Israel takes control of pro-Palestinian activist ship with Canadian aboard

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Wow! Some of you are just plain f*ucking stupid. The ship was in international waters. Israel has no jurisdiction to do anything. It was basically an act of war against any nation with people on board.

You guys do make me chuckle with your hypocrisy though. Ranting on about these bad arabs and those bad Muslims all the while supporting illegal wars and illegal actions by Nato, Israel, and the US. Why don't you get a set of morals and stick to them. Either its ok for.all nations to do.something or its not ok for all nations.
 

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Israel's very survival is at stake. Damned right they will stop ANY ship attempting to sail to Gaza.

Only the most stupid would think that they can somehow evade this.

Personally, I think the best way to handle this is to confiscate the ship, and force every person aboard to walk out of Israel!
Explain how a ship filled with humanitarian aid and crewed with lawmakers, peace activists and journalists threaten's "Israel's survival".

IMO the ship is essentially harmless. Its sole purpose is to raise your awareness of the Netanyahu's regime's cruel treatment of millions of fellow human beings. Success!

Now that you are aware that that the Netanyahu regime collectively.punishes millions of people in an attempt to make them suffer poverty and misery, you might also want to know the root cause which is a 60+ year ethnic cleansing war. Guess which side is winning? (Hint its the side armed with nukes)

The usual suspects will of course claim that pointing this out proves I hate Jews and Israelis. But that's simply NOT True! Their purpose is to stifle debate and insult anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, ... and other noise.

I support anyone who non-violently struggles against injustice and oppression, including the Jewish and Israeli crew members on this ship:.. Who are there to make a point that some Israelis and Jews support freedom and justice:

...The commandos found 17 European activists aboard the ship, including three Israeli peace activists, and several crew members. The ship was towed to Ashdod after the commandos completed the operation with the help of Israeli missile ships which surrounded the Estelle before it was boarded.​
Israel Hayom | Israel Navy intercepts Gaza-bound Swedish vessel


No Canadians?
How can a war be illegal if its sanctioned by NATO ?
Know much ?
Muslims have yet to gain the respect of all nations. They have a long long way to go.
NATO does not define international law.

This list of treaties defines the law of war:
Laws of war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki about the Canadian on board
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James Douglas Manly (born 29 October 1932 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan) was a New Democratic Party member of the Canadian House of Commons. He was a clergyman, factory worker and logger by career.

...He has remained active in peace and social justice issues and has engaged in Central American solidarity work on behalf of the United Church.[4] In 1997, he wrote The Wounds of Manuel Saquic : Biblical Reflections from Guatemala. Published by the United Church's publishing arm, the book explored the issues of poverty, justice, solidarity and liberation theology in Guatemala and Central America linking issues with biblical passages.[1] He also served as a member of the United Church's British Columbia task force on residential schools and recommended that the church apologize to aboriginal Canadians for its role in the institutions.[5] ...

James Manly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Wow! Some of you are just plain f*ucking stupid.
No nearly as stupid as your following claim makes you...

The ship was in international waters. Israel has no jurisdiction to do anything. It was basically an act of war against any nation with people on board.
That stupidity has already been proven wrong by countless legal experts and the UN, lol.

Explain how a ship filled with humanitarian aid and crewed with lawmakers, peace activists and journalists threaten's "Israel's survival".

IMO the ship is essentially harmless. Its sole purpose is to raise your awareness of the Netanyahu's regime's cruel treatment of millions of fellow human beings. Success!

Now that you are aware that that the Netanyahu regime collectively.punishes millions of people, you might also want to know the root cause which is a 60+ year ethnic cleansing war. Guess which side is winning? (Hint its the side armed with nukes)
Nice bit of propaganda, lol.
The usual suspects will of course claim that pointing this out proves I hate Jews and Israelis.
You and your buddies will claim you hate Jews and Israelis?

It would be nice to see you finally admit it.

But that's simply NOT True!
Yes it is. It's been proven countless times.

Their purpose is to stifle debate and insult anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, ... and other noise.
You mean like your use of pedophilia, apologist, supporter of war crimes and crimes against humanity?

Your hypocrisy and double standards have not been a secret for some time.

NATO does not define international law.
Neither does AI or the Red Cross.
 

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Wow! Some of you are just plain f*ucking stupid. The ship was in international waters. Israel has no jurisdiction to do anything. It was basically an act of war against any nation with people on board.

You guys do make me chuckle with your hypocrisy though. Ranting on about these bad arabs and those bad Muslims all the while supporting illegal wars and illegal actions by Nato, Israel, and the US. Why don't you get a set of morals and stick to them. Either its ok for.all nations to do.something or its not ok for all nations.

WRONG.

The Israelis have set up a perfectly legal blockade. Under International Law (which is, of course, a joke....but) a blockade is legal if the nation blockaded is involved in hostilities with the nation boarding...........after the initial outrage at the IDF boarding that resulted in a number of idiots dead, it was judged a completely legal boarding.......

BTW, Canadian soldiers have been boarding and searching ships in international waters since 1991.
 

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Still the safest place in the ME for Christians. Anti-missionary laws or not, what's the worse that can happen if you "open-air preach" in Israel? Someone might spit on you? Ha! People do that here if you preach publicly!
There are oodles of Christians living safer and happier in other ME countries. I've been to Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt where I had the freedom to roam around and climb on things, go camping, eat their foods. We didn't go to Israel/Palestine becaue everything is regimented, no freedom to tour at will and it was freakin' insanely expensive. Would you go see the Holyland if everywhere you went somebody was there watching and your Religion's sacred sights were fortresses with bars and turn styles and metal detectors? Not even close to that in Lebanon and Jordan at the sacred sites.
what's the worse that can happen if you "open-air preach" in Israel? Someone might spit on you? Ha! People do that here if you preach publicly!
Spitting is assault in Canada. Loogie or fist it's the same charge. You feel it's okay for Israelis or anyone for that matter to go around assaulting Christians? Why are Christians being assualted in a so-called secular nation? Do think that maybe along with spitting comes other forms of violence and terrorism against the unwanted Christians?

Further, the link you provided says that proselytizing is allowed provided it's "devoid of coercion in the form of economic or emotional incentives". (Whatever the heck that means.)
What the heck that means is if I'm talking to a Jew about Jesus and the Jew finds "that joy, joy, joy down in his heart" of Chrisitanity he has been emotionally enticed. If he wants to know more and I give him a Bible (books have monetary value) It's an economic gain.

That's FIVE YEARS in the pokey.

That sounds like something the Nazis would do.
 

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That goes without saying.

BTW, Canadian soldiers have been boarding and searching ships in international waters since 1991.
He's going to tell you they're doing it illegally.

Two ultra left sources are very suspect in their veracity.
Not that it matter, neither says what he claimed.

There are oodles of Christians living safer and happier in other ME countries. I've been to Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt where I had the freedom to roam around and climb on things, go camping, eat their foods. We didn't go to Israel/Palestine becaue everything is regimented, no freedom to tour at will and it was freakin' insanely expensive. Would you go see the Holyland if everywhere you went somebody was there watching and your Religion's sacred sights were fortresses with bars and turn styles and metal detectors? Not even close to that in Lebanon and Jordan at the sacred sites.
That isn't entirely Israels fault, and has been made a necessity by war factions.

Spitting is assault in Canada. Loogie or fist it's the same charge. You feel it's okay for Israelis or anyone for that matter to go around assaulting Christians? Why are Christians being assualted in a so-called secular nation? Do think that maybe along with spitting comes other forms of violence and terrorism against the unwanted Christians?
It's not state sanctioned.

What the heck that means is if I'm talking to a Jew about Jesus and the Jew finds "that joy, joy, joy down in his heart" of Chrisitanity he has been emotionally enticed. If he wants to know more and I give him a Bible (books have monetary value) It's an economic gain.

That's FIVE YEARS in the pokey.
BS.

That sounds like something the Nazis would do.
You shouldn't lend EAO your account password.
 

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Explain how a ship filled with humanitarian aid and crewed with lawmakers, peace activists and journalists threaten's "Israel's survival".

IMO the ship is essentially harmless. Its sole purpose is to raise your awareness of the Netanyahu's regime's cruel treatment of millions of fellow human beings. Success!

How would anyone know that there is only humanitarian aid on board unless the boat is stopped and searched? There is a route to send humanitarian aid without trying to run the blockade. You really think Israel is going to take the word of terrorists that they are not smuggling weapons into Gaza?
 

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How can a war be illegal if its sanctioned by NATO ?
Know much ?
Muslims have yet to gain the respect of all nations. They have a long long way to go.

I must have missed that official declaration of war regarding....well anything NATO has done since before Bosnia. Jst because a group (ie NATO) decides to invade a foreign sovereign nation doesn't make it legal under the Geneva conventions or international laws. The US, Nato and allies have broken many international laws recently and have completely ignored the Geneva conventions. I don't want to be part of anything that preaches all this BS about law & order yet continually breaks international law when it is perceived as beneficial for the west.

You can all dump more red on this because it doesn't matter coming from the hypocrites. And YES, I am call you hypocrites!
 

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You run a roadblock, you get busted. Simple....

Bit of a difference between a roadblock on the highway and warships boarding a vessel in international waters. Nobody has any right to board a vessel in international waters unless here is a declared state of war between the vessel's respective nations. Any other time it is breach of the law of the sea. Plain & simple! You can all banter about how different situations mitigate breach of the law but it is all self-serving BS from a bunch of hypocrites!.

Explain how a ship filled with humanitarian aid and crewed with lawmakers, peace activists and journalists threaten's "Israel's survival".

IMO the ship is essentially harmless. Its sole purpose is to raise your awareness of the Netanyahu's regime's cruel treatment of millions of fellow human beings. Success!

How would anyone know that there is only humanitarian aid on board unless the boat is stopped and searched? There is a route to send humanitarian aid without trying to run the blockade. You really think Israel is going to take the word of terrorists that they are not smuggling weapons into Gaza?

Why would we take the word of Israel (who are sworn to deny Palestinian rights and claims and basically destroy Palestine forever by any means necessary including acts of terrorism) that they believe there are weapons being smuggled.

As I have always said and believed. There are 3 sides to all disputes....your side, my side, and the truth! Israel does not have clean hands in this dispute by any stretch and have in fact been the aggressor for most of it.
 

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Bit of a difference between a roadblock on the highway and warships boarding a vessel in international waters. Nobody has any right to board a vessel in international waters unless here is a declared state of war between the vessel's respective nations. Any other time it is breach of the law of the sea. Plain & simple! You can all banter about how different situations mitigate breach of the law but it is all self-serving BS from a bunch of hypocrites!.

The Coast Guard, DEA, ATF and Immigration do it all the time outside a formal state of war
 

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The Coast Guard, DEA, ATF and Immigration do it all the time outside a formal state of war

That doesn't make it legal or right. Organized crime steals millions of cars every year, does that mean it's ok to steal a car?

International waters fall under the law of the sea (maritime law) which makes boarding a vessel without actual war existing an act of piracy. Sure it happens and you accept it because your govt tells you it is for your protection and best interest but it is still piracy under the law.