Occupy Wall Street Fail

Dixie Cup

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The mere fact that there has been such a vociferous reaction from the Neocon establishment to this, especially from Republican legislators and business lobbying groups, gives me some hope that it might gel into a popular movement against the Free Market, libertarian ideologues who had assumed that they could manipulate the public opinion by obfuscating the utter failure of their program through the media and intellectural sophistry of their minted 'experts'. They created their own mass 'revolution' in the highly contrived and fraudulent Tea Party movement, to preclude exactly this type of reaction.. a genuine, spontaneous grass roots uprising. They know how powerful these can be.

The 'Occupy Wall Street' movement needs a rational voice, which will concentrate on the real issues here.. and marginalize the lunatic fringe which always responds to these, and often distract and destabilize them. The issues are economic, and they need an agenda, specifically related to re-establishing a dirigiste nationalistic economic system, including protective tariffs with the specific goal of full employment, real progressive taxation, especially on capital gains at the full marginal rate (which should be at 75% not Obama's 35% for all income over $1 million), re-nationalization of the currency and credit policy by rescinding all Monetarist policies (free trade in currency and credit).. and by mammoth public investment in transportation and industrial infrastructure and education.

I think this movement will sustain itself, because the alternative is economic collapse. It just needs some focus and leadership.

Wow, that was a real intellectual discourse.

But let me ask you. If I (or anyone) works hard and earns money - whose money is it? Is it mine or is does it belong to the governments? Who should decide what I contribute to the whole and what I keep for myself - me or the government?

It's all well and good to as you put it "re-establish(sp) a dirigiste nationalistic economic system" but who really wins in the end? Socialism hasn't worked yet. But I'd love you to answer my question. Whose money is it?

Just askin'
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
ES has said he didn't care for some of 'his brothers' yet some are 'still' his best friends.

Lets see you admit your memory of what yopu recently said is ****ed up. lol
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"My best friends were/are Marines.."

In other words you lied? I still don't see how you can take "My best friends were/are Marines" and twist it into I don't care for Marines.

You fail again MHz!

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
Lets see you admit your memory of what yopu recently said is ****ed up. lol​

Do you think you'll ever be able to form a sentence?
 

CDNBear

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Most people fear what they don't understand. Judging by the reaction of the detractors there is an underpinning of fear that is more like a splinter in their mind. Ridicule is a sign that the fear is justified despite being unidentified.
Cliffy, I'm all for change on Wall St. Bay St, whatever street people with paper education, shuffle paper and reap millions in profits, on the backs of millions of people, who actually make tangible things...

I think this whole Occupy movement, is silly. Poorly planned and has far too many nutters roaming around acting like front men.

The horror.
The disrespect. I say that, because you obviously aren't bright enough to grasp it.

Desecrating statues and flags? Drugs? Sex? Twitter postings? Blocking traffic?
What happened to the good old days, when a group of protesters picked a target, marched on it, had a sit in, made their point clearly and left nothing to the imagination?

I'm so scandalized.
You spelled transparent wrong.
 

MHz

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In other words you lied? I still don't see how you can take "My best friends were/are Marines" and twist it into I don't care for Marines.

You fail again MHz!



Do you think you'll ever be able to form a sentence?
That part came right after the quote I posted, her is the other part that you need, unless you now care for assholes, "and some of the biggest azzholes I ever met were"

If that doesn't float your boat then this comment should prove that you don't care for some, "says he was a Marine. Our views are night and day."

You forgot to mention what you thought of the person that executed Pat Tillman, would you consider him a friend or not?
 

EagleSmack

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That part came right after the quote I posted, her is the other part that you need, unless you now care for assholes, "and some of the biggest azzholes I ever met were"

So if your brother is an azzhole... it means you don't care for him?

If that doesn't float your boat then this comment should prove that you don't care for some, "says he was a Marine. Our views are night and day."

So if one has a brother and his views are far different... it means you shouldn't care for him? My brother is a liberal and I care for him a lot.

Do you have anymore "stupid" to add?

Oh wait... I have one more thing to respond to!

You forgot to mention what you thought of the person that executed Pat Tillman, would you consider him a friend or not?

Yes I guess you did have more stupid to add.

Who "executed" Pat Tillman? That is assuming that you know the difference between negligence and and an execution.
 

ironsides

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Anything for a little sex.

It’s Occupy Igloo.
Wall Street protestors in Zuccotti Park hunkered down in tents today as the early October snow began pelting down.
The fall record-breaker is expected to cover the sidewalks in a 3 inch sheet.
Even though it’ll be extra chilly at the sprawling camp which is also now down six generators and 13 fuel containers, removed by the FDNY yesterday, Wall Street haters were toughing it out.
“I got my blanket, I got my sleeping bag and I got my girl,” said 25-year-old protestor Rene, who came from Occupy Miami to Occupy Wall Street, “so it’s not hard to stay warm.”
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/occupy_camp_defiant_on_snow_day_hG5neMYoXbQ6ATy4ygpI2J

After riding out a cold wet night, protesters at Occupy Boston tried to dry out yesterday, while fortifying their tent city for the first roar of winter weather, expected this weekend. They have propped their tents on plywood sheets or on pallets, to keep them out of the mud, and swaddled them in heavy blue tarps. Campers yesterday pounded tent stakes and strung new guy-lines to steady wobbly summer shelters designed for bug protection, not for snow.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/10/29/occupy_boston_prepares_for_cold_weather/

 

EagleSmack

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Why else would he, in a string of commentary pertaining to Marines and Marine brotherhood, bring up an Army incident?

I don't think he's confused. I know he is.

True.

He also thinks providing hot meals is in the U.S Constitution. Then he changed up a bit and said something about prohibiting the denial of hot meals is in the U.S Constitution. lmao.

What a fruitcake. He simply is. That is why it is so important for guys like him to stay in this forum and post often. The more they post the better.
 

taxslave

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Somehow, the stereotypical young person thing your using just doesn't work.

It comes off kinda like "Those damn kids, why don't they keep off my lawn?" That's why the critics of Occupy come off as so laughable.

I'm saying that not to defend Occupy or sympathize with them at all. Rather, I'm saying it as some advice. It makes you look more silly than any protestor looks.

No you missed the point. This is mostly a crowd of freeloaders. Unlike most of us they don't seem to have any desire to work hard. Rather they sort of want to have those that make money just hand over a sizable chunck of it for nothing. Granted there is lots wrong with how Wall St. et al operate but making silly vague demands accomplishes nothing. In the 60s and 70s we had definate goals for demonstrations such as banning nukes, legalizing pot, permitting girls to wear jeans in school etc. These people don't know what they want and more to the point they don't want to work at changing what they don't like.

I guess the bottom line is if you don't like how it is vote for someone that will work towards making what you want . The rest of us do.
 

JLM

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No you missed the point. This is mostly a crowd of freeloaders. Unlike most of us they don't seem to have any desire to work hard. Rather they sort of want to have those that make money just hand over a sizable chunck of it for nothing. Granted there is lots wrong with how Wall St. et al operate but making silly vague demands accomplishes nothing. In the 60s and 70s we had definate goals for demonstrations such as banning nukes, legalizing pot, permitting girls to wear jeans in school etc. These people don't know what they want and more to the point they don't want to work at changing what they don't like.

I guess the bottom line is if you don't like how it is vote for someone that will work towards making what you want . The rest of us do.

Bang on as usual, Taxslave. These people are frustrated, as all "the gravy" in life just isn't flowing their way, while the fat cats (some of whom are crooked as a dog's hind leg) are outsmarting them! :smile:
 

EagleSmack

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No you missed the point. This is mostly a crowd of freeloaders. Unlike most of us they don't seem to have any desire to work hard. Rather they sort of want to have those that make money just hand over a sizable chunck of it for nothing. Granted there is lots wrong with how Wall St. et al operate but making silly vague demands accomplishes nothing. In the 60s and 70s we had definate goals for demonstrations such as banning nukes, legalizing pot, permitting girls to wear jeans in school etc. These people don't know what they want and more to the point they don't want to work at changing what they don't like.

I guess the bottom line is if you don't like how it is vote for someone that will work towards making what you want . The rest of us do.

That about sums it up. Think about it, they say they are ready to camp in these places for the winter. Hello? Shouldn't they be looking for work?

Meanwhile life (and Wall St. proper) goes on whithout skipping a beat. Wall St. is completely unphased by this.
 

gore0bsessed

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The Low-Down: As American as...Fighting the Banking Industry: the Founding Fathers' First Fear




Trick question: what is the most common thread uniting disparate Americans since 1764? No, it is not the right to distill your own liquor. Nor is it opposition to paying taxes. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness dont make the cut either.

Yup, believe it or not, fear of the concentrated power of the banking industry has been the most consistent theme in American history since at least 1764. It helped spark the American Revolution. Presidents as diverse as Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and his cousin Franklin all fought it - and with far more vitriol than we are ever likely to see today.
 

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If you want to look at it honestly, these people have legitimate beef. Eevry year, the gap between haves and have nots grows. all of the blame for being unemployed or underemployed shouldn't be placed on the individual. As a society we have screwed up and let things get too far out of hand. There should be a balance that allows the individual a better chance in society than what we currently have. I won't make baseless accusations about people just not being on a gravy train so they complain. Some of that might be true but it's an overstatement to judge the entire movement as nut jobs or lazy useless people.