Mom of suspected school shooter -- first to die -- was avid gun enthusiast

[Colpy]

You keep repeating this. You must be trying to convince yourself as well as everyone else. You sound desperate.

LOL

I'm not desperate.

I'm armed to the bloody teeth, and it is totally beyond the power of the state to disarm me, as it is politically impossible to get the necessary legislation..

And I live in Canada.

Much more so in the USA.

As well, even if you DID get the legislation, you think that people will surrender their arms??

Not bloody likely.

So no, desperation is not part of my approach to the subject.

Oh...a couple of thinks to scare you to death!!

DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!!

Especially this one!!

Gun making in Pakistan - Snotr

 

[EagleSmack]

He's not comparing guns and drugs. He's demonstrating how "successful" a ban is on altering people's behaviour.

Thank you.

You can't compare drugs and guns............sensible people use guns and besides drugs will only go away when all the head honchos get behind it..............crack is used by every profession. If you are going to get rid of the "rot" you have to start at the top.

Are we clear now?

 

[L Gilbert]

Really, Some people just can't control themselves because they're ill so they should be where they are well taken care of. It'd be a lot better than making laws that turn normally good people into criminals.

 

[gopher]

And it was militia. The general public is no longer a militia.

Privately created and armed militias were legal under the common law. However, after several attacks by racist groups, several states enacted laws which prohibit or limit their activities:

Laws Regarding Private Militias « LibertyFight Blog


The problem is that these laws can easily be circumvented by its membership declaring them to be private gun clubs or outdoorsmen's groups. Then, they can practice their activities with blanks or splat balls and become fully trained in martial activities. All they need do next is for their commander to give the orders and they will have police at bay.

 

[Kreskin]

A Bill of Rights exists to impose restrictions on the State....not enhance their power.

The greatest restriction possible on a state is an armed population.

The government IS "We The People". It is the collective voice and elected leadership of everyone.

It makes no sense to create a gun society to protect yourself from yourself. Just like it doesn't make sense for a corporation's board of directors to arm themselves in defense of their CEO. It isn't the 1700's anymore. The British aren't coming, and if they do the collective defense of We The People can blow up all of Europe overnight. It won't be a gunfight at the OK Corral. All that this gun stuff is doing is creating a bloodbath from within.

 

[Nuggler]

Check out post # 16 by Taloola. One of the more thoughtful. :thumbleft:

 

[EagleSmack]

The government IS "We The People". It is the collective voice and elected leadership of everyone.

It makes no sense to create a gun society to protect yourself from yourself. Just like it doesn't make sense for a corporation's board of directors to arm themselves in defense of their CEO. It isn't the 1700's anymore. The British aren't coming, and if they do the collective defense of We The People can blow up all of Europe overnight. It won't be a gunfight at the OK Corral. All that this gun stuff is doing is creating a bloodbath from within.

Ban guns... like we did drugs?

Privately created and armed militias were legal under the common law. However, after several attacks by racist groups, several states enacted laws which prohibit or limit their activities:

Laws Regarding Private Militias « LibertyFight Blog


.

Black Panthers?

 

[taxslave]

LOL

I'm not desperate.

I'm armed to the bloody teeth, and it is totally beyond the power of the state to disarm me, as it is politically impossible to get the necessary legislation..

And I live in Canada.

Much more so in the USA.

As well, even if you DID get the legislation, you think that people will surrender their arms??

Not bloody likely.

So no, desperation is not part of my approach to the subject.

Oh...a couple of thinks to scare you to death!!

DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!!

Especially this one!!

Gun making in Pakistan - Snotr

Now some s hithead is going to make me register all my tools cause I can make guns. Personally I think it would be easier to just drive over to Vancouver and trade a $500 bill for an AK and a brick of amo. Might even pick up a hand gun or two to make the trip worthwhile.

 

[JLM]

the piece of ice you slip on and die from a head injury, isn't anyone's fault, although people will
scream and holler for blame to someone

the ball that hits you on the head and kills you, isn't anyone's fault, but can alert stadiums to
try to make the area safer, but it is always because people weren't paying attention to the game,
or just didn't see a ball coming from wherever, a ball game or a hockey game is a place to 'watch'
the game, but many use it to chit chat, text much of the time, so they have to bare responsibility
for their own safety.

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Very sensible post!

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

People don't kill people Guns kill people and gun makers should be thrown in jail.

You know I originally skipped over this post, but in retrospect I was compelled to come back and point out how utterly moronic it is.

Carry on...

 

[gopher]

Black Panthers?

Perfectly legal in Texas despite its laws.

 

[JLM]

Mom of suspected school shooter -- first to die -- was avid gun enthusiast, friend says

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The mother of the suspected Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman, herself slain at the outset of the murderous rampage, was an avid gun enthusiast who liked to take her sons to the shooting range to practice their marksmanship, a friend tells NBC News.

Dan Holmes, a local landscaper and a friend of Nancy Lanza, mother of 20-year-old suspected gunman Adam Lanza, said she also was a collector.

“She had a pretty extensive gun collection,” Holmes said. “She was a collector, she was pretty proud of that. She always mentioned that she really loved the act of shooting.”

Holmes recalled that she said she was able to “focus in” while shooting.

Federal officials tell NBC News that Adam Lanza took three weapons with him to the school – two pistols, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, and a Bushmaster .223-caliber semi-automatic assault-style rifle – all of which were registered to Nancy Lanza.

It is unclear whether all the guns were used in the attack. At a news briefing on Saturday, Chief Medical Examiner Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, who led the team that autopsied the victims, said, “All the (injuries) … I know of were caused by the rifle.”

The Associated Press reported that authorities investigating the school shooting later recovered additional weapons -- a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun. It was not clear where those weapons were found.

Holmes, Nancy Lanza’s friend, said the 47-year-old single mother also frequently talked about how she was worried about Adam.

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Source & video: Mom of suspected school shooter -- first to die -- was avid gun enthusiast, friend says - Open Channel

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5 to 1 say's shes not so enthusiastic about guns now...

I really doubt if she was guilty of anything. Certainly never dreampt her own son would do anything like that. Her death may well be a blessing in disguise as her life would be a living hell. I'm not sure she is getting much sympathy as a victim - very tragic.

 

[talloola]

You know I originally skipped over this post, but in retrospect I was compelled to come back and point out how utterly moronic it is.

Carry on...

if someone falls off a chair and breaks their neck, of course it was not the chairs fault, 'I agree' with you', it
is moronic, nothing that is manufactured and used by anyone can have fault, and saying that to others

sounds like a kindergarten remark.

the human race is responsible for everything built on this earth, and none of it is at fault for anything

that it/they does that has a negative result to any human. jeesh. or am I missing something.!!!!!!!

 

[Bar Sinister]

Fully automatic assault rifles are banned in Canada.

Give me 24hours and I can have a trunk load of them.

Banning only stops law abiding citizens from owning them.

A completely fallacious argument. Any law can be broken, but that doesn't mean we should not have any laws. For the most part Canadians don't own assault rifles or firearms in general is because the law says they shouldn't have them or makes it difficult to acquire them. I got my first rifle by walking down to Sears and buying one. I was 14. Canadians can't do that now and most of them will abide by the law.

LOL

I'm not desperate.

I'm armed to the bloody teeth, and it is totally beyond the power of the state to disarm me, as it is politically impossible to get the necessary legislation..

And I live in Canada.

Much more so in the USA.

As well, even if you DID get the legislation, you think that people will surrender their arms??

Not bloody likely.

So no, desperation is not part of my approach to the subject.

Oh...a couple of thinks to scare you to death!!

DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!!

Especially this one!!

Gun making in Pakistan - Snotr

This sort of post is self defeating. It reveals an attachment to firearms that has nothing to do with logic and everything to do with emotion. I expect you were just blowing off steam, but it does nothing to strengthen your credibility.

 

[Colpy]

A completely fallacious argument. Any law can be broken, but that doesn't mean we should not have any laws. For the most part Canadians don't own assault rifles or firearms in general is because the law says they shouldn't have them or makes it difficult to acquire them. I got my first rifle by walking down to Sears and buying one. I was 14. Canadians can't do that now and most of them will abide by the law.



This sort of post is self defeating. It reveals an attachment to firearms that has nothing to do with logic and everything to do with emotion. I expect you were just blowing off steam, but it does nothing to strengthen your credibility.

Right.

And the gun banners are dealing with the subject rationally.

HA!

The ONLY solution to this is to ensure that the next killer runs into armed resistence, by setting up volunteers designated as armed first responders in every school, sending them to the NRA for training, getting them licensed, and allowing them to carry concealed. The "gun free zone" laws must fall, because they simply create kill zones.

It is a partial solution, but the 270 million guns in the USA are NOT going away, and to pretend that a magazine ban, or a licensing scheme, or some restriction on some type of weapon will stop these shootings is simply idiotic at best, completely irresponsible at worst.

Yet to speak of this logically is a rare rare thing, practically unheard of in the emotional uproar against inanimate objects.

 

[Kreskin]

270 million is a crisis, not the time to throw your hands in the air and give up. This is the equivalent of the fiscal cliff .. it's the murder and carnage cliff.

 

[taxslave]

270 million is a crisis, not the time to throw your hands in the air and give up. This is the equivalent of the fiscal cliff .. it's the murder and carnage cliff.

There is well over 300 million residents. That is not even one gun each. Hardly a gun culture.

 

[JLM]

There is well over 300 million residents. That is not even one gun each. Hardly a gun culture.

Well, it is probably three or four guns per family.

 

[L Gilbert]

A completely fallacious argument.

Flatout BS.

Any law can be broken, but that doesn't mean we should not have any laws.

Nor does your comment mean that criminals will follow rules.

For the most part Canadians don't own assault rifles or firearms in general is because the law says they shouldn't have them or makes it difficult to acquire them.

Uhuh Yet I can scoot to town and get an illegal firearm with no problem.

I got my first rifle by walking down to Sears and buying one. I was 14. Canadians can't do that now and most of them will abide by the law.

People can't do that now but they can beetle down to local gang and scoop one.

So tell me, what's keeping me from going squirrely and then shooting people? It sure as hell ain't rules. It's my stubbornness against going squirrely.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Right.

And the gun banners are dealing with the subject rationally.

HA!

The ONLY solution to this is to ensure that the next killer runs into armed resistence, by setting up volunteers designated as armed first responders in every school, sending them to the NRA for training, getting them licensed, and allowing them to carry concealed. The "gun free zone" laws must fall, because they simply create kill zones.

It is a partial solution, but the 270 million guns in the USA are NOT going away, and to pretend that a magazine ban, or a licensing scheme, or some restriction on some type of weapon will stop these shootings is simply idiotic at best, completely irresponsible at worst.

Yet to speak of this logically is a rare rare thing, practically unheard of in the emotional uproar against inanimate objects.

I am afraid like most of the gun obsessed you simply don't get it. The US has already tried the more guns solution and there is ample evidence of how well that has worked.

Here is a little history for you. I can remember identical arguments being made against seat belt use and anti-smoking laws. Opponents claimed that it was impossible to enforce such laws as the public would simply ignore them. Well, we know how that turned out. Generally speaking when a law is passed most people, even those opposed to it, will go along with the law. There will, of course, always be a few who defy the law, but over time they tend to either go away or become compliant.

And contrary to what you think a large number of Americans, probably even a majority, are tired of having their children murdered by some nut case who acquired his arsenal legally. There will be changes in US guns laws and they will be obeyed.