Kinder Morgan Pipeline

gerryh

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Aren't they "cousins"?



Yup, but one you get high on and the other is used for a myriad of different things, from rope to plastic replacement. They are NOT the same...... but.... I see from having to explain this very basic fact that you are as ignorant as hoid.
 

JLM

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Yup, but one you get high on and the other is used for a myriad of different things, from rope to plastic replacement. They are NOT the same...... but.... I see from having to explain this very basic fact that you are as ignorant as hoid.

You say it like it's a bad thing. Ignorance can be the first step to knowledge! :lol: (Actually I already knew that much) I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

This deserves a repost... Interesting find gerry

Sewage from Greater Vancouver and Greater Victoria is Georgia Strait’s number one pollution threat
http://www.bucksuzuki.org/images/uploads/docs/Hidden_Killer.pdf

Juan de Fuca Strait in Victoria's case!

Why isn't our illustrious Prime Minister ensuring Kinder Morgan RIGHT NOW that the pipeline will definitely go ahead? Kind of telling isn't it? Methinks he'll likely flip flop his way out of this endeavour!

Glad I was wrong on that prediction! That wasn't nice!
 

Cliffy

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Quebec warns Trudeau about Kinder Morgan

Quebec's Canadian relations minister has penned a letter warning Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government to tread carefully around its approach to Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain expansion project.
In the letter, published on Saturday in Montreal daily, La Presse, Jean-Marc Fournier suggested that Quebec would never accept a project if the federal government tried to ram it down the province's throat as it now appears to be doing in British Columbia.
"The recent statements made by federal representatives regarding the Trans Mountain pipeline, evoking the explicit application of federal rules don't help resolve this file and they are concerning for the future," wrote Fournier, a veteran politician who has previously worked as a high-ranking political advisor to the federal Liberals.
Fournier said the current federal position encourages companies to "ignore provincial environmental regulations" that have been established to protect the public and those affected by industrial projects.
Even though interprovincial pipelines fall under federal jurisdiction, the Quebec minister in Premier Philippe Couillard's Liberal government, said that Trudeau's approach was running counter to cooperative federalism.
"The federal government should instead collaborate with the affected provincial governments and agree on a joint assessment process that ensures respect for each province's jurisdiction, as well as the democratic choices made by all Canadians," Fournier said in the letter.
Earlier this week, Couillard also said that the federal government's approach was not a good sign for Canadian federalism.


http://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/04/14/news/quebec-warns-trudeau-about-kinder-morgan
 

taxslave

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Bullshit.

No, it is a fact. What is left out is that Canada is not the part of the world that this works. Much like solar power and electric cars.

It is so discouraging to watch our federal government set up the marijuana business in their typically stupid way.

They are licensing these ridiculous indoor ops when a single prairie farmer could grow enough pot in a year to supply the world.

Fortunately most people will never buy pot from the government. It is enough to decriminalize it such that normal people can grow their pot in their own gardens for their own use.

As other subject which you know absolutely less than nothing about.
 

taxslave

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This deserves a repost... Interesting find gerry

Sewage from Greater Vancouver and Greater Victoria is Georgia Strait’s number one pollution threat
http://www.bucksuzuki.org/images/uploads/docs/Hidden_Killer.pdf

According to the Victoria citizens their shit is not the problem. It is all the fault of that 20 man logging camp in the Broughtons.

Quebec warns Trudeau about Kinder Morgan

Quebec's Canadian relations minister has penned a letter warning Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government to tread carefully around its approach to Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain expansion project.
In the letter, published on Saturday in Montreal daily, La Presse, Jean-Marc Fournier suggested that Quebec would never accept a project if the federal government tried to ram it down the province's throat as it now appears to be doing in British Columbia.
"The recent statements made by federal representatives regarding the Trans Mountain pipeline, evoking the explicit application of federal rules don't help resolve this file and they are concerning for the future," wrote Fournier, a veteran politician who has previously worked as a high-ranking political advisor to the federal Liberals.
Fournier said the current federal position encourages companies to "ignore provincial environmental regulations" that have been established to protect the public and those affected by industrial projects.
Even though interprovincial pipelines fall under federal jurisdiction, the Quebec minister in Premier Philippe Couillard's Liberal government, said that Trudeau's approach was running counter to cooperative federalism.
"The federal government should instead collaborate with the affected provincial governments and agree on a joint assessment process that ensures respect for each province's jurisdiction, as well as the democratic choices made by all Canadians," Fournier said in the letter.
Earlier this week, Couillard also said that the federal government's approach was not a good sign for Canadian federalism.


http://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/04/14/news/quebec-warns-trudeau-about-kinder-morgan

Like anyone cares what Quebec thinks.Just cut off their transfer payments.

Or better yet run the pipeline around them through the US.

Or better yet run the pipeline around them through the US
 

captain morgan

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Quebec warns Trudeau about Kinder Morgan

Quebec's Canadian relations minister

Stpooed reading right there.

... Was laughing far to hard to go on

According to the Victoria citizens their shit is not the problem. It is all the fault of that 20 man logging camp in the Broughtons.

Sad and pathetic

Like anyone cares what Quebec thinks.Just cut off their transfer payments.

Or better yet run the pipeline around them through the US.

Or better yet run the pipeline around them through the US

Solve this problem easily enough... Hudson's Bay has the facilities.

All those folks that don'twant oil or nat gas can source it elsewhere, especially Burnaby and YVR
 

petros

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No, it is a fact. What is left out is that Canada is not the part of the world that this works. Much like solar power and electric cars.



As other subject which you know absolutely less than nothing about.

No, it's bullshit. Flax outperforms hemp. Hemp is either oil seed or fibre hemp. Flax produces both.
 

Cliffy

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In Major Shift In First Nations Relations, 3 White People Meet In Upper Canada To Discuss Their Land




In a move that ushers in a new chapter in the federal government’s longstanding commitment to pretending to listen to Indigenous peoples, before doing whatever it feels is best for the political survival of whomever is currently in power, three white people will meet in Upper Canada today to discuss whether or not to put another pipeline on First Nations’ land.
“We have listened carefully to the esteemed people of the Secwepemc nation,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said, referring to the tribe whose land Kinder Morgan intends to run 518 kilometres of oil pipeline through, with or without their consent. “We listened so carefully, in fact, that they don’t need to be here today to take part in these discussions, as that would be redundant. As well as potentially awkward when we outright ignore them.”
“New chapter?” Responds Kanahus Manuel, a noted activist from the Secwepemc nation. “More like a run-on sentence. What’s the book called anyway? How To Win Elections And Ignore Indigenous People?”
While there will always be some people who won’t be happy with having bitumen piped through their land and shipped along their coasts with 100% surety of a major spill at some stage, many in the federal government are pointing to the positives to be found in this particular instance of ignoring the concerns of Canada’s original inhabitants.


http://outabouter.com/2018/04/15/in-major-shift-in-first-nations-relations-3-white-people-meet-in-upper-canada-to-discuss-their-land/
 

Hoid

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Trudeau has calculated that there will be more support across the country than there will be opposition, and he is probably right, but the opposition from Quebec is going to give him great pause.

Trying to frame an argument as in the National Interest will not pass muster in La Belle province, where all arguments of this sort are ultimately decided.

The voters and First Nations of BC can easily be swept aside but the voters of Quebec not so much.The Liberals will have some splaining to do.
 

captain morgan

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Funny how that works, ain't it.

All the same, the elders in my family passed along from generation to generation going back about 2 million generations that all of the land in the world belongs to me.

... So, ummm, how do I say this nicely... Get the fukk out!
 

Hoid

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Especially all this crap that they are spewing when they get caught poaching on private land that it is shared land for everyone ;) I heard they found a deed in a cave and according to it that all the BC land belongs to Mexico.
I hear Canada has agreed at the UN to recognize the inherent rights of First Nations - for once.
 

Cliffy

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Kinder Morgan’s Blackmail

Notley and Trudeau hint at propping up uneconomic pipeline with taxpayers’ money.




Kinder Morgan’s decision to suspend work on its controversial $7.4-billion Trans Mountain pipeline looks like another corporate attempt to blackmail Canadian governments.
On Sunday the Texas-based company, which emerged from the ashes of scandal-ridden Enron, abruptly announced it was suspending all “non-essential” work on the export pipeline.
Steve Kean, CEO of Kinder Morgan Canada, blamed the B.C. government for the suspension — even though the National Energy Board has not approved construction for any portion of the project but the Westridge marine terminal in Burnaby.
Even Kinder Morgan has repeatedly acknowledged the reality of setbacks in presentations to investors, citing “a potential unmitigated project delay to December 2020” as recently as last month.


http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/04/11/Kinder-Morgan-Blackmail/
 

petros

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And SK. We just borrowed $600M last week to "invest".

How much will Horgan be chucking in?

You'll be an owner and benefactor of the pipeline.

How does that make you feel?