, bombs or anything else they can get their hands on at them we wouldn't even be having this exchange today.

I'm a staunch defender of the jews in both thier right to exist and to defend themselves against the very same sort of terroist attacks that every other country that has endured them is suspending personal liberties over at this time.

Please ask yourself a question that I've never heard posed before, given the worlds seemingly tepid response to the avowed determination of the Arab countries eradicating Israel and all jews, what if a third party were to propose eradicating the world of all Arabs? Which eradication premise would leave the word a better, more humane, democratic, peaceful place in which to live? Ooops!
 

petros

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You're better off than most having that allergy considering your not a calf trying to put on 500kg in a year....and it baffles people why they are fat and have diabetes.
 

earth_as_one

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Arab Christians? The ones living in refugee camps?

Not all Arabs are Muslim. Some are Christian and Jewish. A small number of Palestinian refugees are Christian.

* Israel says it has 154,000 Christian citizens, making up 2.1 percent of the Jewish state's population of 7.4 million. An estimated 50,000 Christians live among 3.9 million Muslims in the Palestinian territories, most in the West Bank, notably in Bethlehem, and East Jerusalem. Some 3,000 are in the Gaza Strip.
* About 80 percent of Christians living in Israel are Arabs. Some 44,000 of those are Roman Catholic while the others belong to the Greek Orthodox or other churches.
* The remainder of Israel's Christians are mostly migrants from former Soviet states who came with Jewish spouses and other family members during a wave of immigration in the 1990s.
* Some 17,000 Palestinian Catholics live in the West Bank. Most of the West Bank's remaining 33,000 Christians follow the Greek Orthodox church and other eastern denominations.
FACTBOX - Christians in Israel, West Bank and Gaza | Reuters


The above includes this statement:
The Palestinian Authority says the Christian population in the West Bank has shrunk over the last three decades due to emigration, many to Australia, Canada and the United States, but lacks accurate figures. The rise of Islam is cited by some among reasons for disquiet. But few Christians give that as a reason for emigration. Most say they leave for better living standards.


Yeah right... They are unsure of how many left but claim "most" say they leave for better living standards. I'd like to see the scientific method leading to that conclusion. Did they do surveys? Did the survey choices for leaving include "to escape oppression and injustice" or was "better living standards" just the closest choice?


I discovered that all Palestinian Christians in Lebanon got Lebanese citizenship in 2006.
Palestinian refugee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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DurkaDurka

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Boring, blah blah blah. I live in Canada where we don't blow people up (excusing the french), I have a job, shelter and democracy (kinda). That's life, not this facked up BS that occurs in the ME on a daily basis.

Let them kill each other for all I care.
 

earth_as_one

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Not ever going to happen, at least to the 1967 map.
I agree. The point is to reveal to the world that Israel and the US are the main obstacles to Palestinian freedom and justice.

Notice how the US praised Arabs overthrowing oppression and injustice everywhere except Palestinians. Instead they tell Palestinians to negotiate peace. Sometimes Palestinian negotiators have to negotiate against just the US and Israel... at other times Palestinian negotiators have to negotiate peace against Israel, the US, France, Germany and the UK.

Either way, Palestinian negotiators have about as much chance of getting fair treatment as the unarmed Palestinian shepherds (about to be beaten) who faced these Israeli settlers (the thugs with the baseball bats):

Visual: Settlers attack Palestinian Shepherds - YouTube
WARNING: GRAPHIC VIOLENCE
On 8 June ‘08, two settlers tried unsuccessfully to drive shepherds off Palestinian land near Khirbet Susiya. After they left, the shepherds called relatives for reinforcement, fearing an attack. Among those who came was Muna a-Nawaj’ah, with a video camera she received from B'Tselem. Ten minutes later, she filmed four masked men armed with clubs approaching the family and attacking one of the shepherds. They then severely beat other members of the family.

Boring, blah blah blah. I live in Canada where we don't blow people up (excusing the french), I have a job, shelter and democracy (kinda). That's life, not this facked up BS that occurs in the ME on a daily basis.

Let them kill each other for all I care.

You must disagree with our Canadian Prime Minister who unshakably supports the status quo in this dispute. The world will judge which nations side with freedom and justice and which side with oppression and injustice.

Which way do you think Canada will vote?
How will this affect our international relations?
 
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DurkaDurka

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You must disagree with our Canadian Prime Minister who unshakably supports the status quo in this dispute. The world will judge which nations side with freedom and justice and which side with oppression and injustice.

Which way do you think Canada will vote?
How will this affect our international relations?

I honestly don't care what they do to each other, it's an endless circle of violence and religious hatred there, we have no power to affect anything.

As far as I'm concerned, I could care less what the UN thinks, it's a corrupt organization to begin with.