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JLM

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With regard to this "climate change", I think a smart person would be prepared for any eventuality, while being VERY leery of anyone trying to capitalize on it. Nobody in the world KNOWS what is going to happen beyond a 72 hour weather forecast!
 

taxslave

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With regard to this "climate change", I think a smart person would be prepared for any eventuality, while being VERY leery of anyone trying to capitalize on it. Nobody in the world KNOWS what is going to happen beyond a 72 hour weather forecast!

So far the 72 hr forecast has not been all that accurate either. And we paid for that.
 

JLM

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So far the 72 hr forecast has not been all that accurate either. And we paid for that.


In the Okanagan, where the weather is generally fairly stable, I'd give them credit for being 90% accurate on 72 hour forecasts, but that is a far cry from KNOWING what's going to happen in the future. There's just too many factors at play.
 

waldo

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No, in the past they have said far worse, and it hasn't come true. What they were saying in the 70's is that we wouldn't be alive now unless we did some drastic changes. Changes that we didn't do. It's the same mantra they are crooning now, that they have crooned in the past.

absolute crap! There was no mainstream position in the 70s as you continue to claim. There have been studies done, meta studies, that have actually looked at all the related scientific publications of the period... and cataloged papers that took your claimed position, papers that were neutral and papers that predicted warming. Those studies show, overwhelmingly, that the vast majority of published papers did not align with your continued BS claim... the vast majority of published papers aligned with predictive warming.

since you keep trotting this nugget out, why not try supporting it... for a change!
 

Locutus

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I haven't seen so much angst since those 3 spam threads were left on the board for a few hours whilst I slept soundly, dreaming of sarah palin and Cool Hhwip.. :lol:
 

DaSleeper

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I haven't seen so much angst since those 3 spam threads were left on the board for a few hours whilst I slept soundly, dreaming of sarah palin and Cool Hhwip.. :lol:
Maybe these threads should be merged, you know, to save waldo the trouble of digging them up everyday......they all follow the same theme anyway..... and while you're at it lock down all the necros on globul warming older than let's say....6 months or so

Tall order, I know, but just in case some turkey (like moi) decides to pop them up some day when he gets totally fed up with waldo and covers the front page with them with a drumming waldo wabbit at the end of every single one of them
I realize that it would be spamming, but so is what waldo is doing bringing up those bloody thread every time he comes on.

I thank you for your patience!
 

Walter

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how many times do you need to be reminded that Antarctic sea-ice regularly, year-to-year, essentially melts in its complete entirety.
You keep mentioning this falsehood. The sea-ice nadir is about 2 to 3 million square kilometers during March. If 2 million is close to zero please forgive my error.
 
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captain morgan

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So, like most of the deniers here, you deny climate change because you hate paying taxes. Yup.

And yes, we are all going to die. Life is the leading cause of death. :lol:

It really bothers you when people refer to the 'man-made' GW component... I notice that you are very methodical in shying away from that important little component

You keep mentioning this falsehood. The sea-ice nadir is about 2 to 3 million square kilometers during March. If 2 million is close to zero please forgive my error.

What's plus or minus half a dozen decimal points between friends.
 

Zipperfish

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Just you wait gerryh. It's going to get hot again like the 80's and 90's. You just have to believe.

It already is hot, Petros. Hot is the new normal. And it will continue to get hotter--averaged globally over the long-term--as the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere increases.

With regard to this "climate change", I think a smart person would be prepared for any eventuality, while being VERY leery of anyone trying to capitalize on it. Nobody in the world KNOWS what is going to happen beyond a 72 hour weather forecast!

Yeah, how about you put your money where your mouth is.

$100 sez that the average temperature in North America in July of 2015 will be warmer than the average temperarture in North America in January 2015. That's more than 72 hours.

It really bothers you when people refer to the 'man-made' GW component... I notice that you are very methodical in shying away from that important little component

I try to be very methodical in all my answers actually--thanks for noticing. :lol:

It would be easier to unplug waldo.

Why?
 

petros

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It already is hot, Petros. Hot is the new normal. And it will continue to get hotter--averaged globally over the long-term--as the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere increases.



Yeah, how about you put your money where your mouth is.

$100 sez that the average temperature in North America in July of 2015 will be warmer than the average temperarture in North America in January 2015. That's more than 72 hours.



I try to be very methodical in all my answers actually--thanks for noticing. :lol:

Wow, .3C above the coldest point in 10,000 years is just blazing. Was it supposed to stay at the coldest point of the Holocene? Yes or no?
 

MHz

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This map might freeze into place.

 

Zipperfish

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Wow, .3C above the coldest point in 10,000 years is just blazing. Was it supposed to stay at the coldest point of the Holocene? Yes or no?

It's about half a degree or so warmer than it otherwise would be due to reflected infrared radiation from the additional anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere.
 

petros

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Nooooo it's 0.32C not "about" O.5C and was it supposed to stay at the coldest point of the Holocene?

Yes or no?

Since 1850 we've risen 0.001939C per year...from the lowest point in well over 10,000 years.

OMG OMG OMG?
 

Zipperfish

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You gotta some real proof of this or should we expect the same ole theories and failed models to back it up?

The Greenhouse Effect isn't a failed model. The fact that CO2 absorbs and emits in the infrared spectrum isn't a failed model either. That's pretty basic physics right there.

We have direct evidence that the temperature has increased around 0.6 K in the last 150 years or so. Which is, give or take, pretty close to what you'd expect from a radiation physics perspective, given the increase in atmosphereic CO2.
 

captain morgan

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The Greenhouse Effect isn't a failed model. The fact that CO2 absorbs and emits in the infrared spectrum isn't a failed model either. That's pretty basic physics right there.

We have direct evidence that the temperature has increased around 0.6 K in the last 150 years or so. Which is, give or take, pretty close to what you'd expect from a radiation physics perspective, given the increase in atmosphereic CO2.

It's the anthropogenic component that I am interested in seeing the tangible proof.

Ultimately, the only place it exists is in the theories and failed models.

... But I'm willing to giv eyou the benefit of doubt on this.... Got some proof?