Did you ever consider the old rules don't apply if they did the world would not be in this economic mess but I guess you are too busy playing with yourself
Mulcair supports East / West pipeline
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Caught me flat footed Lone Wolf. I genuinely forgot, and had to resort to Wiki for an answer.
Me mental acuity is growing less acute.
Not cute, eh:-(
Lately, my wife sends me out for hamburg, and I bring home beer.
Damn!!!8O
All this talk about supplying energy, oil and gas etc, to Asia namely China.
Then there is the plan for the XL they will ship oil south to America and in
turn they will actually be exporting a lot of it.
With the events in Asia, North Korea to be specific how much of our exported
material to China will be exported to the nut cases in North Korea.
I don't think we should export energy to China or any of its allied nations.
I don't think we should trade with them until democracy is secured by the people
in those countries. Everyone is still staring at the Middle East which is a threat
but Asia is a much bigger threat to our security
Then there is the plan for the XL they will ship oil south to America and in
turn they will actually be exporting a lot of it.
With the events in Asia, North Korea to be specific how much of our exported
material to China will be exported to the nut cases in North Korea.
I don't think we should export energy to China or any of its allied nations.
I don't think we should trade with them until democracy is secured by the people
in those countries. Everyone is still staring at the Middle East which is a threat
but Asia is a much bigger threat to our security
Who are they?
How many people are going to blow @nal gaskets when they find out US oil will run through those lines to ship oil ASIA too?
This makes it 4 potential oil export lines on the table so far....
This also says Eastern Canada is going to be importing US NG from frakked wells to heat CDN homes and US NG exported from NB
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The amount of oil we export is a drop in the bucket when you compare the amount of oil available on the world markets.
China and N Korea can get oil from numerous large exporting countries, such as S Arabia, Venezuela, Russia etc etc they are all high exporters of crude.
There is absolutely no way Canada can influence or direct to where their oil molecules end up once it has left it's Canadian borders!!
It's just a silly idea!!
China and N Korea can get oil from numerous large exporting countries, such as S Arabia, Venezuela, Russia etc etc they are all high exporters of crude.
There is absolutely no way Canada can influence or direct to where their oil molecules end up once it has left it's Canadian borders!!
It's just a silly idea!!
A little on the cryptic side, for me at least. In what way do I sound like the people of Greece?
Judging by popular media coverage life in Greece has the potential to be somewhat harsh from a middle class stance...so no, I don't suppose I'd like to be in their boots. Austerity measures seemed to be in order from a superficially informed standpoint but cutting things like pension, for example, seems somewhat knee jerkish when you just know the status quo doesn't change for those in the right places, only for those without the power to effect change.
I don't understand how Greece's economy grows for 14 consecutive years (wiki) and then tanks at the first dip in the curve. Sounds like Alberta....boom boom BUST...
No one was paying taxes... So, how does one actually provide a sustainable system of paying pensions, healthcare and education when the only input of money originates from loans?
Greece is now paying the piper for all of the entitlements they demanded. It will be the next generations that will suffer for the excesses and entitlements of the present generation
I would say initially that those in places of power in government should earn a fair living wage while facing all the hurdles of the "common" man. They should not bow to the illusion which requires the maintenance of a front of elevated status....seems like that should free up some jingle.
I recently saw some video footage of courtroom proceedings in a case drawing world attention. I forget where the case was but I was struck by the courtroom. Just tables and chairs and surroundings you might find in any community center....it was refreshing to see something being done without it having to transpire in a sea of oak and opulence.
Seems as though there might be parallels that could be drawn between Greece and where we are currently regarding entitlement / excess.
Don't focus too heavily on one-time costs like expensive furniture (although it is a waste of money)... The problem for Greece was that the loaned money was not generating any real income for the country via taxes (no one wanted to pay taxes). Greece's biggest problem was that the cost of providing all the recurring entitlements exceeded the amount of taxes collected. Their response was to get loans to fund the shortfall.
The problem, there is a perpetual shortfall.
It was no different than if you or I used a credit card to make partial mortgage payments every month while only paying the minimum payment. At some point, the interest we pay on the card exceeds the actual mortgage payment
Yes and no. We aren't as big an influence on the oil export market but we are a significant player, as we are #6 in world production, #4 in proven reserves and #9 in consumption for oil (natural gas is #3 in production and #10 in consumption); those rankings mean we are on the stage even if our supply mostly goes for internal marketing and usage. We're not in OPEC, but we've never wanted to be or needed to be. And we can't control who exports to where once we have sold our product to anyone outside our borders.
Canada - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Actually it was the Made in Canada Price capping, which knocked 14 % off the price of a Barrel of Alberta oil. Durry is partly right about the price differential, however, the differential is the result of a lot of light crude shipped into eastern Canada,.
its not an 'either or thing.' Alberta Crude will still flow not the American Mid west.
Exactly! In fact that's the reason why refinery's aren't being built here - its not economically viable. Don't you think that if there was a profit to be made they'd be building them? DUH
JMO
To pipe finished product like gasoline or diesel it has to be heavily diluted to raise the flash point which means having to build a return line to the refinery for the diluting agent or simple cook it off into the atmosphere.
The best thing we can do is upgrade heavy oils stripping the valuable petrochemicals for their high dollar value and pipe off the synthetic crude for export. It is what we already are doing.
The best thing we can do is upgrade heavy oils stripping the valuable petrochemicals for their high dollar value and pipe off the synthetic crude for export. It is what we already are doing.
Captain Morgan rediscovers his Liberal roots, abandons reaganite trickle down economics..
The Rand pie in the sky greed system has failed miserably so it's back to Keynesian Socialist economics.
Holy cow man... I never realized that the simple observations I made on different threads are gnawing away at you this badly.
To be perfectly honest, I thought that it was idle banter, but clearly you have internalized this pretty heavily. Did I really strike a cord so loudly that you are now questioning your base position on things?
I hope not..... Ah, who am I kidding; it think it's a blast.
Who cares if some don't pay taxes? If they are producing, they are worth their weight in gold. If they aren't adding to the GDP then it's problematic.