Really? I've been to many hobby shops and I've never seen rockets like these. Ever. Maybe you guys got bigger rockets than us.
Firecrackers? I'd like to see back up on that.
Israel - The Right to exist as a State?
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Really? I've been to many hobby shops and I've never seen rockets like these. Ever. Maybe you guys got bigger rockets than us.
Firecrackers? I'd like to see back up on that.
The reason for the conflict is over land right? Give the land back to the Palestinians would seem to be another way to stop the rockets. Tell the UN that after careful consideration perhaps they could find another place to live until Christ returns.
A dollar store globe this time? LMFAO...Abe Foxman and his crack crew of Pro-Semite fascists are at it again?
If anyone needs to be "removed" to encourage world peace, Foxman would top the list.
Almost as funny as the idiots who panic at the site of a certain ancient Tibetan good luck symbol
If anyone needs to be "removed" to encourage world peace, Foxman would top the list.
Almost as funny as the idiots who panic at the site of a certain ancient Tibetan good luck symbol
Well that is what it is all about...getting rid of the Jewish people.
Give it back to the Palestinians or to Jordan and the Arab Alliance who occupied the area before is was partitioned by the UN? Who was the President of Palestine before 1948?
Perhaps the Palestinians can just stop firing rockets and mortars.
The fact that Hamas is idiot enough to attack one of the world's most effectively armed nations with the technological equivalent of thrown rocks does NOT remove that nation's right to defend itself........
Simple concept, no???
Don't bring a rock to a gunfight.
And, BTW, your facts are crap. (no surprize there).... According to the UK Guardian (hardly a hot spot of Israeli propaganda!) newspaper in December of 2008.....19 Israelis were killed between 2002 and that time. Hundreds were injured.
Building worker killed as missile hits Israeli town | World news | The Guardian
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This isn't the most detailed vid available, according to the speaker DU stays active for a very long time, in 100 years the genocide will be complete, anybody moving into those areas will die the same way.
MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching it
It probably is a lot safer in solid form, it is when it is made into dust and breathed in that it does the damage over the lifetime of the person. Fish-mouth is one such mutation that is 'common'. Course their parents breathed in the most dust.
It is about moving them from a hostile area. They were supposed to buy all the land they would gain over the years, instead they chose to use terror to steal the land. That is how you create refugees, that is how you end up swinging from the neck for war-crimes.
Churchill was their President, their right should have been equal to any British subject. Even Independence didn't cut all strings from Britain for Canada..
Without getting the land back??? Perhaps they love their land just as much as the Afghan's love theirs.
Moving a people from where they are not wanted is a civilized way of dealing the unending problem.
In a more practical way (compared to moving everybody)perhaps the Palestinians will rent out the property until Christ returns, back dated to Sept of '47. Too broke for any spending so their goes the need for a military of a government. Perhaps the 10 who voted against the UN proposal (objects were never addressed further voiding the document) could make up some sort of interm gov. Make the whole place a weapons free zone and give everybody a cell phone capable of recording video. No video no charges.
You already know nobody in the world would raise their hand and donate some of their land to become their camp until they are called home.
Making a mistake is one thing, letting it continue after everybody know it is a mistake is quite another thing, perhaps even worse than the original mistake.
Oh RIGHT!
First of all there are 5 and one half million Israeli Jews....move' em. Right.
Secondly Israeli is their ancient homeland.
Third......Israel is a western, democratic, rule-of-law nation, an island of sanity surrounded by fascists, loonies, and Islamists....I see no reason to let the bad guys win.
Fourth.....where on earth do you think you will find a land NOT hostile to the Jews??? I mean, it worked so well the first time they were driven from the Holy Land..... 8O (sarcasm alert)
Fifth....Jews ARE wanted in Israel....it's all them folks outside Israel got a problem....**** 'em.
Sixth....Churchill was their President????? In what dimension????? :lol:
Seventh....no mistake was made....
Oh, and Eighth....just a minor point.....how do you intend to force a country with one of the best military machines on earth....and as many as 200 nukes....to abandon the land of their heritage and their dreams????
Good Luck with that!
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I sort of meant that once the courts decided they were in breech of UN181 and that voided their (legal) reason for being there these days then the actual land would be returned to the owners prior when it was signed. Civil suits could go back to the 1880's if Rothchild enterprises is taken into account as to how all events came about.
God put them in exile back when Babylon was ruled by Neb. That was the last time they were an independent Nation. God allowed them to have a temple so Jesus could fulfill some prophecies concerning the Messiah, once that was done the temple was destroyed and the people taken captive into the Nations. The return requires a temple be standing, one that Christ alone builds (as in His hands). Their being there was under the conditions set out in a covenant, they gave up those rights when they started living outside the Holy Law. Christian Law is even more demanding.
Sanity isn't the issue, legal right to the land is the issue. In this case the ones taking the land by terror and force etc are the bad guys, you distort the truth when you don't have that one as #1. Gorilla warfare is the standard tactic against a more powerful enemy.
Beside when a rocket from Gaza hits anything the ones that shot it probably say, "Damn, we hit something, better take cover before the B-52's arrive." Opposed to dancing and cheering when they see their projectiles hit home.
Actually in Daniel's time it worked out quite well for Daniel and a few friends. Course having God helping helped quite a bit. The Jews and Gentiles of today lack that sort or guidance.
And outside, apparently Britain even has to fiddle with the current laws to make travel save for (wait for it) just Israelis. What with that and the coming neck-tie party you could say they will be wanted by the world.
They were under British rule ever since the helped the Brits win in WWI.
There was only army personnel so it would be like Britain under martial law than one where the people had more than basic rights.
Only from your vantage point.
Cut off their money, tell them everything in their new home will be wholesale. You would need to expands the ways out.
So what number does their number have to dwindle to before you are willing to call it genocide? The 6 M refugees should be counted as the dead as Israel has refused to recognize them since it began.
Further information: Palestinian refugee camps
The number of Palestine refugees varies depending on the source. For 1948-49 refugees, for example, the Israeli government suggests a number as low as 520,000 as opposed to 850,000 by their Palestine counterparts. The UNRWA cites 726,000 people.[28]
The number of descendents of Palestinian refugees by country as of 2005 were as follows:
- Jordan 1,827,877 refugees
- Gaza 986,034 refugees
- West Bank 699,817 refugees
- Syria 432,048 refugees
- Lebanon 404,170 refugees
- Saudi Arabia 240,000 refugees
- Egypt 70,245 refugees[1]
You claim they have ancient rights to the land, granted by God. The Bible doesn't support a land grab by the Chosen People at this part of the program.
I said the exile in Babylon was good for a 'handful'. The event of 70 AD was God's reaction to the killing of Stephen and persecution of the Christians by the Jews.
Perhaps you are willing to call the NT a anti-semite piece of trash????
Oh Baloney! first of all these were the DESCENDANTS of legitimate refugees, of which there were close to 800,000.....many who left on the advice of the ARABS!!!!
As well, you could call it a population exchange, as the Arab nations expelled 800,000 Jews around the same period....Gee, nobody is crying about THEIR descendants, are they? WHY NOT??????
In all of Israels wars, including the first one, there were LESS than 50,000 dead, including BOTH SIDES of the conflict. Try again.
the disapora was the reaction of the Romans to continuing Jewish nationalism and rebellion......
BUT I would be interested in a Biblical quote that supports your position......bets are you can't find one....
Anybody who has been moving into those areas? Mostly those areas have been unihabited for millions of years.
To say the genocide will be complete is lets say...a stretch.
Small pox wiped out hundreds of thousands world wide...even Europeans...whom I suppose don't count to much in the world of the politically correct.
"Israel - The Right to exist as a State?"
Seeing as people want countries and whatnot in the first place, I don't think it's particularly wise to refuse one group of people from having a country. The problem lies in what real estate they should have, I think.
Personally, I think creating borders creates barriers between people. The fewer borders, the fewer barriers. Homo sapiens is one single species and not one brand of our species is any better than another. But between politics and religion, we have erected these barriers and superiority issues. This is extremely stupid and incredibly foolish.
Seeing as people want countries and whatnot in the first place, I don't think it's particularly wise to refuse one group of people from having a country. The problem lies in what real estate they should have, I think.
Personally, I think creating borders creates barriers between people. The fewer borders, the fewer barriers. Homo sapiens is one single species and not one brand of our species is any better than another. But between politics and religion, we have erected these barriers and superiority issues. This is extremely stupid and incredibly foolish.
Look the Jewish people aren't moving. They simply aren't. Perhaps we should start by moving the Saxons from Britain.
Gosh do you have a back up that Winston Churchill was the President of Palestine?
Sophmoric.
The Jewish people are not going to leave and if they are attacked they will respond. They are a part of the UN and that is pretty much that until they get ejected. Before that happens though many areas will be turned to glass. The Sampson Priniciple...Israel will bring the roof down on everyone and the Arabs can rule a radioactive wasteland.
Other means must be explored.
An admission of 800,000 war crimes, your handlers are going to be so displeased with you ..... again.
Jer:31:8:
Behold,
I will bring them from the north country,
and gather them from the coasts of the earth,
and with them the blind and the lame,
the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together:
a great company shall return thither.
Jer:31:9:
They shall come with weeping,
and with supplications will I lead them:
I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way,
wherein they shall not stumble:
for I am a father to Israel,
and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Jer:31:10:
Hear the word of the LORD,
O ye nations,
and declare it in the isles afar off,
and say,
He that scattered Israel will gather him,
and keep him,
as a shepherd doth his flock.
Eze:39:26:
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
Eze:39:27:
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze:39:28:
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen:
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.
Eze:39:29:
Neither will I hide my face any more from them:
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.
You need to consult a map that shows just where those dust particles are. The extreme mutations already showing up in birth defects will continue, sooner or later they won't be capable of having normal children and they will die off. They do have surviving relatives outside the contaminated area. The land will cause birth defects for anybody new who come along for a lot longer than 100 years.
Even the Black Death wasn't intentionally spread around, therein lies the difference.
You don't seem to support Gaza receiving a few S-400 anti-aircraft systems on credit from Russia do you? That could be their form of defense that fits the profile you seem to allow. Israel could always ask the UN to move them to a safer location. The Sinai is pretty close.