Kathleen Wynne deals major blow to Tim Hortons

White_Unifier

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Not really a fan of Wynne or Tim's, but $14.00 an hour isn't much. Sure, they make less profit, but it won't put them out of business and the minimum wage should have been brought up a long time ago. Tim's in Alberta already pays $15.00 an hour.

But raising the minimum wage is like the dog chasing its tail. Price go up and suddenly 15.00/hour becomes the new 14.00/hour.
 

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But raising the minimum wage is like the dog chasing its tail. Price go up and suddenly 15.00/hour becomes the new 14.00/hour.

Companies should just treat them like annual Million Dollar CEO raises then.

*POOF*

No price increase!

(it's magic)
 

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I oppose a mandatory minimum wage, but I could support an officially recommended minimum wage that would allow a person to quit his job and go on social assistance without penalty and refuse work below the officially recommended minimum wage without penalty. My guess is that many would still choose to work at the lower wage compared to a measly government assistance checque.

I could also support German-style codetermination laws so as to give workers more say in how the company's money is spent. Unlike the minimum wage though, this actually gives workers more control over their circumstances. Sweden has something similar and its workers are known to vote their wages down in hard times while forcing CEOs to do the same.

I generally tend to oppose labour unions due to their confrontational nature, but I'll admit that I'm in two minds about Swedish labour unions. My gut instinct is still to turn from them, but Swedish unions have some advantages. Firstly, Sweden has right-to-work laws so no one can be legally forced to join a union. Secondly, Swedish unions seem to be more corporatist in their philosophy, perhaps similar in their outlook to John Stuart Mill. In fact, utilitarianism and economic corporatism share certain traits in common which probably explains why many of his economic ideas tend towards a liberal corporatist approach. A corporatist tends to approach econommic problems from a less confrontational and more collaborative approach, and that's what make Swedish unions more palatable to me. Canadian ones are more labour-socialist in their outlook and so far more confrontational in their approach.
 

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I'm not seeing the problem with $14 or $15 an hour.

They sell $3 billion a year worth of crap.
 

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Anyone whose head is shoved so far up their ass their zipper whistles every time they sneeze.
The Wynned Bag was told numerous times this kind of shit would happen but in neo-Libtard la-la land, emotion driven policy wins out over evidence-based policy pretty much every time.

So, it would seem the real bully is the stupid twat who listened to absolutely nobody and decided she was going to do whatever the f*ck she wanted, regardless of the damage it may cause. And now she's freaking out on a pair of Timmy's franchise owners because they refuse to go along with her bullshit. I feel sorry for the employees but let's fact it, the blame lays squarely on the shoulders of a govt who doesn't give flying f*ck about anyone but themselves and their pig trough cronies. Never mind creating the conditions that led to this type of "revolt" in the first place.

What's really f*cking amusing though are the people who support increased wages in the fast food industry. Many of them are the same people wailing on about the environment and climate change. Flossie in here for example, cheers the slow destruction of Canada's oil industry and the loss of those living wage jobs while championing higher wages in what is one of the most destructive industries and likely the most wasteful industry on the planet.

However slimey they appear however, they are actually efficient, ask Rome etc
 

OmegaOm

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ITs the system that is screwed up. The corporations will always win. There is absolutely no reason that a CEO can make more then 200 times the minimum wage worker. IF they just take a little off the ceo's money the hard working minimum wage worker might be able to pay rent. And the company loses no money.


If you can't afford to pay a worker a living wage then you should not be in business.
 

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But raising the minimum wage is like the dog chasing its tail. Price go up and suddenly 15.00/hour becomes the new 14.00/hour.

So, it's still a shit wage. Tim Horton's already pays $15.00 a hour in Alberta, has been for some time and nobody was threatening to claw back money from employees.
 

OmegaOm

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But raising the minimum wage is like the dog chasing its tail. Price go up and suddenly 15.00/hour becomes the new 14.00/hour.


Can't you see the problem lies in the way a corporation behaves. IT will always be a selfish corrupt system.
The prices go up cause the corporation has to keep making more and more profit, it can not go down. The guys at the top will always make sure they are taken care of while they try to reduce the most expensive cost labor. They will do this regardless of the minimum wage.

90 percent tax on income over a million. Nobody needs to be richer then this. That would solve many problems.
 
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Can't you see the problem lies in the way a corporation behaves. IT will always be a selfish corrupt system.
The prices go up cause the corporation has to keep making more and more profit, it can not go down. The guys at the top will always make sure they are taken care of while they try to reduce the most expensive cost labor. They will do this regardless of the minimum wage.

90 percent tax on income over a million. Nobody needs to be richer then this.

So what you're saying is that people have to be income restricted. No one should have more than 1 million dollars.

You must be a socialist. Or someone who wasn't very successful in their life. Or very young.

While you're at it, why not make some other changes?

People shouldn't have any more than two children.
One car.
Two televisions.
No one needs a house. House everyone in apartments.
Limit the amount of food they can consume.
Put a limit on how long someone is allowed to live.
Place a dollar limit on lifetime medical expenses.
Euthanize anyone with a chronic disease.

:lol: Let us know how that works out for you, Adolf.

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OmegaOm

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But raising the minimum wage is like the dog chasing its tail. Price go up and suddenly 15.00/hour becomes the new 14.00/hour.

So what you're saying is that people have to be income restricted. No one should have more than 1 million dollars.

You must be a socialist. Or someone who wasn't very successful in their life. Or very young.

While you're at it, why not make some other changes?

People shouldn't have any more than two children.
One car.
Two televisions.
No one needs a house. House everyone in apartments.
Limit the amount of food they can consume.
Put a limit on how long someone is allowed to live.
Place a dollar limit on lifetime medical expenses.
Euthanize anyone with a chronic disease.

:lol: Let us know how that works out for you, Adolf.


First off cause Hitler was socialist does not mean socialism is bad. He is a dictator for his racist socialism. The USA killed millions of people with its capitalism.
What we are talking about is right and wrong.

You think a million dollars a year is not enough to make. Having multiply houses , cars, boats, never work again. Thats not enough. We really need all these selfish idiots holding on to all the wealth.

It is true that it is bad for the economy to have these few rich people hording the wealth instead of spending the money, like it would if much was given to the lower class of people.

I am not rich but I am comfortable with life capitalism has given me. Still I know this system is wrong corrupt, illogical, stupid and selfish. And worst of all it is killing our life giving planet. Cause its money over brains. This is obvious to someone observant to what is going down on this planet.

90 percent tax on income over a million. You are still rich. What you greedy you want the whole Earth. That aint enough.

Cause some guy invented whatsapp. He now holds on to 5 billion of the worlds wealth.
You think he is a great gift to man kind cause he invented whats app. Lets give him so much world power for that. Einstien made this new world and he made 50 thousand a year. Go figure. This whats app guy should not be a billionaire nor any other guy to get lucky in the market.
 
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Thread title should read, Dyke-Bitch deals major blow to all small businesses, especially in service industry.
 

OmegaOm

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Thread title should read, Dyke-Bitch deals major blow to all small businesses, especially in service industry.

Walter who is the guy that is responsible for 99 percent of my dislike posts.

The small bushiness can make out just fine by having there employees pay the rent. These small business actually take in alot of money. The ones that dont will fail anyway.

Really if you are open 10 hours a day. The business would need to spend another $20 a day per employee. IF they cant handle that they should not be in business. Try to care for the people who work hard at tim hortons. I would not want that job. They work hard and they should at least get compensated for that work.
How can you be for the rich company owner taking all the money. I do not get it, unless you are one yourself, but I do not think you are.
 

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I do not accept your version of what is right or wrong. Cause you know, Hitler, Amin, Hussein, et al, had versions of what was right and wrong too.
 
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Walter who is the guy that is responsible for 99 percent of my dislike posts.

The small bushiness can make out just fine by having there employees pay the rent. These small business actually take in alot of money. The ones that dont will fail anyway.

Really if you are open 10 hours a day. The business would need to spend another $20 a day per employee. IF they cant handle that they should not be in business. Try to care for the people who work hard at tim hortons. I would not want that job. They work hard and they should at least get compensated for that work.
How can you be for the rich company owner taking all the money. I do not get it, unless you are one yourself, but I do not think you are.

And yet, I suspect you will be first on the list to complain about any small business either
raising prices, or closing due to this massive wage hike.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Thread title should read, Dyke-Bitch deals major blow to all small businesses, especially in service industry.

You know, Walter, even when you say or do something remotely intelligent, which is rare, you still manage to blow yourself up.
 

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