Osama bin Laden is dead.
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Point taken. CB is correct. My last comment was disrespectful and I'd erase that last comment but its locked in now. . I'm sorry daSleeper and Ironsides.
All I would surmise from all this is that some Pakistani government/military leaders knew OBL was there, and for the past 8 or so months so did we.
No doubt! Nice kick-back but huge risk....
Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place.
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They lynched Sadaam too quick also. The US didn't want the stories that Sadaam's friend Ronald Reagan kept mum on his knowing of the Kurd atrocities even decades before. The news made it look like the US just found out about it.
A sure sign of corruption is when the defendant is never allowed to go to trial.
What a farce.
You got that right. Apparently they had that option. Why is it that all the US's bad guys never get a fair trial.? I would have liked to hear his case in an international tribunal. I do know of one truth Osama made concerning US financial corruption. I've been waiting for two years now for the courts to force payment on stocks that came through. Looks like the US loves the interest it accumulates.
They lynched Sadaam too quick also. The US didn't want the stories that Sadaam's friend Ronald Reagan kept mum on his knowing of the Kurd atrocities even decades before. The news made it look like the US just found out about it.
A sure sign of corruption is when the defendant is never allowed to go to trial.
What a farce.
Pakistan as a country has never been a reliable ally. If OBL had gotten away this time and the world found out President Obama would defiantly be looking at a one term presidency.
I'm not sure only SOME knew he was there.
An interesting note is that the highest immigration to Canada is from Pakistan.
Many of those coming here are obviously retired military leaders. It has also been said by Terek Fatah that many of these military leaders have their wives and children live here.
Does Canada have a terrorist sleeper cell problem ??
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If Osama was brought in alive:
He would be no more of an intelligence asset than are his computers.....which they did bring in alive.
Every idiot Islamist on the face of the earth would be looking for a group of hostages to murder while demanding his release.
Every idiot lefty, whiny, moronic twit in the west would be wringing their hands and crying abouthis "illegal" arrest.
The idiots would also be insisting he be taken to the ICC, which doesn't even have the death penalty.
IT IS WAR, NOT NIGHT COURT
If Osama was brought in alive:
He would be no more of an intelligence asset than are his computers.....which they did bring in alive.
Every idiot Islamist on the face of the earth would be looking for a group of hostages to murder while demanding his release.
Every idiot lefty, whiny, moronic twit in the west would be wringing their hands and crying abouthis "illegal" arrest.
The idiots would also be insisting he be taken to the ICC, which doesn't even have the death penalty.
IT IS WAR, NOT NIGHT COURT
No idea if Canada has the problems we have, but Pakistan is the 12th highest ranked source country for immigration into the United States, and they have proved themselves to be hard workers and good citizens. I would not expect them as a group to be a source of terrorist sleeper cells. (Iran, Sudan, Syria, Yemen and Saudi Arabia however are suspect)
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Exactly right. There is nothing that could be learned from ObL alive that would be worth the whining to let him go free, or worse, release him to Pakistan's custody.
If Osama was brought in alive:
He would be no more of an intelligence asset than are his computers.....which they did bring in alive.
Every idiot Islamist on the face of the earth would be looking for a group of hostages to murder while demanding his release.
Every idiot lefty, whiny, moronic twit in the west would be wringing their hands and crying abouthis "illegal" arrest.
The idiots would also be insisting he be taken to the ICC, which doesn't even have the death penalty.
IT IS WAR, NOT NIGHT COURT
Exactly right. There is nothing that could be learned from ObL alive that would be worth the whining to let him go free, or worse, release him to Pakistan's custody.
So you believe they made no more enemies by this??
As long as that same gen set is hooked to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield & Wolfowitz as well I'm all for it.
If you really tink about it the best thing the US could have done was just 'disappear' him and never tell a soul. Whether he was killed or kept in secret somewhere doesn't matter, by making it a huge public party they have only pissed off a whole bunch of people who will now want revenge.
You are confusing your fantasies again - We are talking about Osama not Israeli's
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Wrong!!!
A war is fought between 2 or more armies on a battlefield. War is declared legally between the combatants. In war people have some honor and respect for those on the other side. War has rules.
Using billions of dollars in high-tech arms and 100,000 troops to invade a country that can barely muster a few RPGs and a truck-load of AKs is not a war. Invading a country because you tell lies to the public about them is not a war.
This is nothing more than a pissing match between the US and those that disagree with their foreign policy to see who can act the dumbest and do the most damage to people who aren't involved and don't care.
Wrong!!!
A war is fought between 2 or more armies on a battlefield. War is declared legally between the combatants. In war people have some honor and respect for those on the other side. War has rules.
Using billions of dollars in high-tech arms and 100,000 troops to invade a country that can barely muster a few RPGs and a truck-load of AKs is not a war. Invading a country because you tell lies to the public about them is not a war.
This is nothing more than a pissing match between the US and those that disagree with their foreign policy to see who can act the dumbest and do the most damage to people who aren't involved and don't care.
Depends which part of WW2 you're talking about.
Read the Geneva conventions.
That's why the US lost Vietnam, they played by the rules established in the GCs and the Vietnamese didn't. That's why the US will never honor those rules again.
And how do they apply now - This type of warfare was not even thought of then - Just think drones - targeted killings - The Geneva Convention is in need of updating as they say.
The US lost the War because of media coverage - After the Tet offensive the VC were spent as a military force - The VC thru every thing they had into it - why - Media - The lost the battle and won the War - media - read your history -
Doesn't matter which part. BOTH sides did not LEGALLY declare a war or establish rules.
Geneva Convention was and is scoffed by at least one side.
Vietnam wasn't a war.... That's the official story. The US lost because they had no idea who the enemy was.
Geneva Convention was and is scoffed by at least one side.
Vietnam wasn't a war.... That's the official story. The US lost because they had no idea who the enemy was.
I agree the GCs need to be brought up to date. They are no longer relevant because nobody takes notice of them anymore, but they are to this day the only rules of war in existence so until there is something new that is all we have to go on.
I'm not trying to say that there aren't massive actions that are against the GCs on both sides. To me though it comes down to who holds honor and the moral high ground so sinking to your opponents level is unacceptable to me.
I'm not trying to say that there aren't massive actions that are against the GCs on both sides. To me though it comes down to who holds honor and the moral high ground so sinking to your opponents level is unacceptable to me.
Wounded enemy on the battle field - No hope of survival - i am referring to the case where the Canadian Capt was convicted.
By a disgruntled Cpl, fat and out of shape along with an
Afghan Terp - They were the so called witnesses who provide the so called burden of proof that convicted the Capt.
What would you do??