Now confirmed that Trump is putting innocent children in cages

[EagleSmack]

How can anyone be incarcerated for breaking the law when they have had no trial?

You're kidding right?


Please tell me this was not an actual question.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Here is another heart tugger for you TB and OB

FACT CHECK: Are 80% Of Migrant Women Raped On Their Journey To The US?

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders claimed Friday that up to 80 percent of migrant women traveling through Mexico are raped.
Verdict: True
Estimates vary, but as many as eight in 10 migrant women may be raped by transnational gang members, other migrants or corrupt officials on their journey to the U.S.
Fact Check:


At a tax reform roundtable Thursday, President Donald Trump veered off script to talk at length about illegal immigration. He brought up how a “caravan” of roughly 1,000 Central American migrants, mostly from Honduras, were making their way through Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S.
“And yesterday, it came out where, this journey coming up, women are raped at levels that nobody has ever seen before,” claimed Trump. “They don’t want to mention that.”
The caravan made headlines last week after Trump repeatedly tweeted about the trek, demanding that the Mexican government stop the migrants before they reached the U.S.
Media outlets criticized his Thursday remarks, saying there were no reports of rape within the caravan. Caravan members told The Daily Mail that sexual predators and human traffickers were at one point “pestering” women for sex, but the caravan had formed patrols to ward them off.

At the White House press briefing the next day, a reporter asked if Sanders could clarify the President’s remarks about reports of rape.
“There was a story – I believe it was the LA Times, I don’t have it here in front of me – that documented some of that,” Sanders replied.

And then there are these facts TB and OB

Did 80 Percent of Undocumented Minors Arrive in the United States Without Parents?

From a literal standpoint, the White House stated that (for example) on the specific day of 20 June 2018, there were 11,887 minors under the care of the HSS, and that on that specific day, 9,834 of those minors were classified as having arrived in the country without a guardian.
Those 9,834 people, however, actually represent the population of children detained prior to the official adoption of the policy.
Alex Nowrasteh, a senior immigration policy analyst at the Cato Institute’s Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity, told us that the calculation appears quite rudimentary:
[The 80% statistic is] based on […] what some HHS spokesperson said, and then what some people have reported as the number of kids separated, but that’s it. I mean, that’s a real back-of-the-envelope [calculation], because we don’t know anything about the numbers that are in HSS anyway.

Their data indicates that between 1 October and 31 May 2018, 252,187 individuals were apprehended crossing the southern border, and of these 32,372 (13 percent) were identified as unaccompanied alien children. Another 59,113 individuals were IDed as being part of a “family unit” (23 percent).
The “family unit” distinction is problematic when trying to verify what percentage of minors crossed alone — the statistic to which Sessions claims he is speaking — because those 59,113 include both minors and the family member or members they were with at the time of separation.
At least publicly (and according to the Department of Justice, all of the information is public), the data needed to verify Session’s claim does not exist, and instead relies on the untestable assumption that the demographics of the children in Health and Human Service’s care match the demographics of child border crossers in general

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[Tecumsehsbones]

Argument by anecdote. How amusingly childish.

And it's interesting that your own article says the 80% claim is garbage.

Why don't you go back to saying that Mike Huckabee's unsupported, uncorroborated claim, that even Fox carried as merely a claim, is the Whole Truth, Written In Stone By The Finger Of Gawd?

You're kidding right?


Please tell me this was not an actual question.

Of course it's not. Hoid doesn't understand the difference between jail and prison anymore than Ski understands the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony.

But wingers on either side never let facts get in the way of their truths.

 

[Hoid]

80% of the family units coming in illegally are not family units,

of course they are. you read it on the internet

Argument by anecdote. How amusingly childish.

And it's interesting that your own article says the 80% claim is garbage.

Why don't you go back to saying that Mike Huckabee's unsupported, uncorroborated claim, that even Fox carried as merely a claim, is the Whole Truth, Written In Stone By The Finger Of Gawd?


Of course it's not. Hoid doesn't understand the difference between jail and prison anymore than Ski understands the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony.

But wingers on either side never let facts get in the way of their truths.

I understand the difference between due process and injustice - just like any other normal person.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

of course they are. you read it on the internet



I understand the difference between due process and injustice - just like any other normal person.

Justice is a term with no meaning.

Hoid, you are no less a Twue Bewiever than any of the MAGAhats on this board.

 

[darkbeaver]

Pretty stupid if they are to lazy and can't fix their own country and expect other countries to look after them.

Hey shjthead,most of the countrys these illegles flee have been wrecked by American interventions including bombings assasinations and paid violent oppositions employed to destroy effective government. It is to be hoped that some day you,ll get looked after by Americans the same way.

 

[EagleSmack]

What about 9/11

 

[JLM]

THAT is pure unadulterated horse shit, Cliffy. Like I've said before a thousand times melodrama voids credibility! When sensible people see "Hitler" on the same page as "Trump" they quit reading!

 

[Cliffy]

THAT is pure unadulterated horse shit, Cliffy. Like I've said before a thousand times melodrama voids credibility! When sensible people see "Hitler" on the same page as "Trump" they quit reading!

You really are looking at this piece of human excrement through rose coloured glasses, aren't you. Denial will only prolong the agony. I'm sure most Germans turned a blind eye too, in the beginning.

 

[JLM]

You really are looking at this piece of human excrement through rose coloured glasses, aren't you. Denial will only prolong the agony. I'm sure most Germans turned a blind eye too, in the beginning.

Not having a "winning personality" doesn't equate to "human excrement". He's a politician, Cliffy and having a few "rough edges" is part and parcel of it. The country is NOT going to be cleaned up by nice people, it just doesn't work that way. You don't send out song birds to kill alligators.

 

[taxslave]

You really are looking at this piece of human excrement through rose coloured glasses, aren't you. Denial will only prolong the agony. I'm sure most Germans turned a blind eye too, in the beginning.

There is no agony. Only pure enjoyment at watching you and breezy get your knickers in a knot over the leader of a foreign county.

 

[Bar Sinister]

 

[Ocean Breeze]

There is no agony. Only pure enjoyment at watching you and breezy get your knickers in a knot over the leader of a foreign county.

Don't think it will be all that amusing when the trade war intensifies....and the mule to the south of us retaliates several fold.

One thing is CERTAIN........that idiot is NOT amusing.. and the things he is doing is affecting the world adversely. (except of course Putin and Kim

In fact you might be the ONLY one on the planet that fins him amusing........(and those that see him for the shyster he is) The majority finds him destructive. If one is not at least a tad concerned.......one is not paying attention.(or is locked in that trumpian mindset.)

when a country is being "attacked"..( tariffs and verbally)........why on earth would one support the attacker??

with CDNS like that.....who needs enemies??

 

[JLM]

Don't think it will be all that amusing when the trade war intensifies....and the mule to the south of us retaliates several fold.

One thing is CERTAIN........that idiot is NOT amusing.. and the things he is doing is affecting the world adversely. (except of course Putin and Kim

In fact you might be the ONLY one on the planet that fins him amusing........(and those that see him for the shyster he is) The majority finds him destructive. If one is not at least a tad concerned.......one is not paying attention.(or is locked in that trumpian mindset.)

when a country is being "attacked"..( tariffs and verbally)........why on earth would one support the attacker??

with CDNS like that.....who needs enemies??

The trade war intensifying will NOT be the end of the world. I already have a plan in place for when that happens...………………………...DON'T BUY their shit!

 

[Hoid]

Protests all across America over Trump's ridiculous immigration policy.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/30/us/june-30-immigration-protests/index.html

meanwhile Congress fails once again to pass an immigration law and decides to take a vaca instead.

in the 6 fdays since ordered to reunite children with their parents Trump administration has managed to reunite 6 families. maga.

only 2,000 or so to go. amazingly it should only talk 5.479 years to reunite all these families and that is about when a second Trump term would end!

coincidence?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Why did congress fail? Dems hate kids I guess

 

[Ocean Breeze]

The trade war intensifying will NOT be the end of the world. I already have a plan in place for when that happens...………………………...DON'T BUY their shit!

BRAVO!!

I stopped buying their shyte when trump first uttered his plan against steel and aluminum.

*********

but back to the topic......

even CDNS are protesting in support of the American protesters re: the insane Trump immigration actions..... that have separated kids from their parents.


Onlyh the most PRIMITIVE would be doing what he has done.

They had no problem separating kids from parents........and yet have massive problems reuniting them. Talk about inefficient, disorganisation , and careless. (the new "great america)..sheesh.


T hers is NO excuse for this INHUMANITY...... unless the regime is sadistic .

Why did congress fail? Dems hate kids I guess

You can't be serious.

 

[Twin_Moose]

BRAVO!!

I stopped buying their shyte when trump first uttered his plan against steel and aluminum.

*********

but back to the topic......

even CDNS are protesting in support of the American protesters re: the insane Trump immigration actions..... that have separated kids from their parents.


Onlyh the most PRIMITIVE would be doing what he has done.

They had no problem separating kids from parents........and yet have massive problems reuniting them. They


T hers is NO excuse for this INHUMANITY...... unless the regime is sadistic .


You can't be serious.

So you are completely denying that it is happening in Canada under Trudeau? and to your last comment why didn't any Dems vote in favour of the bill to stop family separation and fix the immigration law? they must hate the children

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So you are completely denying that it is happening in Canada under Trudeau? and to your last comment why didn't any Dems vote in favour of the bill to stop family separation and fix the immigration law? they must hate the children

I'd say she's not falling for your whataboutery.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

So you are completely denying that it is happening in Canada under Trudeau? and to your last comment why didn't any Dems vote in favour of the bill to stop family separation and fix the immigration law? they must hate the children

I honestly don't know why the dems didn't . The dems have been very disappointing . Seems if they had a viable third party ..... it might change the dynamics of the situation......and politics in general. Something more central and independent. Something that extracts the very best of the rep and dems.........and discards the extremist worst.

Two dominant parties is a precipitation for polarization.........a natural progression