Liberals are considering a guaranteed income for all Canadians

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Japan's debt is three times that of Greece's but they are doing fine because it's internal.


They are also good for it. The Japanese are creative, inventive and capable of great things. The Greeks are living for the next siesta.
 

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Japan's debt is three times that of Greece's but they are doing fine because it's internal.


They are also good for it. The Japanese are creative, inventive and capable of great things. The Greeks are living for the next siesta.

Yes the Japanese government invests heavily in infrastructure and GDP growth.
 

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It's the debt to GDP ratio you need to look out for.

Also, debt is not as worrying if it's domestic.

Japan's debt is three times that of Greece's but they are doing fine because it's internal.

The problems begin when you sign free trade deals and countries like China and Mexico or Saudi Arabia are part of the deal.

That is hilarious.. Really
 

Jinentonix

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Starting with our Health Care, so do Canadians..

Still think we need a co-pay or user fee added per visit with Health Care, $25 Doctor Visit, $50 Urgent Care, $100 Emergency visit.
On behalf of Ontarians who pay taxes, including the Liberal's unconstitutional health care tax, I encourage you to go f*ck yourself.
 

MHz

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Wrong question.........................Why should people who refuse to work have such things?
To know how many are refusing to work the unemployment figure would have to become a negative number and it is anything but that. How about you get laid off and then answer the question
 

JamesBondo

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With unemployement, one is expected to be ready, willing and capable of working. this is a good ethic to instill into young adults

Are we going to ruin this by setting the minimum income too high compared to a walmart earned EI benefit?
 

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To know how many are refusing to work the unemployment figure would have to become a negative number and it is anything but that. How about you get laid off and then answer the question


What has "getting laid off" have to do with refusing to work?

I guess the main over riding thing wrong with a guaranteed income is the Gov't. is running the show instead of the market place!
 

MHz

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What has "getting laid off" have to do with refusing to work?
The part you would find impossible is replacing that job with another one, then you get classified as 'refusing to work'. That concept seems to not part of your thinking process. With a 10% unemployment rate you have 10% of the work force looking for jobs that are not there, that is not 'refusing to work' as you and others here try and promote.

With unemployement, one is expected to be ready, willing and capable of working. this is a good ethic to instill into young adults
Try getting the rate down to 0% and see how many young Canadians don't want to work at any job.
 

JamesBondo

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The part you would find impossible is replacing that job with another one, then you get classified as 'refusing to work'. That concept seems to not part of your thinking process. With a 10% unemployment rate you have 10% of the work force looking for jobs that are not there, that is not 'refusing to work' as you and others here try and promote.

In 2013 (link), there were 6.4 unemployed people for every available job. Those are good odds for someone that really wants to get a job. The number varies for each province. In Nova Scotia, there were 10 umemployed for every available job (still pretty good odds), and in Alberta there were 2.4 unemployed people for every available job ( that is awesome!)

Try getting the rate down to 0% and see how many young Canadians don't want to work at any job.

While I can appreciate the outcome that you would like to accomplish here, realistically, the rate will never be 0%, it has never been 0% during booming economies. Personally, I'm not sure we would want an economy where new positions can not be filled.
 

JLM

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The part you would find impossible is replacing that job with another one, then you get classified as 'refusing to work'. That concept seems to not part of your thinking process. With a 10% unemployment rate you have 10% of the work force looking for jobs that are not there, that is not 'refusing to work' as you and others here try and promote.


You worry about "the others" and I'll worry about myself! :)
 

MHz

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You aren't very good at math are you. 6.4 people chasing 1 job has you putting 5.4 people as not wanting to work becaise only 1 person who gets the job is the only one that really wants to work. The same applies to your other numbers also, 1.4 people in AB is deemed (by you) as not wanting to work because they didn't get the 1 job that was available.

I used 0% as the point at which you could begin to label people as not wanting to work. Perhaps you should look at Kuwait where the 'servants' are all imported from other nations simple because the citizens do not want to do that work and they can afford to turn it down as they get money from the gov, welfare for everybody for lack of a better term.
Perhaps the proposed income should be for Canadians with a Canadian birth certificate so people like Bloomer are disqualified as he is here through a marriage of convenience. (his own words in a post made some time ago)

You worry about "the others" and I'll worry about myself! :)
Afraid to answer the question? (not a huge surprise)
 

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In 2013 (link), there were 6.4 unemployed people for every available job. Those are good odds for someone that really wants to get a job. The number varies for each province. In Nova Scotia, there were 10 umemployed for every available job (still pretty good odds), and in Alberta there were 2.4 unemployed people for every available job ( that is awesome!)



While I can appreciate the outcome that you would like to accomplish here, realistically, the rate will never be 0%, it has never been 0% during booming economies. Personally, I'm not sure we would want an economy where new positions can not be filled.

Even now that is happening because too many young people decided to take schooling that has little chance of leading to employment instead of learning skills required for good paying jobs.
 

MHz

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Even now that is happening because too many young people decided to take schooling that has little chance of leading to employment instead of learning skills required for good paying jobs.
You are actually quite stupid in real life aren't you>

The infrastructure that keeps being destroyed by quakes?
Think of all the money they spent when it is now found out that radiation on a large scale is actually good for you.