Nunavut families to protest high food costs where whole chicken costs $65

Tonington

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Small scale nuclear reactors would go a long way to providing energy self sufficiency.

With cheap plentiful electricity they could indeed power greehhouses/raise their own chickens/whatever.

Probably cheaper just to increase the Northern allowance. You still have to ship all the material in to build the reactors...
 

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Probably cheaper just to increase the Northern allowance. You still have to ship all the material in to build the reactors...

Or if they continue shipping food and everything needed bu trucks,possibly some automotive engineers could make or modify them so they'd do 100 miles per litre.

Could also apply to cars,cause i think vehicles should be made for the consummers,not the consummed(oil companies)
 

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Cost for shipping freight North is astronomical and based mostly on fuel expenses. When I ran diesel North we estimated the cost of each litre shipped to be somewhere around thirty bucks or more after the Company/Driver and Logistics were covered.

The same applies to sending food and provisions North.
 

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Crazy up there,a small bottle of Dasanti is 5 bucks,24 cans of pop about 75 bucks,and for the peeps that cant get ceremonial booze from the rcmp because they maybe tipple a bit too much a 24 of rye whiskey will cost 250 bucks,for the smokers it's 50 bucks a gram for winnipeg bud.

No wonder the suicide rate is so high there.

Thats what I do in the arctic,expedite,make **** happen,last camp I was at south of Cambridge bay would see the only 2 commercial hercs in Canada doing 3 flights each night to my ice strip,22,000 liters of diesel per bladder.
Then dormiers,buffs and otters all day long.This is only to resupply a 50 man exploration camp,most arctic communities would be lucky to get the air support we do,we get more planes in a night then most hamlets do in a year.

We relocated these people,we expect them to guard our north with ww2 303 british rifles in conditions that would kill most southerners and for anyone who thinks wages up there are good they are not,minimum wage mostly,try shopping when your making 12 bucks an hour and a box of pampers cost 75 bucks.
Wages suck in the arctic,big time.Camp managers make about 300 a day,thats it.You dont go work and live there for the money,you do it for the total awesomness that surrounds you when there.
 

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Again building some ports,or installing a few piers here and there,would i think be a good way to keep Canada's sovereignty over the north.
Yup,that would be about a dozen big mines starting as soon as someone announced a deep seaport at Bathurst was going to be built,and an all weather road to the mines.I participated in building Nunavuts longest all weather(gravel/ice) road to the mine I helped develop and it's just over 110 kilometers long.

No roads man,everythings plane or barge or winter ice road.

Nothing moves fast in the arctic,what takes a day to get here will take a month to get there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ccd5au3D_Q

You've run a store in Nunavut?
Ive expedited and ran quite a few camps right near the arctic circle,ask me anything.

Shes all choppers,planes and barges,I have over 70 vids of my journeys up there,pure awesomness.

Just another day at the office - YouTube
 
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Kakato

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So i guess a railroad going up there is impossible to do,and even more today,with how much it would cost,including bribes and corruptions in the construction industries.
Impossible? no but not cost effective.
They only get about 3 or 4 months shipping on the Hudsons Bay before the barges freeze in.
I could count at least 5 flying out in early october.

Nuna construction does most of the work up north and all ice roads and RLT trucking from YK also does this work.

I could spend a week building an ice road 20 kliks long with a d7 dozer,a ground blizzard off hudsons bay would blow in and I would lose the entire road in 20 minutes,you could see no tracks or anything to show a road was just there.
Sometimes we would get 20 days of ground blizzards where you couldnt even leave your tent or you would be toast.

Nunavut Grocery Prices = Insane!!!! - YouTube

Back in the fifties, those people we then called Eskimos, didn't seem to eat chickens and apples, but the rot was
setting in. They drank coffee and a lot of them had rifles. I was only up there as a kid for three days but the strongest impression
I brought back was how happy they all seemed. Sounds like that has all changed.
Their happiest Juan when they get the only jobs available up there and thats mining or drilling,then they get wages,camp and good food at camp.

This is what I'm saying,the camps feed the Innuit(dont call them eskimos)better then the government can.

Harper and other leaders go up there,realize theres a problem,do a few photo ops and then leave and thats it.

Even with high food prices,we still have kick ass snow sculpture competitions,the engineers won this one with the addition of an "ice penis" to it.


The lil guy is mine,should have known the engineers would go big.
 
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Kakato

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You also go on a waiting list for an apartment or house,sometimes for years and rent depends on how much money you make,the higher the income the more rent your charged.I dont know how they survive,I guess thats why they are allways hunting and fishing.
 

Kakato

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Or bigger air strip to handle bigger cargo planes.

You need a minimum 1000 meters for the c130 and thats the biggest normally flying up there,we had the big russian fuel haulers when the hercs were busy elsewhere.It only takes one guy about a week to get a strip built on the ice but the real problem is the exploration camps get all the planes,it is absolutely essential to haul in all your diesel,jet A and B in the 3 months your strip will last.Thats about 5 or 6000 drums of jet fuel for the choppers and more drums of diesel for the drills to last untill shutdown at end of september.

A deep sea port at Bathurst would keep a shipping lane open and keep a few icebreakers busy,supplys could then be flown out to the communities from there.

I dont know why the government keeps ignoring this problem,we relocated these people into one of the harshest environments in the world.We expect them to guard our borders with 303 rifles,I think they deserve a bit more respect then that.

Luv the big hercs! Got blown down the lake by prop wash one day in a cat 277 skidsteer as it spooled up those huge fricken engines one day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mHzijc6FY
 

Kakato

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The advantage .303's have is they're not as likely to freeze up at -50
Very true,too bad they arent given new ones though,not ww2 surplus.Most Rangers have their own rifles anyways.
Electronics dont work so well up there,I've seen -57 ambient,the propane is froze if you dont have a heater on it at that temp.
 

Kakato

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You know it's cold when a bottle of Everclear turns to slush.
and your beard freezes to the breathing hole in your sleeping bags.
At -80 windchill I broke for the kitchen,good thing my sleeping bag was froze to my face,I had bedding when I hit the warm kitchen floor.At that temp the diesel heaters were dropping like flys.
 

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As some people have pointed out, the inhabitants of Nunavut could always move south. However, the situation is a bit more complex than that. Nunavut and its people are necessary to maintain Canada's claim to the arctic. If there was no Nunavut Canada would probably have to create one. Since it is already there, it makes sense to maintain it, even if that means subsidizing the small number of people who actually live there.