Kathleen Wynne deals major blow to Tim Hortons

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It certainly is. What I find laughable is that people think they can demand whatever they want from the owner of a business. They also think that threatening Timmys with a boycott is some kind of punishment for owners.

NEWS FLASH! A few people might boycott Timmys, but it won't affect business. People are too addicted to their fat pills and coffee to participate in a boycott.

Then there are those who do not understand that wages are set by the individual store owners, not Restaurant Brands International, the owner of the Tim Hortons name. Franchises are privately owned. Benefits that are presently offered by franchisers can be amended or dropped in a heartbeat. And all of these businesses will be fully complying with the law. And why would they do this? Because the government is sticking their nose into the private business affairs of others.

Folks can whine all they want. Wynne put them in this spot. Had the Liberal government let wages increase in traditional fashion, no jobs would be lost. No hours would be cut. No benefit pkgs would be cutback or vanish.

C'est la guerre.
 
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OmegaOm said:
Can't you see the problem lies in the way a corporation behaves. IT will always be a selfish corrupt system.
The prices go up cause the corporation has to keep making more and more profit, it can not go down. The guys at the top will always make sure they are taken care of while they try to reduce the most expensive cost labor. They will do this regardless of the minimum wage.

90 percent tax on income over a million. Nobody needs to be richer then this. That would solve many problems.
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Perhaps a solution you can support is to stop buying any products/services from any of the evil corps. Support the local mom and pop shops and happily pay a premium for the product/services in question in order to provide a strong wage for all of the staff and owners of the business.

Maybe in YVR, a min wage of $45/hr such that folks can live decently

Will you be supporting those business' on a daily basis?
 
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The damage done to the brand by the response to the pay hike will cost timmys more than the wage hike.

A buck and hour in an ecoomy where normal wage earners are getting 65 cents does not seem out of line. It is almost laughable.
 
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Hoid said:
The damage done to the brand by the response to the pay hike will cost timmys more than the wage hike.

A buck and hour in an ecoomy where normal wage earners are getting 65 cents does not seem out of line. It is almost laughable.
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That is an uninformed, silly statement, but I always expect that from you, Flossy. Whatever you say is always the polar opposite to the truth.

History has shown that people have little influence over the affairs of big business because of their own selfish desires. Car companies like GM, IBM, etc. have been completely unaffected by disgruntled consumers. Regarding TH patrons, they want their fat pills and caffeine. Most won't care. A handful will grumble. TH will carry on, but Wynne's government will tumble.
 
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Hmmm, I find this all very interesting. Has anyone looked into how much a Tim Horton's Franchise costs (or any franchise)? It's not cheap. Does anyone have any idea how much money someone has to invest in order to get a shop up and running; build the building, furnish it, staff it.


So, then you have an individual(s) who own a Tim Hortons, paying monthly franchise fees, plus a mortgage on their building, plus whatever they pay for the equipment that they are obliged to use, salaries, taxes (property, payroll and income tax) etc. And there are those here who say that a $2.40 raise an hour won't affect this business? WOW - what planet to you live on?


It seems to me the minute someone mentions "corporation" they automatically assume it's a multi-billion dollar entity. While there are those, indeed, MOST corporations are small business owners. To assume they have "millions or billions" of dollars socked aside is fool-hearty.


Unfortunately, the "potential" heirs of the TH involved have been put in a really bad situation in that first of all, the money their parents got for the selling of the company likely isn't in their pockets yet and secondly, even if they did have the money, the business needs to stand on its own two feet otherwise it's not a viable operation.


Why should anyone have to use their own money to "subsidize" the business. Oops, my bad! I keep forgetting, there are those people like Wynn who love to "subsidize" verbally everything as long as it sounds good and keeps them in power. Jealousy also plays a factor in that there should not be anyone who is richer than themselves.


The bottom line is that many of the franchisees support various charities in their communities and happily do so. Continue to keep rising costs and it will eventually have a negative impact, not only on the workers but the community itself.


JMHO
 
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I almost never go there anyway. But boycotting in the short term will hurt employees more than the franchise owners. There would have been no problem if Restaurant Brands had let the franchisees raise prices to meet government imposed cost increases.
The real problem is that the government is causing inflation at the expense ow low paid workers.
Do you pay your drivers union rate?
 
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Lots of Tim Hortons already pay their employees more than $15 an hour.

So how is it impossible?
 
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