Jane Fonda should stick to something she knows!

Bar Sinister

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Fonda is nothing more than a has-been looking for attention and relevance.




Ted is busy cleaning his guns right now... Wonder how Janie feels about that

Yep - guns the solution of right wing morons everywhere.

Actually, you're numbers are just a little bit off. The total area of the oil sand mining footprint is a little over 90, thousand hectares. Your 1,400,000 hectare number is off by 1500%.

For your reference, the total area of the Alberta oil sands deposit is 140,000 sq. km. The active mining footprint is 904 sq. km. I hope you're not suggesting that areas of the deposit not affected by mining operations should be expected to be reclaimed. If so, reclaimed from what?


The little black dot in the yellow area on the map above represents the active mining footprint.

Actually what I was suggesting is that so far almost nothing has been reclaimed. Are you going to argue with that?
 

Decapoda

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Actually what I was suggesting is that so far almost nothing has been reclaimed. Are you going to argue with that?

Sure... as of 2015 Suncor alone has reclaimed about 3,730 hectares of oil sands in situ and mine disturbed lands. Some of the notable reclamation projects completed include:


  • In 2010, Suncor became the first oil sands company to reclaim a tailings pond to a trafficable surface or 220 hectares watershed supporting a mixed wood forest, a network of streams and a marsh wetland;
  • In 2011, Suncor joined 12 companies to form Canada’s Oil Sands Innovation Alliance, (COSIA), to accelerate environmental performance environment, including in the Land Environmental Performance Area;
  • By September 2011, 5 million trees were planted at Base Plant;
  • In 2012, Suncor set a new planting record for planting the most trees, shrub and aquatic plants in a single season - 694,533 seedlings;
  • In 2012, research results prompted them to use compostable tea bags in reclamation efforts in order to directly promote the growth of seedlings;
  • In 2013, Suncor became one of the first companies in the world to complete reconstruction of a fen peatland watershed.
  • In 2015, Suncor planted more than 230 hectares in one season, exceeding their record for largest area reclaimed in one year.
  • By the end of 2015, Suncor had planted more than 7.9 million trees, shrubs and aquatic plants on their oil sands site – including 692,808 trees in the previous year alone.

I would argue that this is a fairly comprehensive effort to reclaim mined land. I know its far from the 1.4 million hectares you want to see reclaimed, but not too bad nonetheless.

Way to go suncor, keep up the good work!
 

personal touch

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Suncor needs to talk about their future more,
I want to share in their great plans,this makes me happy ,
Looking for the future

I don't care about their catching up mode
Wish they could move on

Can they plan bigger ideas,
Bunch of old boys swinging from trees

What is the plan for 20 years?

Optimism is what I seek
 

Johnnny

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Id like to see some of these celebrities go to a "stan" that was part of the USSR and bitch over there about how humans impact the environment.

Id also like people to petition the USA and China more to reduce emmisions than come at us because we have a lot of natural resource extraction

Canadians dont need people like celbrities from other countries lecturing us.

Suncor needs to talk about their future more,
I want to share in their great plans,this makes me happy ,
Looking for the future

I don't care about their catching up mode
Wish they could move on

Can they plan bigger ideas,
Bunch of old boys swinging from trees

What is the plan for 20 years?

Optimism is what I seek

Look above you.

Research "Sustainable Development".

You would be happy to learn that before a company rips up the ground that the same company must have the money set aside beforehand to clean up afterward. Its the law.
 

Decapoda

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Suncor needs to talk about their future more,
I want to share in their great plans,this makes me happy ,
Looking for the future

I don't care about their catching up mode
Wish they could move on

Can they plan bigger ideas,
Bunch of old boys swinging from trees

What is the plan for 20 years?

Optimism is what I seek

A quick internet search will give you the answers you are looking for. Education takes a bit of effort. Likely the reason you are so ill-informed is because you allow others to feed you false or biased information rather than going out and finding it for yourself. This is why you are so helplessly awestruck by an empty vessel like Jane.
 

pgs

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It's nice that Jane is finally getting some recognition. I, for one, am still frothing that she was passed by for an Oscar for her portrayal of the title role in "Barbarella: Queen of the Galaxy". The depth she brought to the part was right up there with the likes of Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson.
Oh Flesh Oh Flesh .
 

Curious Cdn

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Fonda is a self appointed expert on social issues. Like a lot of that Hollywood crowd.

She's richer than Croesus, which seriously detracts from her socialist lecturing and brow beating. I've never heard her mentioned along with the great philanthropists of America.
 

Bar Sinister

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Sure... as of 2015 Suncor alone has reclaimed about 3,730 hectares of oil sands in situ and mine disturbed lands. Some of the notable reclamation projects completed include:


  • In 2010, Suncor became the first oil sands company to reclaim a tailings pond to a trafficable surface or 220 hectares watershed supporting a mixed wood forest, a network of streams and a marsh wetland;
  • In 2011, Suncor joined 12 companies to form Canada’s Oil Sands Innovation Alliance, (COSIA), to accelerate environmental performance environment, including in the Land Environmental Performance Area;
  • By September 2011, 5 million trees were planted at Base Plant;
  • In 2012, Suncor set a new planting record for planting the most trees, shrub and aquatic plants in a single season - 694,533 seedlings;
  • In 2012, research results prompted them to use compostable tea bags in reclamation efforts in order to directly promote the growth of seedlings;
  • In 2013, Suncor became one of the first companies in the world to complete reconstruction of a fen peatland watershed.
  • In 2015, Suncor planted more than 230 hectares in one season, exceeding their record for largest area reclaimed in one year.
  • By the end of 2015, Suncor had planted more than 7.9 million trees, shrubs and aquatic plants on their oil sands site – including 692,808 trees in the previous year alone.

I would argue that this is a fairly comprehensive effort to reclaim mined land. I know its far from the 1.4 million hectares you want to see reclaimed, but not too bad nonetheless.

Way to go suncor, keep up the good work!

So using your own figures the reclamation of devastated tar sands regions is still only about 4% of what has been mined. Given the fact that is all that has been done in several decades of mining I will stand by my previously post that it is going to be a very long time if ever before the region is returned to its original state. In fact I am guessing that just leaving the area to nature would be almost as fast.