Israel...

[Just the Facts]

Israel and Lebanon have been at war since 1948. They've never had peace, only ceasefires. I suppose that neither side has to release anyone.

So it would be OK for me and a bunch of my Henchmen to capture some Syrians and lock them up in my basement, since Israel and Syria are officially at war?

Once again, Hezbollah is NOT Lebanon. Hezballah is Iran more so than Lebanon. So it would actually have made more sense for Israel to retaliate against Iran than Lebanon.

Remember that next time you accuse Israel of sabre-rattling at Iran.

 

[Just the Facts]

Regarding home demolitions, I suppose Z, that when Israel demolishes a Palestinian home, they make sure it stays demolished.

They also make sure no one is inside.

Those Katusha rockets don't appear to be powerful enough to level a house. Damage it and or kill people for sure, but afterwards, the house is repaired and the owner moves back in.

kill people for sure. See above and compare the difference. If Israel decides to stop demolishing vacant houses in response to terror attacks, in favour of firing crude missiles randomly into the Palestinian population, you would applaud that decision?

 

[darkbeaver]

So it would be OK for me and a bunch of my Henchmen to capture some Syrians and lock them up in my basement, since Israel and Syria are officially at war?

Once again, Hezbollah is NOT Lebanon. Hezballah is Iran more so than Lebanon. So it would actually have made more sense for Israel to retaliate against Iran than Lebanon.

Remember that next time you accuse Israel of sabre-rattling at Iran.

So these Lebanese Hezbolla security people are not Lebanese? So who do Israeli security forces really belong to?:smile:

 

[darkbeaver]

They also make sure no one is inside.



kill people for sure. See above and compare the difference. If Israel decides to stop demolishing vacant houses in response to terror attacks, in favour of firing crude missiles randomly into the Palestinian population, you would applaud that decision?

You begin with an unsupported statement that you invariably back up with standard industrial spin.

 

[lone wolf]

They also make sure no one is inside.

kill people for sure. See above and compare the difference. If Israel decides to stop demolishing vacant houses in response to terror attacks, in favour of firing crude missiles randomly into the Palestinian population, you would applaud that decision?

I wouldn't take the kind soldier's word there was nobody inside - although it would seem prudent to answer the door to prevent the next step....

If Israel decided to stop demolishing vacant homes....

When did Israel ever make a distinction between vacant - meaning no one was inside because daddy was at work, the kids were at school and mommy was out doing the shopping, and vacant - meaning abandoned? I would applaud if Israel stopped creating really pissed off angry people for that makes Israel the source of its own trouble.

 

[Just the Facts]

It's overwhelmingly supported. Thank you.

 

[Just the Facts]

vacant - meaning abandoned?

So you figure an unused Johnny on the Spot is abandoned.

Don't be obtuse, you know exactly what vacant means.

 

[lone wolf]

So you figure an unused Johnny on the Spot is abandoned.

Don't be obtuse, you know exactly what vacant means.

Obtuse: your Johnny-on-the-Spot....:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

It's overwhelmingly supported. Thank you.

Quite the opposite. You're welcome.

 

[Just the Facts]

So these Lebanese Hezbolla security people are not Lebanese? So who do Israeli security forces really belong to?:smile:

Israel should absolutely dissociate itself from the IDF, then they'd be on a level playing field. They could claim that they will negotiate with the IDF to stop attacking Lebanon, but can make no promises.

 

[Colpy]

Israel should absolutely dissociate itself from the IDF, then they'd be on a level playing field. They could claim that they will negotiate with the IDF to stop attacking Lebanon, but can make no promises.

that's hilarious!

 

[CDNBear]

Israel should absolutely dissociate itself from the IDF, then they'd be on a level playing field. They could claim that they will negotiate with the IDF to stop attacking Lebanon, but can make no promises.

 

[Just the Facts]

Quite the opposite. You're welcome.

You're gonna have to help me out then. I googled every phrase I could think of and came up empty....no reports of Palestinians killed in house demolitions. I even scoured the ICAHD site....nothing. The closest anyone could come up with is Rachel Corrie, who was neither Palestinian nor killed in a home being demolished.

 

[earth_as_one]

They also make sure no one is inside.



kill people for sure. See above and compare the difference. If Israel decides to stop demolishing vacant houses in response to terror attacks, in favour of firing crude missiles randomly into the Palestinian population, you would applaud that decision?

You have no idea.

Executive Summary by Jeff Halper, Coordinator, ICAHD:

The home of Salim and Arabiya Shawamreh has become the symbol of nonviolent resistance to Israel's policy of demolishing Palestinian homes – more than 11,000 since 1967. The Shawamreh's only "crime" was building (and rebuilding) their home on their own privately-owned land without obtaining a permit. While this may seem reasonable, the Shawamreh's case clearly demonstrates that the Israeli authorities refuse to grant Palestinians building permits, cynically using the mechanisms of planning, zoning, administration and the law to confine them to small islands of the country. The home of Salim and Arabiya illustrates the political agenda of the demolition policy, as well as the trauma and suffering caused by such a policy. It also shows that in the vast majority of the cases the demolition of Palestinian homes has nothing to do with terrorism or security – Salim has never been charged with any breach of security; they are done merely to keep lands coveted by Israel free of their Palestinian owners. In the end it is a policy to displace an entire people.



DATE ACTION
Oct 19, 03 Israeli Supreme Court will decide to demolish or call for a full hearing.
Oct 2, 03 In response to an appeal against the Civil Administration submitted on that day by Salim Shawamreh, Israel’s Supreme Court of Justice freezes the demolition order and gives the state of Israel until Oct. 19th to answer claims raised in the appeal.


Sept 29, 03 The Israeli "Civil" Administration (CA) rejects all arguments raised by Salim Shawamreh. With regards to the complaint about discrimination in issuing building permits, the CA answers that since Mr. Shawamreh violated the demolition order a number of times, this fact is enough to reject all his complaints automatically, without further discussion.
At the same proceeding, Salim asks the CA judicial department to postpone the demolition, since he intended to appeal again for a building permit. Eventually the CA attorney agrees to delay the demolition until October 2nd at 10:00 AM in order to enable Mr. Shawamreh to appeal to the Supreme Court of Justice. HOWEVER, Salim's request to allow him enough time to apply for permit is rejected.
Sept 28, 03 Salim files his objection to the demolition order, stating that the house now has been rented to ICAHD and is used as a center for promotion of peace, for which reason the order needs to be cancelled. In addition, Salim complains against the discrimination between Jewish settlers and Palestinians in the Occupied Territories (a claim ignored by the CA).
Sept 25, 03 The "Civil" Administration informs Salim that he has three days to appeal to the Supreme Court of Justice against the demolition order that had been issued in 1995. [According to the law, every construction that is rebuilt on the same plot of a filed demolition order is subject to the order, and since the house was rebuilt by volunteers in August 2003, the order is now 'valid'.]
Salim’s lawyer responds by claiming the order is not valid. First of all, this is a different construction in its size, location and designation. Second, a demolition order must include a description of the building. Since it cannot be the same description as the house that was built nine years before, the old order is no longer valid.
Aug 8 – 21, 03 Work camp organized by the ICAHD to rebuild the house as a center for peace named after Arabiya Shawamreh, in memory of two women who lost their lives during house demolitions in Rafah in March 2003: Rachel Corrie, an American volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement, and Nuha Sweidan, a pregnant Palestinian women who was killed when a wall from her neighbour's house who has been demolished fell on top of her.
July 2003 Fearing retribution from the Israeli authorities yet wanting to rebuild once again, Salim leases his plot of land to ICAHD in order to build there a center for peace.
Apr 3, 03 4th demolition. While Salim and ICAHD were trying to save 17 Palestinian homes from demolition in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Sur Bahar, Salim was notified that the bulldozers had come to demolish his home once again in Anata. Salim is summoned for interrogation to the Civil Administration, and warned that he will be prosecuted if he continues to build.
Nov – Apr, 02 Since rebuilding constitutes a political act of resistance, the family and its supporters decide to rebuild once again. Rebuilding begins with funds contributed through donations arranged by the Global Campaign to Rebuild Palestinian Homes.
Apr 4, 01 3rd demolition. Children return home to find it is gone, all furnishings thrown outside.
Apr 3, 01 Shawamreh family moves into new home.
98, 99, 01 Rebuilding slowly and quietly with assistance by Israeli volunteers, due to concerns for the traumatized family’s fragile psychological state.
Aug 3, 98 2nd demolition. Family awakened at 4:30 AM with guns pointing at their faces. Jeff Halper and other volunteers spend the night, fearing possible demolition. Resistance, but demolition of shell building is completed.
Aug, 98 Since the Civil Administration has not identified the missing signatures, Salim and Arabia meet with all land owners in Anata and get their signature on a declaration, stating that they have no claims over the Shawamreh’s plot of land.
Aug 2, 98 Volunteers from ICAHD and the Palestinian Land Defense Committee finish the shell of the home.
Jul 10, 98 Salim Shawamreh, Jeff Halper and Issa Samandar decide the best response is to rebuild the home. They mobilize the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions (ICAHD) and the Palestinian Land Defense Committee to help rebuild.
Israeli Civil Authority official is quoted by Haaretz newspaper as saying, “the house would have a permit but the deed is missing two signatures.” (Note: the deed was properly registered and approved in 1990, upon purchase of the home.) Lawyer visits Civil Authority in attempt to find out whose signatures are missing. The Civil Administration does not respond for six months.
Jul 9, 98 1st Demolition of the Shawamreh home. Family sits down to lunch, soldiers come to say “This is our house now.” Arabiya, who does not understand Hebrew, sees her husband beaten and dragged by soldiers, and locks the door in fear of the soldiers. Army then throws tear gas into rooms to evacuate the children. Jeff Halper of ICAHD throws himself in front of bulldozer and is beaten. International TV coverage.
May, 98 Salim and his cousin, both holding demolition orders, call ICAHD to ask for their help in getting a building permit. They had read an advertisement in an Israeli newspaper, stating that ICAHD helps Palestinians who are holding demolition orders.
1995 LAW – The Palestinian Society for the Protection of Human Rights and the Environment appeals to the Israeli High Court of Justice in favour of the Shawamreh house. Appeal rejected.
1995 Israel’s Civil Authority orders demolition of the home for lack of a building permit.
1994 Application denied: "the slope is too steep." The court also rules that Salim's ownership over the land was partial. Having nowhere else to live, the Shawamrehs, like thousands of other Palestinian families, build their modest home without a permit, and the family moves in.
1993 Application denied: their barren stony plot is zoned by Israel as "agricultural land" – zoning based on a 1942 British Mandate plan that is used to confine Palestinians to small islands of the Territories and to justify demolishing their homes. 2nd application for permit filed. Application cost: $5000.
1991 Salim files 1st application for permit to build a house. Application cost: $5000.
1990 Upon his return home, Salim purchases land in Anata to build his home.
Unable to continue living in the densely-packed Shuafat refugee camp in Jerusalem, the Shawamrehs buy a plot of land in the nearby village of Anata, just over the Jerusalem border. Because the land is in the West Bank, it is more affordable than land in Jerusalem, for which almost no permits to build are granted by Israel. Since the family has Jerusalem residency, however, they will lose their right to enter Israel if they are “discovered” in their new home. Yet continuing to live in Jerusalem is impossible because of the housing shortage created by Israel’s no-permit and demolition policies. The Shawamrehs face a dilemma: an affordable home or the ability to live and work in Jerusalem. (Jewish Israelis, of course, are free to live wherever they wish.)

http://www.icahd.org/eng/articles.asp?menu=6&submenu=5&story=32

 

[Just the Facts]

You have no idea.

All that verbage and after wasting my time reading it all, no reported casualties.

Yeah, Israel demolishes houses, that's not in dispute, you don't need to prove it. They've taken a lot of flack for it from the world community and have even agreed to stop doing it, although they don't seem to have followed through on that yet.

Still, how many Palestinians were killed in the demolition of a house?

Now if only the world community would give the Palestinians as much flack for firing rockets at children as the world community gives Israel for knocking down buildings, we might make some progress.

 

[lone wolf]

Now if only the world community would give the Palestinians as much flack for firing rockets at children as the world community gives Israel for knocking down buildings, we might make some progress.

Might be easier to give 'em, hell if they had a town hall to catch the mail or to picket. If they're not recognized then they don't exist so it's like saying NO to phantoms....

 

[earth_as_one]

All that verbage and after wasting my time reading it all, no reported casualties.

Yeah, Israel demolishes houses, that's not in dispute, you don't need to prove it. They've taken a lot of flack for it from the world community and have even agreed to stop doing it, although they don't seem to have followed through on that yet.

Still, how many Palestinians were killed in the demolition of a house?

Now if only the world community would give the Palestinians as much flack for firing rockets at children as the world community gives Israel for knocking down buildings, we might make some progress.

You don't see the injustice of demolitioning people's homes? How about now?

Home of Bedouin soldier killed in action slated for demolition

By Mijal Grinberg, Haaretz Correspondent

Driving along the road from Be'er Sheva to Arad, shortly before the turn toward Darijat, you can see the unrecognized Bedouin village that was home to Manhash al-Baniyat, the Israeli soldier who was killed Wednesday in a clash with Palestinian gunmen near the Gaza Strip border, across from Kibbutz Be'eri...

...Asked whether Manhash liked army service, his cousin Awada Smaana gave a sad smile, and said: "That's a tough question. It's a very big dilemma for us, whether or not to enlist. Sometimes you feel like belonging to the state, but sometimes you get fed up because you build a house and they come and destroy it." Smaana grappled with this dilemma himself when he enlisted, caught "between the need to belong and the fact that you feel like you don't belong. It's constant agonizing. I hope our situation will change, but so far it looks like it isn't changing."...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975682.html

Does it matter how many stories exist like the above?

* year - number of demolitions
* 1967 - 6,317
* 1968 - 140
* 1969 - 301
* 1970 - 191
* 1971 - 2,231
* 1972 - 35
* 1973 - 34
* 1974 - 61
* 1975 - 77
* 1976 - 24
* 1977 - 1
* 1978 - 2
* 1979 - 18
* 1980 - 30
* 1981 - 24
* 1982 - 35
* 1983 - 12
* 1984 - 2
* 1985 - 44
* 1986 - 49
* 1987 - 104
* 1988 - 587
* 1989 - 567
* 1990 - 306
* 1991 - 307
* 1992 - 193
* 1993 - 130
* 1994 - 153
* 1995 - 69
* 1996 - 168
* 1997 - 257
* 1998 - 180
* 1999 - 142
* (Intifada) - 4,747 (2,781 military, 1,966 administrative)
* 2005 - 290
* 2006 - 319
* TOTAL 18,147
http://www.icahd.org/eng/articles.asp?menu=6&submenu=2&article=402

Or does someone have to die before you are able to recognize injustice? Here's some verbage related to home demolition which ends in death.

February 7 2003

Hi friends and family, and others,

I have been in Palestine for two weeks and one hour now, and I still have very few words to describe what I see. It is most difficult for me to think about what's going on here when I sit down to write back to the United States. Something about the virtual portal into luxury. I don't know if many of the children here have ever existed without tank-shell holes in their walls and the towers of an occupying army surveying them constantly from the near horizons. I think, although I'm not entirely sure, that even the smallest of these children understand that life is not like this everywhere. An eight-year-old was shot and killed by an Israeli tank two days before I got here, and many of the children murmur his name to me - Ali - or point at the posters of him on the walls. The children also love to get me to practice my limited Arabic by asking me, "Kaif Sharon?" "Kaif Bush?" and they laugh when I say, "Bush Majnoon", "Sharon Majnoon" back in my limited arabic. (How is Sharon? How is Bush? Bush is crazy. Sharon is crazy.) Of course this isn't quite what I believe, and some of the adults who have the English correct me: "Bush mish Majnoon" ... Bush is a businessman. Today I tried to learn to say, "Bush is a tool", but I don't think it translated quite right. But anyway, there are eight-year-olds here much more aware of the workings of the global power structure than I was just a few years ago.

Nevertheless, no amount of reading, attendance at conferences, documentary viewing and word of mouth could have prepared me for the reality of the situation here. You just can't imagine it unless you see it - and even then you are always well aware that your experience of it is not at all the reality: what with the difficulties the Israeli army would face if they shot an unarmed US citizen, and with the fact that I have money to buy water when the army destroys wells, and the fact, of course, that I have the option of leaving. Nobody in my family has been shot, driving in their car, by a rocket launcher from a tower at the end of a major street in my hometown. I have a home. I am allowed to go see the ocean. When I leave for school or work I can be relatively certain that there will not be a heavily armed soldier waiting halfway between Mud Bay and downtown Olympia at a checkpoint with the power to decide whether I can go about my business, and whether I can get home again when I'm done. As an afterthought to all this rambling, I am in Rafah: a city of about 140,000 people, approximately 60% of whom are refugees - many of whom are twice or three times refugees. Today, as I walked on top of the rubble where homes once stood, Egyptian soldiers called to me from the other side of the border, "Go! Go!" because a tank was coming. And then waving and "What's your name?". Something disturbing about this friendly curiosity. It reminded me of how much, to some degree, we are all kids curious about other kids. Egyptian kids shouting at strange women wandering into the path of tanks. Palestinian kids shot from the tanks when they peak out from behind walls to see what's going on. International kids standing in front of tanks with banners. Israeli kids in the tanks anonymously - occasionally shouting and also occasionally waving - many forced to be here, many just agressive - shooting into the houses as we wander away.

I've been having trouble accessing news about the outside world here, but I hear an escalation of war on Iraq is inevitable. There is a great deal of concern here about the "reoccupation of Gaza". Gaza is reoccupied every day to various extents but I think the fear is that the tanks will enter all the streets and remain here instead of entering some of the streets and then withdrawing after some hours or days to observe and shoot from the edges of the communities. If people aren't already thinking about the consequences of this war for the people of the entire region then I hope you will start.

My love to everyone. My love to my mom. My love to smooch. My love to fg and barnhair and sesamees and Lincoln School. My love to Olympia.



>>>>

February 28 2003



Thanks, Mom, for your response to my email. It really helps me to get word from you, and from other people who care about me.

After I wrote to you I went incommunicado from the affinity group for about 10 hours which I spent with a family on the front line in Hi Salam - who fixed me dinner - and have cable TV. The two front rooms of their house are unusable because gunshots have been fired through the walls, so the whole family - three kids and two parents - sleep in the parent's bedroom. I sleep on the floor next to the youngest daughter, Iman, and we all shared blankets. I helped the son with his English homework a little, and we all watched Pet Semetery, which is a horrifying movie. I think they all thought it was pretty funny how much trouble I had watching it. Friday is the holiday, and when I woke up they were watching Gummy Bears dubbed into Arabic. So I ate breakfast with them and sat there for a while and just enjoyed being in this big puddle of blankets with this family watching what for me seemed like Saturday morning cartoons. Then I walked some way to B'razil, which is where Nidal and Mansur and Grandmother and Rafat and all the rest of the big family that has really wholeheartedly adopted me live. (The other day, by the way, Grandmother gave me a pantomimed lecture in Arabic that involved a lot of blowing and pointing to her black shawl. I got Nidal to tell her that my mother would appreciate knowing that someone here was giving me a lecture about smoking turning my lungs black.) I met their sister-in-law, who is visiting from Nusserat camp, and played with her small baby.

Nidal's English gets better every day. He's the one who calls me, "My sister". He started teaching Grandmother how to say, "Hello. How are you?" In English. You can always hear the tanks and bulldozers passing by, but all of these people are genuinely cheerful with each other, and with me. When I am with Palestinian friends I tend to be somewhat less horrified than when I am trying to act in a role of human rights observer, documenter, or direct-action resister. They are a good example of how to be in it for the long haul. I know that the situation gets to them - and may ultimately get them - on all kinds of levels, but I am nevertheless amazed at their strength in being able to defend such a large degree of their humanity - laughter, generosity, family-time - against the incredible horror occurring in their lives and against the constant presence of death. I felt much better after this morning. I spent a lot of time writing about the disappointment of discovering, somewhat first-hand, the degree of evil of which we are still capable. I should at least mention that I am also discovering a degree of strength and of basic ability for humans to remain human in the direst of circumstances - which I also haven't seen before. I think the word is dignity. I wish you could meet these people. Maybe, hopefully, someday you will...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/mar/18/usa.israel

Crouching on the earth, almost like a supplicant in prayer, she placed her right foot behind her left and rested her right knee on the ground. Looking toward the bulletproof windows, she could probably see the silhouettes of two Israeli operators. The steel blade began pushing a huge pile of debris and sandy soil toward her, so close that the scent of the moist earth permeated her nostrils. The ground began to shift beneath her feet. Tom Dale was standing a few yards from Corrie as the bulldozer got close. "The bulldozer built up earth in front of it. Its blade was slightly dug into the earth," he told me. "She began to stand up. The earth was pushed over her feet. She tried to climb on top of the earth, to avoid being overwhelmed. She climbed to the point where her shoulders were above the top lip of the blade. She was standing on this pile of earth. As the bulldozer continued, she lost her footing, and she turned and fell down this pile of earth. Then it seemed like she got her foot caught under the blade. She was helpless, pushed prostrate, and looked absolutely panicked, with her arms out, and the earth was piling itself over her. The bulldozer continued so that the place where she fell down was directly beneath the cockpit. I think she would have been between the treads. The whole [incident] took place in about six or seven seconds."

http://bsd.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/09/ma_497_01.html

Still don't recognize injustice? How about now?

 

[Zzarchov]

Sorry EAO, you've just lost this.

You've gone from debating to points to making false claims and attributing them to people who disagree with you.

ITN had no comments about not seeing Injustice, in fact he said he did see injustice. And then commented about how no one sees injustice in rocket attacks on civilians.


You then tried to say he didn't see anything wrong in demolishing homes. At this point you aren't interested in debate you just want to preach and smear people who disagree.

Seriously, I would calm down and respond then.

 

[earth_as_one]

Sorry EAO, you've just lost this.

You've gone from debating to points to making false claims and attributing them to people who disagree with you.

ITN had no comments about not seeing Injustice, in fact he said he did see injustice. And then commented about how no one sees injustice in rocket attacks on civilians.


You then tried to say he didn't see anything wrong in demolishing homes. At this point you aren't interested in debate you just want to preach and smear people who disagree.

Seriously, I would calm down and respond then.

Which ITN post do you reference? My last posts referenced Just the Facts. You'll have to be more specific.

My last post in response this:

Quoting Just the Facts All that verbage and after wasting my time reading it all, no reported casualties.

Yeah, Israel demolishes houses, that's not in dispute, you don't need to prove it. They've taken a lot of flack for it from the world community and have even agreed to stop doing it, although they don't seem to have followed through on that yet.

Still, how many Palestinians were killed in the demolition of a house?

Now if only the world community would give the Palestinians as much flack for firing rockets at children as the world community gives Israel for knocking down buildings, we might make some progress.​

Which statement here identifies or acknowledges that demolishing people's homes is unjust. I interpreted his point to mean that demolition Palestinian homes is perfectly acceptable as long as no one is killed.

Perhaps I misinterpreted his meaning... Maybe JTF would like to clarify his meaning.

Do you believe demolishing thousands of Palestinian homes is just?

Through No Fault of Their Own: Israel's Punitive House Demolitions in the al-Aqsa Intifada



Principle findings:

• The Since the beginning of the al-Aqsa intifada, the IDF has demolished 628 housing units, which were home to 3,983 persons.

• These homes were demolished because of the acts of 333 Palestinians. On average, 12 innocent people lost their home for every person suspected of participation in attacks against Israelis.

• Almost half of the homes demolished (295 - 47%) were never home to anyone suspected of involvement in attacks against Israelis. As a result of these demolitions, 1,286 persons lost their homes even though according to Israeli officials they should not have been punished.

• Contrary to its argument before the High Court of Justice that prior warning is given except in extraordinary cases, B'Tselem's figures indicate that in only 3% of the cases were occupants given prior notification of the IDF's intention to demolish their home.

• Extensive destruction of property in occupied territories, without military necessity, constitutes a war crime.

more here:
http://www.btselem.org/english/publications/summaries/200411_punitive_house_demolitions.asp

 

[Just the Facts]

Or does someone have to die before you are able to recognize injustice? Here's some verbage related to home demolition which ends in death.

Yeah I already acknowledged Rachel Corrie. I'll repeat, since you obviously don't put anywhere near the amount of effort into reading my posts and links as I do yours... she's not Palestinian, and was not in a house being demolished.

Someone has to die before you can tell me someone has died. My point was that Israeli's evacuate the houses they demolish. The response to that was:

You begin with an unsupported statement that you invariably back up with standard industrial spin.

You've gone to great lengths to prove my suspicion that Israel does indeed evacuate the residents of homes before demolishing them. Thank you.

I also assume by your posts that your answer is yes, you would prefer if Israel would stop demolishing vacant houses and fire crude rockets at the general population instread.

* TOTAL 18,147

All those demolitions and not a single casualty. I hope the Palestinians fare better against crude rockets.