Ontario Election 2014 - The Official Thread
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He's a civie elected by the public as opposed to most civies given their position by a relative.
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They were employees with NO OVERSIGHT, and one was a drunk. Glad there was a private lab around. Harris already closed the publicly owned lab.
P.S.: The proper spelling is HOODAT !
EKOS shows widening Liberal edge in Ontario
Another poll, another take on the political situation in Ontario. The latest survey from EKOS Research for iPolitics shows the Liberals ahead of the Progressive Conservatives by the healthiest margin we have seen in any poll so far in this campaign. The only leads we have seen wider than this were the ones awarded to the Tories!
Sunrise, sunset. The projection now shows - again - a close race between the Progressive Conservatives and the Liberals. The PCs are back down to 35.8%, or between 34% and 39%, while the Liberals are at 35.7%, or between 34% and 39% as well. The New Democrats slipped to 21.8%, or between 20% and 23%, while the Greens are at 5.5%, or between 4% and 7%.
The Liberals have moved ahead in the seat projection, and now lead with 49. The PCs have fallen back into second with 44, while the New Democrats have taken a deep tumble to just 14 seats. The ranges favour the Liberals, at between 39 to 57 seats against 35 to 52 for the Tories and 14 to 18 for the NDP.
ThreeHundredEight.com: EKOS shows widening Liberal edge in Ontario
Another poll, another take on the political situation in Ontario. The latest survey from EKOS Research for iPolitics shows the Liberals ahead of the Progressive Conservatives by the healthiest margin we have seen in any poll so far in this campaign. The only leads we have seen wider than this were the ones awarded to the Tories!
Sunrise, sunset. The projection now shows - again - a close race between the Progressive Conservatives and the Liberals. The PCs are back down to 35.8%, or between 34% and 39%, while the Liberals are at 35.7%, or between 34% and 39% as well. The New Democrats slipped to 21.8%, or between 20% and 23%, while the Greens are at 5.5%, or between 4% and 7%.
The Liberals have moved ahead in the seat projection, and now lead with 49. The PCs have fallen back into second with 44, while the New Democrats have taken a deep tumble to just 14 seats. The ranges favour the Liberals, at between 39 to 57 seats against 35 to 52 for the Tories and 14 to 18 for the NDP.
ThreeHundredEight.com: EKOS shows widening Liberal edge in Ontario
Couple of things here its said people are getting tired of the Federal Conservatives
People are restless across the country. I do think it depends of the mood the day
of the election. If there is a disconnect with municipal and provincial elections then
it depends on who comes out to vote. Right now that is a toss up. We had this in
BC several years ago and it didn't make much difference if you are a Canadian
with a sense of responsibility you will vote anywhay.
People are restless across the country. I do think it depends of the mood the day
of the election. If there is a disconnect with municipal and provincial elections then
it depends on who comes out to vote. Right now that is a toss up. We had this in
BC several years ago and it didn't make much difference if you are a Canadian
with a sense of responsibility you will vote anywhay.
If you have resided in Ontario for some years, and were of a certain age when Ontario's Common Sense Revolution was conducted by Mike 'The Knife' Harris, you will recall it was a time of great upheaval that, contrary to the mythologizing that the right-wing so much enjoys fabricating, left the bulk of Ontarians worse off.
It was a time of job cuts, dissension, the sowing of hatred against various groups that fell into Harris' crosshairs, monumental downloading of provincial responsibilities to municipalities for which property owners are still paying dearly in their tax bills, the selling off of Highway 407 to cover fiscal ineptitude and balance the books, etc. etc. And yet, Harris was wielding a mere hatchet in his reductionist zeal compared to the battle axe that his acolyte, young Tim Hudak, plans to use should he win the election.
With the magical thinking so favoured by the extreme right, Hudak says that to balance the budget he will slash 100,000 public sector jobs out of whose ashes, along with more corporate tax cuts, will emerge one million 'good-paying jobs.' Forget for a moment that both (read) strategies has been (read) amply discredited and look closer at the numbers.
In a piece in today's (read) Star, Kaylie Tiessen and Kayle Hatt analyse what will be involved in these cuts:
Statistics Canada indicates there were 88,483 Ontario public servants in the general government category in 2012, the most recent year of data available.
This includes the core public service, agencies, boards and commissions (such as Metrolinx, the Ontario Municipal Board, the Niagara Falls Bridge authority and several hundred other organizations), provincial police and judicial employees.
Eliminating 100,000 jobs would amount to 15.3 per cent of Ontario’s provincial public servants — 1.5 per cent of the total jobs in Ontario.
And this means the broader public service, including those involved in public education and health care, and would likely range from teachers, educational assistants, community home-care providers, nurses, etc.
The writers also make a point that Hudak conveniently chooses to ignore: the multiplier effect:
The federal ministry of finance estimates the multiplier effect of government spending is approximately 1.5. That means every dollar the government spends generates an additional 50 cents in economic activity through increased consumer spending, business activity and other second order effects.
Using that multiplier, we estimate the impact of cutting 100,000 good jobs out of Ontario’s economy would result in the loss of an additional 50,000 private sector jobs — because those who used to be employed in the public sector would no longer have the money they need to participate in the local economy, go to movies, eat at local restaurants and shop in local stores.
Essentially, the boy who would be premier demands that we bow at the twin altars of austerity and corporate tax reduction. Hudak tells us that it will be good for all of us, although it is truly difficult to discern any beneficiaries in this mad gambit.
The more people who understand these facts, one hopes, the less support Hudak's demented vision will receive on June 12.
It was a time of job cuts, dissension, the sowing of hatred against various groups that fell into Harris' crosshairs, monumental downloading of provincial responsibilities to municipalities for which property owners are still paying dearly in their tax bills, the selling off of Highway 407 to cover fiscal ineptitude and balance the books, etc. etc. And yet, Harris was wielding a mere hatchet in his reductionist zeal compared to the battle axe that his acolyte, young Tim Hudak, plans to use should he win the election.
With the magical thinking so favoured by the extreme right, Hudak says that to balance the budget he will slash 100,000 public sector jobs out of whose ashes, along with more corporate tax cuts, will emerge one million 'good-paying jobs.' Forget for a moment that both (read) strategies has been (read) amply discredited and look closer at the numbers.
In a piece in today's (read) Star, Kaylie Tiessen and Kayle Hatt analyse what will be involved in these cuts:
Statistics Canada indicates there were 88,483 Ontario public servants in the general government category in 2012, the most recent year of data available.
This includes the core public service, agencies, boards and commissions (such as Metrolinx, the Ontario Municipal Board, the Niagara Falls Bridge authority and several hundred other organizations), provincial police and judicial employees.
Eliminating 100,000 jobs would amount to 15.3 per cent of Ontario’s provincial public servants — 1.5 per cent of the total jobs in Ontario.
And this means the broader public service, including those involved in public education and health care, and would likely range from teachers, educational assistants, community home-care providers, nurses, etc.
The writers also make a point that Hudak conveniently chooses to ignore: the multiplier effect:
The federal ministry of finance estimates the multiplier effect of government spending is approximately 1.5. That means every dollar the government spends generates an additional 50 cents in economic activity through increased consumer spending, business activity and other second order effects.
Using that multiplier, we estimate the impact of cutting 100,000 good jobs out of Ontario’s economy would result in the loss of an additional 50,000 private sector jobs — because those who used to be employed in the public sector would no longer have the money they need to participate in the local economy, go to movies, eat at local restaurants and shop in local stores.
Essentially, the boy who would be premier demands that we bow at the twin altars of austerity and corporate tax reduction. Hudak tells us that it will be good for all of us, although it is truly difficult to discern any beneficiaries in this mad gambit.
The more people who understand these facts, one hopes, the less support Hudak's demented vision will receive on June 12.
The economy was booming all across Canada and the US regardless of who was in power. It is nice to be in power during the good part of the economic cycle.
Remember though, that in these good economic times, they still had to resort to really bone headed moves like selling off a highway and spinning off Ontario Hydro to "balance" the budget.
The costs of borrowing a few billion dollars would have been far less than what these choices cost us.
I remember being driven to the point where I could almost understand why certain degraded and cast-off members of society find dynamite vests fashionable in public places. It was then, I vowed if I am ever again driven to the point where suicide feels like an option, at least one of those bas*ards are going with me. If you wonder where "terrorism" takes root, study up on the effects of oppressive technique.
I think we've been taught the hard lesson, both provincially and federally, that austerity is not the way.
My recolections were that the leftards who were no longer enjoying a free lunch were pretty upset. Everybody else was pretty happy. Taxes were lower. The economy was booming. Ontario was leading in that regard and may have trickled over to other areas. 4 years of NDP led recession came to an end.
Didn't agree with everything they did but certainly leap years better than the tax and spend Lieberals who have followed.
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Until "That Day", I believed PC was the Party to lead. I'm still quite right-leaning - even if I have to rely on ODSP for an existence. Mike Harris was the very last Tory who ever got my vote - based on the sunshine and rainbows semantics in his promised "war on poverty". I was disabled on the job - while working for the province in one of those earlier Tory darlings: a contract job with MTO. Never again will I believe....
I sometimes think that the bureaucracy that controls workman's comp, ODSP and other departments works independently of whoever is in charge of the government in T.O.
I've had the hardest time getting through some knucklehead on the phone that wouldn't pay for a travel grant to Toronto for a detached retina because (She Said) that they had eye specialists in North Bay and Sudbury.
It took me the longest time on the phone to try and explain to that knucklehead to try and explain to her that the reason they are called "Specialists"
Finally after hanging up and calling back two more times I got an intelligent person that understood that the closest to Northern Ontario was either Toronto or Ottawa which are the same distance from where I live........
I've had the hardest time getting through some knucklehead on the phone that wouldn't pay for a travel grant to Toronto for a detached retina because (She Said) that they had eye specialists in North Bay and Sudbury.
It took me the longest time on the phone to try and explain to that knucklehead to try and explain to her that the reason they are called "Specialists"
Finally after hanging up and calling back two more times I got an intelligent person that understood that the closest to Northern Ontario was either Toronto or Ottawa which are the same distance from where I live........
All of North America was in a recession in the early 90's. There were conservatives in charge of both Canada and the US, but somehow the NDP in Ontario were the cause? And then when all of North America was on an economic upswing, somehow that is attributed to the PCs in Ontario?
Pretty much anyone who had kids in school or ever needed to access a hospital were hurt by the "Common Sense" cuts.
"Piffle" translates to you are correct but I wouldn't dare admit to it because it may cause me to actually think outside the Kool-Aid jug