Khadr to get 10.5 million payment for treason.

gerryh

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And some people have made up their simple minds that Khadr is innocent as a newborn lamb and no possible proof will change their mind


Nothing has been proven. He's already stated that if he could change things, he would. The settlement, which is what this thread is about, has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence.
 

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And some people have made up their simple minds that Khadr is innocent as a newborn lamb and no possible proof will change their mind

Khadr's guilt or innocence is irrelevant. He got the money because asswipes like you ignored his rights.
 

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Nothing has been proven. He's already stated that if he could change things, he would. The settlement, which is what this thread is about, has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence.


Not to mention that the title of the thread is grossly inaccurate to stir up a few emotions. A more accurate title might be "Khadr may be lucky to get a small fraction of $10.5 million" :) :)

And some people have made up their simple minds that Khadr is innocent as a newborn lamb and no possible proof will change their mind


I don't think so. I think most of us are just not sure or convinced of what degree of guilt or innocence he should bear. Of course some won't be swayed......................Colpy comes to mind somehow.
 

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I feel many could not care less about legal eagle wrangling or deal making that allowed khadr to slither back to the safe haven his clan fought against. What really steams em is our patsy pm donating our tax dollars to compensate the clan cause americans bagged ahmads' successor. If jean had not sprung daddy one medic could still be tending wounds and libs'd have $10mil more to blow on their ain't no boys or girls initiative.... nothing new start to finish one more lib fiasco.
 

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Not to mention that the title of the thread is grossly inaccurate to stir up a few emotions. A more accurate title might be "Khadr may be lucky to get a small fraction of $10.5 million" :) :)

Well, lawyers are lawyers. Our government (the Lieberal one) ignored the rightful claim of the American widow of the man this particular a-s-s-wipe murdered and paid the slimy bastard directly. But like I said, they probably did so via his lawyers so I am sure they will get their share. But unlike your claim, he has already got his ill-gotten gain.
 

gerryh

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Well, lawyers are lawyers. Our government (the Lieberal one) ignored the rightful claim of the American widow of the man this particular a-s-s-wipe murdered and paid the slimy bastard directly. But like I said, they probably did so via his lawyers so I am sure they will get their share. But unlike your claim, he has already got his ill-gotten gain.


I'll ask you, aside from the coerced guilty plea, what evidence do you have that he killed anyone.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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I'll ask you, aside from the coerced guilty plea, what evidence do you have that he killed anyone.

The widow has been granted a civil case victory. All money going to khadar should have gone to her based upon that case. There is an application before the courts to enforce that. Our government chose to give him the money quickly to avoid that.

If you are over there throwing grenades at the soldiers of your allies, that it is possible you may have killed one of them. Proof enough for me as I am not a court of law.
 

DaSleeper

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And some people in this forum have made up their simple minds that Khadr is innocent as a newborn lamb and no possible proof will change their mind...
Canadian courts can make mistakes both ways....a lot of people believe that in this case a liberal court mistake favored Khadr
 
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And some people in this forum have made up their simple minds that Khadr is innocent as a newborn lamb and no possible proof will change their mind...
Canadian courts can make mistakes both ways....a lot of people believe that in this case a liberal court mistake favored Khadr



The settlement is not about his guilt or innocence.
 

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Actually, his lawyers have stated repeatedly that the only reason for the confession was to get out of gitmo. That was the deal. Plead guilty and we will send you home. Now, if that isn't a text book definition of coercion............

The civil suit found the same result.... Buddy wasn't in Gitmo then so either they didn't buy into Omar's acting skills or (wait for it) the evidence showed that he was, in fact, guilty.

If there is any doubt you're welcome to rebut this:



Some people have made up their minds that Omar is guilty of everything he's accused of, regardless of the fact they most weren't there when the alleged events took place. I don't f**king know what and if he's guilty of or not guilty of, but I do know in Canada you are innocent until proven guilty. For MOST crimes there comes a time when you are given a chance to resume a normal life!

The fact is that you weren't there, in person, sitting alongside dear Omar either.... So what gives your opinion more credence than anyone else's?

... And again, the law, process, etc in Canada is irrelevant considering the crime occurred in Afghanistan.

You really need to get your head around the notion that just 'cause you're Canadian doesn't mean those exact laws follow you around the world and get applied in other countries
 

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Most Guantanamo detainees are innocent: ex-Bush official

Many detainees locked up in Guantanamo Bay were innocent men swept up by U.S. forces unable to distinguish enemies from noncombatants, a former Bush administration official said Thursday.

"There are still innocent people there," Republican Lawrence B. Wilkerson, former chief of staff to then-secretary of state Colin Powell, told the Associated Press. "Some have been there six or seven years."

Wilkerson, who first made the assertions in an internet posting on Tuesday, told the AP he learned from briefings and by communicating with military commanders that the U.S. soon realized many detainees held at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were innocent but nevertheless held them in hopes they could provide information for a "mosaic" of intelligence.

"It did not matter if a detainee were innocent. Indeed, because he lived in Afghanistan and was captured on or near the battle area, he must know something of importance," Wilkerson wrote in the blog.

He said intelligence analysts hoped to gather "sufficient information about a village, a region, or a group of individuals, that dots could be connected and terrorists or their plots could be identified."

Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel, said vetting on the battlefield during the early stages of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan was incompetent with no meaningful attempt to discriminate "who we were transporting to Cuba for detention and interrogation."
Most Guantanamo detainees are innocent: ex-Bush official - World - CBC News

there is the real problem
 

Decapoda

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So, you think that Canadian courts should automatically enforce civil suits in the USA? What about other countries? What other countries should have jurisdiction over Canada?
And yet there are those who think that Canada should have demanded the US hand him over or go bust down the door and take him home. Crazy, isn't it?

The settlement, which is what this thread is about, has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence.
No, the settlement must be about the Liberals appeasing their guilty conscience for not doing anything to help poor Omar out for the first 4 years of incarceration at gitmo.
 

DaSleeper

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For those that are logic challenged...I will reiterate in a simple way so that they can understand..
Khadr is captured by the American Army.....


He spends years in Gitmo, an American prison...


He is then transferred to an American mainland jail...


Canada gets him transferred to a Canadian jail where he is eventually set free.....


Who does he turn around and sue?.....Canada


Only logically challenged people, can see justice in that....

I can only hope that the widow manages to freeze that money forever......
 

Twila

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you forgot the fact that he was and is a CANADIAN citizen...

probably a small over sight I'm sure...

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