Khadr to get 10.5 million payment for treason.
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Kadr was not born in Canada but later became a canadian.
Canada should not be so smug to think that someone that has dual citizenship wants to be dragged back to a Canadian prison.
The Canadian embassy and the embassy of his birthplace should have worked together on this one. Atleast until Khadr had a legal representative.
So i don't get it. I don't even see how these compare. Khadr went to war against his own countrymen. What if someone had joined the Nazis because they felt they were ethically and morally superior to Canada's coddling of 'Jews and Socialists' in WW2. He'd have ended up at the end of a gibbet. The place for arguments of this sort is the political organs of your own government and definitely not picking up a weapon and declaring jihad on your own military. Rewarding him for treason is simply unbelievable.
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It's irrelevant, except as some legal device. Canada was acting within the auspices of UN and Allied agreements as a combatant and within its own and international laws. Khadr put himself outside those laws and should be judged accordingly.
A declaration of war does not preclude a treasonous act. Treason is defined as an act of betraying the loyalty of one's own country, and does include assisting an enemy at war with Canada or any armed force against whom Canadian forces are engaged in hostilities, even if no state of war exists.
Treason is never irrelevant to those with any regard to the strength, security, and patriotism of the nation to which they belong. It is also a felony offense to which conviction is life in prison.
At what age?
As far as I'm concerned, the legal age of maturity should be lowered to 15. But there's a difference between what I think it ought to be and what it really is.
Nope, this needed to be approved or disapproved by Trudeau himself. He signed the papers approving it.
Problem is, this is a settlement agreed to and offered by the Canadian Government. I think it would have been much more prudent to fight it in court and actually let the courts decide if he's entitled to compensation through the legal system, rather than have our Government agree to hand over 10.5 mil and offer an apology. Even if it would have cost more to fight, and even if the outcome would have been a potentially higher payout, at least it would have been seen to be a decision of a court, not the submission of our elected government to someone who fought against and killed American soldiers.
The optics of such a decision are terrible, and do nothing but weaken our relationship with our allies and strengthen the terrorist organizations who see this as a government submitting to a soldier to their cause.
What's hard about it is that horse has already left the barn. Unfortunately, even if Canada had declared him a juvenile miscreant, the US declared him an unlawful enemy combatant, and as such, was subject to US prosecution and sentencing.
Well, it's your government. I don't have no say in it. Which I'm actually pretty glad about just now.
Trust me, nobody outside Canada knows or cares.
Which is pretty much why I called it "What should have happened."
Yep, and we basically hung him up for a decade, then tossed him. Done and done.
Unfortunately, it is my government; and even more unfortunate, it's my tax dollars going to this thug.
I have little doubt that this is being observed and viewed as a "win" by organizations who fought and are fighting the same fight as Omar invested half of his life to.
You also stated "what is hard about that?" which is why my response. Mixing past and present tense tends to confuse those who are actually discussing potential solutions to current problems.
I think the term "thug" would be better replaced with "exthug", if in fact he even was. People do change over time and that sometimes warrants change in their treatment!
And what about the treatment of Chris Speers' widow? What about the blind medic? what kind of "treatment" do they deserve? How about the treatment Khadr should show towards the widow of the guy he murdered while he was trying to save his life?I think the term "thug" would be better replaced with "exthug", if in fact he even was. People do change over time and that sometimes warrants change in their treatment!
If Khadr really has turned over a new leaf, if he really does "want Canada to give him a chance and see him as a good person", then maybe he should drop the lawsuit he filed against the country he wants to be loyal to and be a part of. Or maybe he should pay the 150 million dollar judgement against him to Speers' widow , or at least 10.5 million of it to show how good he is.
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Looks like they're already planning civil action against him.
Given the way the Supreme Court has ruled on the Khadr issue the government may be saving us a fair bit of money by doing this. If Khadr sued the government, which he can do the feds could have wound up spending a hell of a lot more than that fighting the case when ultimately whether we like it or not, Khadr would have won. The Supreme Court already ruled in his favour on these issues.
Well that was never going to happen no matter what. Even if it was a legal penalty here it'd require a full and fair trial - which he never got. If the Americans had actually given him that, ironically, he probably wouldnt be free now.
Well that was never going to happen no matter what. Even if it was a legal penalty here it'd require a full and fair trial - which he never got. If the Americans had actually given him that, ironically, he probably wouldnt be free now.
How would/could American law even apply? The crime happened to an American but not in America. The perpetrator is not American. There are limits to to reach of US law (although I doubt that most Mericans would understand that).
I hope so, too.
I hope that the barracuda that make up Khadr's legal team sue him for $10 mil after she does, too.