Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

[gerryh]

I see you edited out your ignorant comments concerning the Cree and the Ojibway.

Most other people here on this forum don't have problems expressing their viewpoint in a polite way that doesn't violate forum rules. Sounds to me like you have a problem.

I have no problem doing that.

Tell me eao, why the edit on your post concerning the Cree and the Ojibway?

 

[lone wolf]

Who brought the booze in the first place?

Hint: They were neither Jew nor Nazi

 

[Goober]

EAO
Have you ever considered that you are wrong on a number of topics.

 

[earth_as_one]

I often correct grammar and typos after posting. gerryh is blowing smoke out his ass. I never made a racist comment. I did say that "The most dangerous communities for government service providers like myself were specific Cree and Ojibway communities"... the ones which allowed alcohol. I could tell as soon as I walked off the plane if the community was wet or dry.... and I went on to describe the difference. Anyone who has spent any time in these communities knows that many have alcohol, illegal drugs and solvent abuse problems. I never claimed these problems are race related as gerryh implies with his above insult (that the moderators have now removed).. IMO, they are more the result of past abuses, cultural assimilation, isolation and poverty.

Who brought the booze in the first place?

Hint: They were neither Jew nor Nazi

Who brought the tobacco in the first place?

Hint: they were neither Muslims nor Zionists.

I don't deny that Canada has a dark and shameful past regarding our treatment of indigenous people. But Canada's worst acts of injustice and oppression pale in comparison to Israel's treatment of non-Jewish Palestinians. Let me know when Israel grants Palestinians not only the same rights and freedoms as Israelis, but additional rights to the land and resources.

 

[lone wolf]

Who brought the tobacco in the first place?

Hint: they were neither Muslims nor Zionists.

You missed the point entirely on your sidetrack through all about me territory ... but managed to somewhat swerve back onto the road with the Muslim or Zionist crack.

Besides ... tobacco wasn't primarily for smoking. That was a European bastardization

 

[Goober]

I often correct grammar and typos after posting. gerryh is blowing smoke out his ass. I never made a racist comment. I did say that "The most dangerous communities for government service providers like myself were specific Cree and Ojibway communities"... the ones which allowed alcohol. I could tell as soon as I walked off the plane if the community was wet or dry.... and I went on to describe the difference. Anyone who has spent any time in these communities knows that many have alcohol, illegal drugs and solvent abuse problems. I never claimed these problems are race related as gerryh implies with his above insult (that the moderators have now removed).. IMO, they are more the result of past abuses, cultural assimilation, isolation and poverty.



Who brought the tobacco in the first place?

Hint: they were neither Muslims nor Zionists.

I don't deny that Canada has a dark and shameful past regarding our treatment of indigenous people. But Canada's worst acts of injustice and oppression pale in comparison to Israel's treatment of non-Jewish Palestinians. Let me know when Israel grants Palestinians not only the same rights and freedoms as Israelis, but additional rights to the land and resources.

Some would see your slander of Colpy as clearly against Forum Rules-

 

[earth_as_one]

Really? History of Tobacco:
Tobacco had already long been used in the Americas by the time European settlers arrived and introduced the practice to Europe, where it became popular....Eastern North American tribes would carry large amounts of tobacco in pouches as a readily accepted trade item and would often smoke it in pipes, either in defined ceremonies that were considered sacred, or to seal a bargain,[3] and they would smoke it at such occasions in all stages of life, even in childhood.[4] It was believed that tobacco was a gift from the Creator and that the exhaled tobacco smoke was capable of carrying one's thoughts and prayers to heaven.[5]
History of tobacco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also Europeans didn't introduce alcohol to the new world. It was already here:
History of alcoholic beverages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[lone wolf]

Y'know, if you're going to be a sticker for rules when it comes to getting your ass burned, you should stick to the one about derailing threads too.

START ONE!

 

[earth_as_one]

Some would see your slander of Colpy as clearly against Forum Rules-

Putting Colpy in the shoes of a Palestinan isn't slander. If you truly believe Palestinians have been treated fairly, then you shouldn't have a problem with Coply going through the same experience. That you consider my post which proposed giving Colpy the same experience as non-Jewish Palestinians proves that you also know the Zionists have treated Palestinians very badly.

 

[Goober]

Putting Colpy in the shoes of a Palestinan isn't slander. If you truly believe Palestinians have been treated fairly, then you shouldn't have a problem with Coply going through the same experience. That you consider my post which proposed giving Colpy the same experience as non-Jewish Palestinians proves that you also know the Zionists have treated Palestinians very badly.

That was not your point Buckey- I would be careful in the future as to who you slander.

 

[earth_as_one]

Y'know, if you're going to be a sticker for rules when it comes to getting your ass burned, you should stick to the one about derailing threads too.

START ONE!

CB drew parallels between the experience of indigenous First Nations and indigenous Palestinians with colonization. I agree with him that many similarities exist and that its on topic.

Israeli colonizers should look to the Canadian experience and grant indigenous Palestinians the same rights and privileges as Israeli citizens along with special rights to the land and resources, just like Canada has done with our indigenous First Nations people.

Please do compare the experience of Canada's First Nations with the Palestinian experiece:

Areas of comparison:
Freedom of the press and of other media of communication
Freedom of peaceful assembly
Freedom of association.
Mobility rights: the right to enter and leave national boundaries, to move to and take up residence anywhere within or outside the state.
The right to life, liberty, and security of the person
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure.
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment
Equal treatment before and under the law, and equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination.

That was not your point Buckey- I would be careful in the future as to who you slander.

People can see for themselves that my post which considered putting Colpy in the same situation as a Palestinian was not slander:

One possible solution to the Palestinian refugee problem would be to create a homeland for them wherever Colpy lives. I'm sure Colpy and his neighbors wouldn't mind several million Muslims moving in next door. I've never heard him state once that millions of Jewish refugees moving to Palestine had anything to do with the current violence in the region. So if it wasn't a cause of animosity for the Palestinians, I'm sure it would (not) be a cause for animosity for Colpy and his neighbors. Once the Palestinian refugees make up about 40% of the population, Colpy and his neighbors could look forward to the UN partitioning their land so the Palestinian refugees gain control over most of land, including best farmland and all the water resources. I'm sure Colpy wouldn't mind the UN declaring his neighbor(hood) a Muslim Fundamentalist State under Sharia Law. I read in a book somewhere that God promised Colpy's neighborhood to Palestinians, just like another book promised Palestine to the Jews. If a book making such a claim is good enough for the Jews, it certainly has to be good enough for the Palestinians. I'm sure Colpy and his neighbors wouldn't mind giving up their homes and their fundamental rights and freedoms to accommodate millions of nationless refugess like the Palestinians did in 1947/48. Unfortunately Colpy and his neighbors would have to move into tents in the UN designated refugee camps, But if Colpy and his neighbors waiting peaceully long enough they would eventually get freedom and justice just like the Palestinians.

 

[gerryh]

I've been muzzled so the racist can continue his rants.

 

[earth_as_one]

Sure looks like you can still post insults.

If you are going to call someone a racist without it being an insult, you are going to have to at least quote the offensive remark justifying your label.

But calling someone a racist piece of crap is an insult pretty much anyway you spin it.

I really have nothing against you gerryh. Why can't you debate your points like everyone else.... I assume you do have a point besides insulting people.

 

[Goober]

Sure looks like you can still post insults.

If you are going to call someone a racist without it being an insult, you are going to have to at least quote the offensive remark justifying your label.

But calling someone a racist piece of crap is an insult pretty much anyway you spin it.

I really have nothing against you gerryh. Why can't you debate your points like everyone else.... I assume you do have a point besides insulting people.

Consensus is that you have made and still do make racist comments. Just saying what I see.

 

[earth_as_one]

Yet not one of you can give an example of a racist comment I've made.

What's going on here is that several of you disagree with my opinion that everyone including Palestinians should at least have a minimum amount of rights and freedoms. But you don't want to argue your belief that Israel has a right to treat Palestinians as badly as they do, because you know your opinions are indefensible... so instead of engaging me in a real debate, a group of you continuously try to smear me with insults and fabrications about what I've written (which is why you won't quote me). Every time I write about human rights, someone here tries to pin an anti-Semitic label on me.

I'm just saying what I'm seeing.

BTW, did I mention I am half Jewish on my mother's side? I believe that makes me Jewish enough to immigrate to Israel and take a Palestinian family's home.

 

[gerryh]

BTW, did I mention I am half Jewish on my mother's side? I believe that makes me Jewish enough to immigrate to Israel and take a Palestinian family's home.

Oh? Up to "half" Jewish now are we? So your Mother was Jewish?

This is no different than the useless twats that have a hate on for African Americans making the statement that they can't be racist because they either have "friends" that are black or have African American "blood" somewhere back in their history.

 

[Goober]

Yet not one of you can give an example of a racist comment I've made.

BTW, did I mention I am half Jewish on my mother's side?

Mentioned time and time again- And that equates to what........................

 

[gerryh]

I call bullshyte to your "Jewish" heritage. It's just more lies from you.

 

[lone wolf]

Yet not one of you can give an example of a racist comment I've made.

What's going on here is that several of you disagree with my opinion that everyone including Palestinians should at least have a minimum amount of rights and freedoms. But you don't want to argue your belief that Israel has a right to treat Palestinians as badly as they do, because you know your opinions are indefensible... so instead of engaging me in a real debate, a group of you continuously try to smear me with insults and fabrications about what I've written (which is why you won't quote me). Every time I write about human rights, someone here tries to pin an anti-Semitic label on me.

I'm just saying what I'm seeing.

BTW, did I mention I am half Jewish on my mother's side? I believe that makes me Jewish enough to immigrate to Israel and take a Palestinian family's home.

Personally, I think you just crave attention ... and simply hate being wrong - a poor combination in the real world

Yet not one of you can give an example of a racist comment I've made.

Israel has an Apartheid like system of rights based on level of Jewishness, rather than level of whiteness....

Yeah ... out of context. So what? If you want to play a lawyer game of shuck and jive, be prepared to have anything you say used against you....

It's fair on your terms

 

[earth_as_one]

If one of the parents is not Jewish, the rule is that the child takes the status of the mother.

My uncle who is into genealogy recently discovered that my maternal grandmother's grandmother came from a Jewish family that fled Russia to Poland and converted to Catholic to avoid antisemitism. I share the same X chromosome with people who claim that God gave them the right to go to Palestine and toss non-Jewish families onto the street and take their homes.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/10/02/the-right-to-exist/
But I was raised Catholic and became agnostic. Interpret the above as you wish.

Back on subject, this thread is about how Israel treats Palestinians. I believe that Palestinians are human beings and therefore should have the same rights and freedoms as other human beings. The main rebuttal here seems to be that my belief in universal fundamental human rights makes me antisemitic and a racist.