Mandatory long-form census restored by new Liberal government
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There were good reasons for discarding the long census. The number of people who refused to fill it out, false information, Privacy concerns.
The same people who protest C-51 for privacy concerns are willing to divulge their financial status, debt load, all kinds of personal information? Doesn't make sense.
People often give information that is entirely false anyway.
And what do you do with people who just flat out refuse it? Fine them, put them in jail? I don't think so.
A friend of mine was involved in the census process in a largely immigrant area of Toronto. She was totally frustrated with the people who didn't speak or read English or French, wouldn't accept the form and often slammed the door in her (and her partner's) faces.
Sometimes a family member would try to explain in translation that it had to be filled out and why but the home owner wouldn't do it.
So taking it all into consideration, along with the cost it seems like a lost cause. Government has other means of compiling the information they need via tax information etc. It shouldn't be too hard for them with everything now computerized.
Personal information used for marketing purposes is a form of advertising and stimulates sales to potential customers. That boosts the economy. Every little bit helps!
I'm not sure either but I don't think anyone can dispute that it would definitely reduce waste by spacing out resources where they are most needed and thinning them out where the need is sparser. One example would be planning for class rooms in the future or providing long term beds for disabled seniors in the future. I think there is a simple solution in that the information can be collected w/o having to have the person's name attached, just the postal code. I doubt if there is any system that is going to catch everyone.
Just full of stupid ideas. The only consolation is that people will be begging Harper to come back long before jr's first year is up. Before he takes away all our rights. Funny how the left is always against personal freedom but all in favor of their groupthink.
The long-form census is back – with penalties still possible if you ignore it
"Some Canadians have previously refused to fill out the census, but no one has ever been jailed for the offence. The overall response rate for the mandatory long-form census was 94 per cent in 2006."
I won't fill it out. Period.
"Some Canadians have previously refused to fill out the census, but no one has ever been jailed for the offence. The overall response rate for the mandatory long-form census was 94 per cent in 2006."
I won't fill it out. Period.
Not from the people that work and pay taxes. Most of us)MF excluded) don't like having our hard earned money stolen from us to be wasted.
I think the 1996 one was where we had 7 bedrooms and no bathroom with 12 people living in the house.
Last tome I got one I just left it blank and sent it back.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkYgb3_OSCw
Pierre Trudeau: "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation."
Justin Trudeau: "We want to know as much as we can about your bedroom, as well as the other rooms in your house."
Pierre Trudeau: "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation."
Justin Trudeau: "We want to know as much as we can about your bedroom, as well as the other rooms in your house."
I would question the wisdom of that. There's probably a dozen other ways of getting the information but they are all more costly. So why not just take 10 minutes of your precious time and give them what they want? It's not like they are after personal information, just things like how many at what location requiring what resources. Do you check for the boogey man under your bed every night?
Where and when did Justin say that?
"The advantage with the census is that not only does it [make] national provincial-level information, you can also drill down to the community level," said Wilf Falk.
On Thursday, the new Liberal government officially tossed out the national household survey the Conservatives brought in — a move Falk said is critical for decision makers.
He said the household survey didn't produce accurate data.
"Because of the overall lower response rate, what we ended up with was communities with no data published for them at all," Falk said.
"If you look at it like a data map, it looks like Swiss cheese with holes all over the place."
Manitoba's chief statistician thrilled long-form census is back - Manitoba - CBC News
On Thursday, the new Liberal government officially tossed out the national household survey the Conservatives brought in — a move Falk said is critical for decision makers.
He said the household survey didn't produce accurate data.
"Because of the overall lower response rate, what we ended up with was communities with no data published for them at all," Falk said.
"If you look at it like a data map, it looks like Swiss cheese with holes all over the place."
Manitoba's chief statistician thrilled long-form census is back - Manitoba - CBC News
Long form census only makes perfect sense and those who think otherwise should smarten up. It's instrumental in cash transfers to the provinces and municipalities. Need I say more?
Do they need to know your income, your ethnicity, your religion etc. etc. for that, or just the number of people in towns, provinces or territory?
How do you like filling that out..
www.statcan.gc.ca/imdb-bmdi/instrument/3901_Q2_V3-eng.pdf
If you want your religion, your ethniccommunity centres, your elderly family, your young family, your handicapped relatives, etc to be financially represented in your community, your town, your city, your district, your province.
city planning from all(gov't, private, not for prophet etc) involved require certain types of data to be able to make financially sound decisions.
It's why at Ikea and some others ask for your postal code. If lots of people of a certain type (Ikea shoppers as an example) are doing a lot of a particular something you may want to prepare, add to the budget or as in consumerism, open another locations to cash in and provide people the items they want to buy. and they pay tax on those items and that money goes to the gov't so...there are so many links and degrees of separation for this long form census.
city planning from all(gov't, private, not for prophet etc) involved require certain types of data to be able to make financially sound decisions.
It's why at Ikea and some others ask for your postal code. If lots of people of a certain type (Ikea shoppers as an example) are doing a lot of a particular something you may want to prepare, add to the budget or as in consumerism, open another locations to cash in and provide people the items they want to buy. and they pay tax on those items and that money goes to the gov't so...there are so many links and degrees of separation for this long form census.
Why should I do that for business, not only for free but paid for by my tax dollars to the government? At least for companies like Loblaw or Independent, I get something for filling out and allow them to scan my PC+ card....
It may not be much, but it's something.
Now, If they offered me some remuneration for filling out their damn census I would think about it instead they say it's against the law if I don't....
BTW at ikea or walmart or other store I rarely give my postal code....it all depends how I'm asked....
It may not be much, but it's something.
Now, If they offered me some remuneration for filling out their damn census I would think about it instead they say it's against the law if I don't....
BTW at ikea or walmart or other store I rarely give my postal code....it all depends how I'm asked....
I'm not sure about the ethnicity and religion, although they possibly do. Might want to estimate pork sales in the area.
Income, definitely - only way they can predict future income from taxes in an area. My ethnicity is English, my religion is Christian and my income is between $40,000 and $80,000, so there you have it.
Cutting off your nose to spite your face...
marketing can extrapolate your data from every purchase you make via credit card, debit transaction at every store.
the gov't data collection is for funding for community centres, seniors homes, mental health facilities, not for prophet organizations, how many pharmacies, liquor stores, access to medical equipment, etc
If they dont' know the demographic of the are, they can't financially plan for the best possible outcome.
marketing can extrapolate your data from every purchase you make via credit card, debit transaction at every store.
the gov't data collection is for funding for community centres, seniors homes, mental health facilities, not for prophet organizations, how many pharmacies, liquor stores, access to medical equipment, etc
If they dont' know the demographic of the are, they can't financially plan for the best possible outcome.