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MHz

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Are you up in your sleep? Churches don't do tithe and collections?
Do you think the RCC or the Queen of England could have their own Banks if the Morgan and the Rothschild families weren't the controlling parties. Even Islam plays by their rules, an usury free loan is just upped in purchase price so the interest is built in. All donations to the Church are deduction when the Gov looks at your finances at the end of the year. All money belongs to just one group and the Church or any Religion is not it.

BTW, I consider the entire "issue" of putting biblical quotes on gunsights to be in bad taste, mildly offensive.....I consider the uproar over it to be silly, and spending money to replace the sights idiotic...Big Deal!
BTW I find the making of items such as sniper-scopes to be ass-backwards in a Nation that claims to belong to Christ.. That 'we' strive to be the largest supplier and user of war machines is not something you will want to include in any prayers to the big guy upstairs.
 

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Not at all.

But you are correct, I consider most accusations of "war crimes" to be merely promotion of a specific agenda.........on one side or the other, and they rarely are connected to the reality of warfare.

Genocide is a war crime.

Torture is a war crime.

Violations of treaties that require reciprocal (key word) standards for treatment of prisoners are war crimes.

That's about it.

So is making anybody a refugee intentionally. So is destruction of public utilities, comes under the collective punishment rule, etc. 100 more times
 

lone wolf

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You make the common mistake of equating international relations with criminal law.

The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

BTW, I consider the entire "issue" of putting biblical quotes on gunsights to be in bad taste, mildly offensive.....I consider the uproar over it to be silly, and spending money to replace the sights idiotic...Big Deal!

Some folks will go to any lengths to create their own holy wars ... and others have to make mountains from molehills - if only to justify their own existences
 

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War is a crime against humanity. Thinking that war is justifiable is inhuman.

Cliffy, that is too simplistic.

Should we have allowed Stalin to conquer the world?

Or Hitler?

The course of human development has been decided by warfare........there are a few things worse that war....

Slavery.

Genocide.

The extreme suppression of ideas, the freedom of thought and expression being the essence of humanity's rise..........
 
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lone wolf

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Do you think the RCC or the Queen of England could have their own Banks if the Morgan and the Rothschild families weren't the controlling parties. Even Islam plays by their rules, an usury free loan is just upped in purchase price so the interest is built in. All donations to the Church are deduction when the Gov looks at your finances at the end of the year. All money belongs to just one group and the Church or any Religion is not it.

Neat spin on what was actually said.
 

darkbeaver

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Not at all.

But you are correct, I consider most accusations of "war crimes" to be merely promotion of a specific agenda.........on one side or the other, and they rarely are connected to the reality of warfare.

Genocide is a war crime.

Torture is a war crime.

Violations of treaties that require reciprocal (key word) standards for treatment of prisoners are war crimes.

That's about it.

Let's hope you are not caught torching someones village. Your explanation would get the audience it deserves.
 

MHz

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Cliffy, that is too simplistic.
Should we have allowed Stalin to conquer the world?
Or Hitler?
The course of human development has been decided by warfare........there are a few things worse that war....
Slavery.
Genocide.
The extreme suppression of ideas, the freedom of thought and expression being the essence of humanity's rise..........
Little slow on stopping Stalin and you became good friend in a good long war.
Europe has always been subject to movable borders. A Porche in every garage, damn the inhumanity of it all.
Europe and the West were the slave owners they certainly didn't start any rebellion to free the slaves.
Genocide is an ongoing process in many Nations even today.
 

darkbeaver

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Cliffy, that is too simplistic.

Should we have allowed Stalin to conquer the world?

Or Hitler?

The course of human development has been decided by warfare........there are a few things worse that war....

Slavery.

Genocide.

The extreme suppression of ideas, the freedom of thought and expression being the essence of humanity's rise..........

The bankers of the world still make billions every year from both slavery and genocide, their success depends directly on the size of their army. The course of human development has been retarded by warfare Colpy.
It is common these days like it has been in the past that imperialist and despots of diverse stripes will mouth the same inanities as you have done. You have lots of company because it is the fondest wish of every evil entity that warfare continue to be used as a development tool and that the laurals of wisdom and honour continue to be heaped on the shoulders of killers instead of the meek.
 

MHz

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Neat spin on what was actually said.
:cool: but is it true? The only people who are supposed to pay interest on a (personal) loan is somebody who makes more than the bank owners. lol Perhaps presenting the loan officer with said verse will get you a loan with no interest.
 

MHz

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The bankers of the world still make billions every year from both slavery and genocide, their success depends directly on the size of their army. The course of human development has been retarded by warfare Colpy.
It is common these days like it has been in the past that imperialist and despots of diverse stripes will mouth the same inanities as you have done. You have lots of company because it is the fondest wish of every evil entity that warfare continue to be used as a development tool and that the laurals of wisdom and honour continue to be heaped on the shoulders of killers instead of the meek.
I'm not sure if heaping more things on the meek is such a great idea, starvation alone has made their limbs too weak. for them to become beasts of burden, that would not affect their ability to become beasts of burbon..
 

darkbeaver

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Cliffy, that is too simplistic.

Should we have allowed Stalin to conquer the world?

Or Hitler?

The course of human development has been decided by warfare........there are a few things worse that war....

Slavery.

Genocide.

The extreme suppression of ideas, the freedom of thought and expression being the essence of humanity's rise..........

And yet you support the conquest of the world by Uncle Sam and the bankers. Don't bother to tell me they are always careful about civilians and Stalin was worse. Stalin is dead his empire is gone and it's 2010, try and develope an understanding of the contemporary world. Iraq and Afghanistan had ideas, Gaza has ideas, Hugo Chavez and country have ideas, all suppressed extremely. If there were freedom of expression and thought the warrior would take his place next to the toilet plunger only to be used in an immergency.
 

lone wolf

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:cool: but is it true? The only people who are supposed to pay interest on a (personal) loan is somebody who makes more than the bank owners. lol Perhaps presenting the loan officer with said verse will get you a loan with no interest.

Like I said: Neat spin. You turned to the bank tangent. Was that because you can't make a difference between kill and murder behind the Thou shalt not? Sorry, the smoke and mirrors crap won't extract feet from mouths....
 

darkbeaver

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I'm not sure if heaping more things on the meek is such a great idea, starvation alone has made their limbs too weak. for them to become beasts of burden, that would not affect their ability to become beasts of burbon..

The promise was "the meek shall inherit", if you think for a while you understand that they are the strongest by far and can never be defeated and that is why they are murdered in the millions every year.
 

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Does that mean you have just revoked all definitions of war-crime? 8O

"War crimes" are really an invention of the 20th century, in past wars rape, plunder and pillage were the norm. The treatment of non combatants and prisoners, rules of engagement and such only became a concern in the last few generations.
 

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The American sniper{played by a Canadian whos name escapes me at the moment}in Saving Private Ryan,also said a prayer and kissed his cross before doing his job.He also played a reporter in we were soldiers.
This is gonna drive me crazy!
Barry Pepper!!!
Had to look it up
 

MHz

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Well, to put it kindly Jesus doesn't have a speech impediment nor is He ignorant of just what the Law states. (probably some sort of requirement for being a High Priest), Nor was He shy about saying what rewards false Christians would receive.

Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.

M't:19:18:
He saith unto him,
Which?
Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
M't:19:19:
Honour thy father and thy mother:
and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Go ahead show me the difference.