Mandatory long-form census restored by new Liberal government

DaSleeper

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Nope I believe in being remunerated for my troubles....I'll work for free for friends, but business can pay me or kiss my hairy äss!
 

Twila

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Nope I believe in being remunerated for my troubles....I'll work for free for friends, but business can pay me or kiss my hairy äss!

as well as gov't.

Cause you're missing the that business is getting all the informatin it needs from you ALREADY. EVERYTIME you purchase something by debit, by credit, on line etc.

The gov't however, gets the information it needs to plan communities, fund communities and the people in those communities from baby to death from surveys.

IF you're happy not having any of your needs met by gov't agencies, non prophet agencies, Medical agencies then fine. But note the distinction.
 

Curious Cdn

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as well as gov't.

Cause you're missing the that business is getting all the informatin it needs from you ALREADY. EVERYTIME you purchase something by debit, by credit, on line etc.

The gov't however, gets the information it needs to plan communities, fund communities and the people in those communities from baby to death from surveys.

IF you're happy not having any of your needs met by gov't agencies, non prophet agencies, Medical agencies then fine. But note the distinction.

The cool thing about prophet agencies is that they know what you needs are before you do.
 

mentalfloss

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All I get from this is your typical leftoid I know best condescension !
Have at it girl... you're batting 100 in that department!

Your post sounds condescending, not anything Twila wrote.

She was actually using reasons with evidence to back up her claim whereas you're just making dad posts.
 

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If you want your religion, your ethniccommunity centres, your elderly family, your young family, your handicapped relatives, etc to be financially represented in your community, your town, your city, your district, your province.

city planning from all(gov't, private, not for prophet etc) involved require certain types of data to be able to make financially sound decisions.


It's why at Ikea and some others ask for your postal code. If lots of people of a certain type (Ikea shoppers as an example) are doing a lot of a particular something you may want to prepare, add to the budget or as in consumerism, open another locations to cash in and provide people the items they want to buy. and they pay tax on those items and that money goes to the gov't so...there are so many links and degrees of separation for this long form census.
Great but why do I have TO LIST MY children who have a Japanese grandmother and an English grandmother as Irish Canadian and who does that help ? We like to consider ourselves Canadian >
 

taxslave

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as well as gov't.

Cause you're missing the that business is getting all the informatin it needs from you ALREADY. EVERYTIME you purchase something by debit, by credit, on line etc.

The gov't however, gets the information it needs to plan communities, fund communities and the people in those communities from baby to death from surveys.

IF you're happy not having any of your needs met by gov't agencies, non prophet agencies, Medical agencies then fine. But note the distinction.

How many bedrooms and bathrooms you have is non of the government's business.Besides they don't even have a box for outhouses.

as well as gov't.

Cause you're missing the that business is getting all the informatin it needs from you ALREADY. EVERYTIME you purchase something by debit, by credit, on line etc.

The gov't however, gets the information it needs to plan communities, fund communities and the people in those communities from baby to death from surveys.

IF you're happy not having any of your needs met by gov't agencies, non prophet agencies, Medical agencies then fine. But note the distinction.

Yes that must be why we have to do fund raisers,volunteer labour and apply for lottery grants to keep our community hall open. Same as our volunteer fire departments need to access lottery money for equipment.
 

JLM

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If you want your religion, your ethniccommunity centres, your elderly family, your young family, your handicapped relatives, etc to be financially represented in your community, your town, your city, your district, your province.

city planning from all(gov't, private, not for prophet etc) involved require certain types of data to be able to make financially sound decisions.


It's why at Ikea and some others ask for your postal code. If lots of people of a certain type (Ikea shoppers as an example) are doing a lot of a particular something you may want to prepare, add to the budget or as in consumerism, open another locations to cash in and provide people the items they want to buy. and they pay tax on those items and that money goes to the gov't so...there are so many links and degrees of separation for this long form census.

You got the right idea! :)
 

DaSleeper

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You got the right idea! :)
Have you heard of third party cookies,... that's a setting in IE under internet options>privacy> advanced.
All web sites have them, and some sites will not work if you disable them, but third party cookies buy the right from different web sites to "tag" along and monitor your surfing for different reasons eg.(To know what type of advertising to put on there own web site)
If you have ever gone on youtube, to listen to some jazz for example and later shut down your PC without cleaning up your cache and cookies...the next time you open up you tube, you would find all jazz videos on the page you open up instead of the regular mix.
That's what regular web page cookies do.....and that's OKay
But third party cookies from sites I don't even use...? Well that's different... I block them ...on principle
The government's different branches has all the information they need from my drivers license, hunting license, heath card, passport, so does my bank card, credit card etc.
For each of those, it is illegal for them to swap information with each other or divulge anything without a court order. and that's Okay

And now the government want's me to put a lot of that info....and more on a form that every tom, dïck, and Harry can access?
No thank you very much....
 

Twila

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The cool thing about prophet agencies is that they know what you needs are before you do.

lol. I need spell check.

Great but why do I have TO LIST MY children who have a Japanese grandmother and an English grandmother as Irish Canadian and who does that help ? We like to consider ourselves Canadian >

Because then Canada can say where it's people have come from. When your grandkids look back at archived information for a school project they'll be able to get stats on how many people come from Japanese heritage. how many come from Indian heritage (From India, not First Nations)

If you go to the Wikipage on Canada it talks about where it's people have come from and approx how many in any give year.

It might be nice for those Canadians in 100 years from now to see just what ethnic diversity makes up the canadian population.

It's not meant to make your family feel less Canadian. It's to make those who maybe don't feel Canadian enough see that Canada has all types of people calling themselves Canadian.

How many bedrooms and bathrooms you have is non of the government's business.Besides they don't even have a box for outhouses.



Yes that must be why we have to do fund raisers,volunteer labour and apply for lottery grants to keep our community hall open. Same as our volunteer fire departments need to access lottery money for equipment.

Maybe you could add outhouse to your form? lol.

Who runs the lottery that gives money to your volunteer fire department? How are they going to know how much funding is needed if they don't have an accurate data on how many live in your community?
 

JLM

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Because then Canada can say where it's people have come from. When your grandkids look back at archived information for a school project they'll be able to get stats on how many people come from Japanese heritage. how many come from Indian heritage (From India, not First Nations)

If you go to the Wikipage on Canada it talks about where it's people have come from and approx how many in any give year.

It might be nice for those Canadians in 100 years from now to see just what ethnic diversity makes up the canadian population.

And for more important reasons such as some diseases are more prevalent among certain races, so the medical people can be armed in advance knowing where these diseases are likely to crop up and in what numbers.
 

Corduroy

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The same people who protest C-51 for privacy concerns are willing to divulge their financial status, debt load, all kinds of personal information? Doesn't make sense.

The census and C-51 collect different kinds of information. The information taken from the census is significantly less intrusive than C-51. It would make perfect sense if you actually compared the two with informed knowledge of both.
 

Corduroy

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lol. I need spell check.



Because then Canada can say where it's people have come from. When your grandkids look back at archived information for a school project they'll be able to get stats on how many people come from Japanese heritage. how many come from Indian heritage (From India, not First Nations)

If you go to the Wikipage on Canada it talks about where it's people have come from and approx how many in any give year.

It might be nice for those Canadians in 100 years from now to see just what ethnic diversity makes up the canadian population.

It's not meant to make your family feel less Canadian. It's to make those who maybe don't feel Canadian enough see that Canada has all types of people calling themselves Canadian.

Hundreds of years from now, future generations will be looking at the 21st century census and there will be a huge gap in the last ten years. There's a similar historical gap in records between the fall of the Roman empire and the Middle Ages. It's called the Dark Ages for that reason.
 

Curious Cdn

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Google and Facebook know many times more about you than Stats-Can. The guys (almost all guys) who killed the long form census crying "FREEDOM" aren't exactly "current". They had no moral issues with reading your E-mail, though. "If you're not for the police reading your E-mail, you must be with the child molesters!"

Whatever happened to old Vic, anyway? Which oil company did he end up working for?