Kinder Morgan Pipeline

Twin_Moose

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First Nations have the the same right to decide issues in their own countries that Canadians have to decide in theirs.

and there's no need to wonder about it. its all spelled out in black and white

http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/DRIPS_en.pdf

Bahahaha did you actually read the document? Indigenous persons of the world have the right to live and let live without without discrimination, racism, and restrictions put on them. Nothing in there says anything about 2 different countries within 1 country or 2 different federal governments.
 

JLM

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First Nations have the the same right to decide issues in their own countries that Canadians have to decide in theirs.

and there's no need to wonder about it. its all spelled out in black and white

http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/DRIPS_en.pdf

Don't you think we should all be Canadians and this ethnicity shit be set aside. Ethnicity may be handy when looking into traits or physical abilities, for everything else it's pure unadulterated bull shit. One exception I've noticed is when it comes to common sense and sagacity, indigenous people may have an edge on those of European descent.
 

Hoid

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Bahahaha did you actually read the document? Indigenous persons of the world have the right to live and let live without without discrimination, racism, and restrictions put on them. Nothing in there says anything about 2 different countries within 1 country or 2 different federal governments.
I said to read it.

What I meant was to understand it.

Sorry. My bad.
 

Mowich

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First Nations have the the same right to decide issues in their own countries that Canadians have to decide in theirs.

and there's no need to wonder about it. its all spelled out in black and white

http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/DRIPS_en.pdf

"Encouraging States to comply with and effectively implement all their obligations as they apply to indigenous peoples under international instruments, in particular those related to human rights, in consultation and cooperation with the peoples concerned,

Emphasizing that the United Nations has an important and continuing role to play in promoting and protecting the rights of indigenous
peoples, ..."

There is a difference between encouraging/emphasizing and enforcing. The UN has no powers to enforce this declaration. Have you even bothered to read the document? If so, the list of issues that should be addressed, according to the UN, is all but endless and most of them are very complicated and take time to resolve. Though Canada did sign on and has been working to resolve the issues raised, we are under no legal and binding obligation to do so.

Article 46
1. Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, people, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act contrary to the Charter of the United Nations or construed as authorizing or encouraging any action which would dismember or impair, totally or in part, the territorial integrity or political unity of sovereign and independent States.

2. In the exercise of the rights enunciated in the present Declaration, human rights and fundamental freedoms of all shall be respected. The exercise of the rights set forth in this Declaration shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law and in accordance with international human rights obligations. Any such limitations shall be non-discriminatory and strictly necessary solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and for meeting the just and most compelling requirements of a democratic society.
 

Dixie Cup

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I heard on the radio that the BC Premier is looking at taking Alberta to court under a Constitutional challenge because Alberta has just passed a law for it to be able to decrease the flow of certain fuels to BC. Guess the Constitution is only good as long as it works in ones favor. That does not bod well for our country, that's for sure.


Too bad the BC Premier didn't do his due diligence in actually reading what the NEB reviewed (for years and years) and what TMX had to do in order to build this pipeline. He really doesn't know what he's talking about, but then again, when it comes to money, who cares right Mr. Premier??


JMHO
 

JLM

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I heard on the radio that the BC Premier is looking at taking Alberta to court under a Constitutional challenge because Alberta has just passed a law for it to be able to decrease the flow of certain fuels to BC. Guess the Constitution is only good as long as it works in ones favor. That does not bod well for our country, that's for sure.


Too bad the BC Premier didn't do his due diligence in actually reading what the NEB reviewed (for years and years) and what TMX had to do in order to build this pipeline. He really doesn't know what he's talking about, but then again, when it comes to money, who cares right Mr. Premier??


JMHO

Rachel Notley has it right and our buffoon has it all wrong. He doesn't care where his votes come from. He just backs all the drones and parasites because they listen to him. When our prices sky rocket and they start whining at least I'll have one thing to laugh about as sad as it is. Ironically it's a miracle that Trudeau is doing the right thing.
 

captain morgan

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I heard on the radio that the BC Premier is looking at taking Alberta to court under a Constitutional challenge because Alberta has just passed a law for it to be able to decrease the flow of certain fuels to BC. Guess the Constitution is only good as long as it works in ones favor. That does not bod well for our country, that's for sure.


Too bad the BC Premier didn't do his due diligence in actually reading what the NEB reviewed (for years and years) and what TMX had to do in order to build this pipeline. He really doesn't know what he's talking about, but then again, when it comes to money, who cares right Mr. Premier??


JMHO

Well, I guess that between the actual Court proceedings and the various appeals to follow, this issue will be solved in 10 - 15 years

If that happens expect all the bands along the KinderMorgan route to sue BC forest loss of revenue.

Wouldn't that be the height of irony
 

Twin_Moose

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Nomadic bands with no accumulated wealth?

In BC?

My God you are one ignorant white man.

Where the Interior First Canadian's living in town's and farming or did they move around to track their food supply? Did they have a permanent residence they returned to after successfully harvesting their food supply?

I agree the Native's that lived along the coast built permanent structures and set up villages with housing, here we have evidence of an argument for land entitlement and accumulated wealth.