Long Gun Registry -Yes- No
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How about you posting a thread on drug penalties - repeat users - repeat conviction - Police Blood tests based upon reasoanble suspicion when involved in an accident or worse?
You have the smarts?????
It's an intriguing place. They're seriously armed, and they make no bones about it, yet they can be curiously progressive.
They were the first jurisdiction in north America to grant women the vote, without much brouhaha. The women said "We want to vote", the guys said "Really?", the women said "Yes", so the guys shrugged and said "Okay".
Also, little things like, all commercial buildings have to spend a small percentage (I think it's 3%) of the construction budget on art. Wyoming cowboys like good art.
Although it's the fourth largest state, their total population is only around 500,000. The big city is Cheyenne with 80,000 people. The whole state is on a plateau with an average altitude of 6000 feet, which means it has a crummier climate than any part of southern Canada, but they don't care, because they see it as a deterrent to being over-run by Californians. Plus they have some of the most progressive native reserves on the continent.
Their state-wide average level of literacy is ranked as one of the highest in the union, and... they're all armed to the *teeth*!
It's an interesting place.
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baloney.
It makes people more accountable for their guns....which translated means if some poor sap gets robbed, we can charge him.
And when we decide we want to seize a class for no particular reason, and without compensation, we know where to find (some of) them.
(and yes, this has happened SEVERAL times, both cases)
Nobody that has dealt extensively with this system is under the slightest delusion about its "efficiency"
Got a week? I could start telling horror stories.
The RCMP investigating themselves, again
Sometimes I wonder if gun registry isn't just a slippery way of estimating their chances once they've finally pee'd enough people off....
Wyoming may be a unique case as the state has such a low population density. Only about 500,000 people live in the state. Compare this to the United Kingdom with about 60 million living in an area about the same size. Even the largest city, Cheyenne, with under 60,000 people hardly qualifies as much more than a large town by the standards of Canada and the US. The largely rural nature of most of the state no doubt helps keep crime and the murder rate down.
Interestingly, the UK with very strict gun control laws has a murder rate lower than Wyoming at 1.4 per thousand.
Here is a ranking of states by murder rate.
Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center
I am not sure what can be made out of these statistics if anything unless a state by state analysis was conducted.
If you wish to conduct a state by state analysis this might help.
Gun laws in the United States (by state) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well, it's an interesting place; it seems to be full of paradoxes, but yeah, the low population density combined with a climate harsher than southern Canada might have a lot to do with that. The fact that they were the first jurisdiction in north American to give women the vote might be an affect of that, i.e., maybe they didn't have enough votes to achieve statehood unless they let women vote.
They're cowboys, yet they require commercial buildings to support the arts. I used to hear more classical music than country music coming out of their stereos while they were cleaning their rifles. Their demands on education standards puts them among the front runners for literacy yet they supported Dick Cheney. They're anti-abortion, yet they were decades ahead of other states for making birth control, in particular condoms, cheep and easy to get. They have a strong Mormon presence, yet they are unimaginably defensive of religious tolerance. Mostly they just seem to think the rest of the union is nuts, and they like Canadians, but they go ballistic when seals get slapped on their weapons at the border and they're ordered to store them in the trunk.
I think it's kind of interesting that North Dakota has an even lower murder rate - lower than Canada's - when, like Wyoming, it's very liberal about gun ownership, and I remember reading a study once saying that Louisiana had the highest murder rate above the Rio Grand, but that second was Nunavut; also a place with a harsh climate and a thin population.
Who wants to bet that RCMP would say that the peccadillos of the gun registry make sense if you've ever been posted to Nunavut. Maybe it should be made a provincial issue.
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I am not sure if there is a pattern in the US. Densely populated states like Massachussetts have a low murder rate, but just a short distance away Delaware is quite high. I do notice that most of the high ranking states seem to be in the US south. There may be something there. I'll leave it up to someone else to tell me what.
Sorry for the side-track here, but what? Harsher? I'd believe harsher than southern BC, but
southern Canada? This is the province where I live, & it's record highs & lows.
-56.7c = -70F
+45c = 113F
Spread= 183F (& that's just my home province)
Vrs Wyoming with:
High of 115F
Low of -66F
Spread= 181F
Whatever though. Anyway...back to the Topic of the Long Gun Registry.
Saskatchewan doesn't count. South-west Saskatchewan is the only part of Canada where my Wyoming relatives feel at home.
I have relatives who sold their land in Wyoming and relocated to north-east BC because it seem so verdant by comparison... you know, as in a place to retire. Although the health-care might have had something to do with it.
And no, they did not register their guns... partly because the idea was abhorrent to them, and partly because their new neighbors told them to act like they'd never heard of such a thing.
I read an American study once where they were trying to figure out why their Old South region is so violent, and yes, there's the poverty, but among the whites, the study traced it back to the kind of Europeans who settled there.
The northern states were originally colonized by people who'd voluntarily moved there for betterment of life, but a huge percentage of the white settlers of the Old South were bad-tempered Scots and Irish hooligans.
England forced settlement of that hot, muggy, mosquito, snake, and alligator infested swampland region with Scottish and Irish misfits and malcontents, pushed onto a boat and dropped there in order to reduce crime back home and to lay British claim to stop Spanish from moving up the Florida peninsula.
A lot of the Scottish were Jacobites, who'd lost their war against England under Bonny Prince Charley, and so were forced to settle there as part of the war reparations, leading to plaid-shirted Billy Joe MacCalisters jumping off the Talahachi Bridge.
So, American demographers ascribe the tendency towards violence in the Old South to a combination of captured African warriors forced into slavery - and then poverty - mixed in with short-fused Irish and bad-tempered Scots... the kind of Celts who would force a perfectly civilized folk like the Cherokee into a long-march of exile for no reason other than because the bad Celts were too short-tempered and low on the IQ stack to figure out what the Cherokee were talking about in negotiations.
Given a choice between a place that's idiotically hot, humid and mosquito infested in the summer - before invention of air conditioning - versus a location that's frozen in the winter, anybody would have chosen the frozen winter, unless you're Canadian, in which case you build your capital city in the Ottawa valley so you can get both.
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You took the words out of my mouth. More people are killed with kitchen knives. :smile::smile: