Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[MHz]

Show me where I asked for something,

:roll: So? You're laughing while people are dying. *shrugs*

DON"T USE THE "I" WORD YOU WILL GET THE THREAD SHUT DOWN

or is that your intent? The ROLF was at you for refusing to read up on your heros.
" what purpose is there to insist that everyone else has done the same as <insert a people's name here besides Israelis>"

 

[ironsides]

You couldn't just post a sentence describing what you were going to post a link to and then the link and then explain how it has anything to do with Israel's attack on the aid ships?

Like anyone is going to bother reading through all that.:roll:

Saudi Arabia is going to help Israel attack aid ships by air now? How does this tie in with the aid ship attack?

Israel maybe to busy to worry about blockade runners.

 

[MHz]

Israel maybe to busy to worry about blockade runners.

You're absolutely right.


(in part)
Sedat Laçiner, head of the Ankara-based International Strategic Research Organization (USAK), told Sunday’s Zaman that there are some groups in Israel actively working with the PKK using its Iranian wing, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK), which has been waging a war in western Iran. He said the link is more than a simple conspiracy theory, it’s a substantiated one as some members of Mossad and retired Israeli military officers were spotted training Kurdish fighters in the northern Iraqi Kurdish region.
The fact that an attack on Turkish soldiers came on the same day Israeli soldiers attacked a humanitarian aid convoy in international waters led by a Turkish ship raised suspicions that Israel may be involved with the PKK. The fact that the Kurdish terrorist group, based in northern Iraq, announced on June 1 that they had ended their unilateral cease-fire with Turkey has reinforced the theory that Israel is somehow linked with the PKK.
While speaking to reporters last week in Ankara, Interior Minister Beşir Atalay emphasized that they have been investigating both attacks extensively. “We have been working hard, especially to ascertain what happened in the İskenderun incident,” he said, signaling that the government is also looking into alleged connections. Last year Atalay remarked at a party convention that he was deeply offended by the news that the Israeli army trained troops in northern Iraq.

Suspicion growing about possible link between PKK and Israel

 

[lone wolf]

Blah.... I think there should be a blockade placed around the whole Muddled East so Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Israel and any terror freedom control wannabes we can vacuum into the mix have to either sort out their differences and learn to get along or blast themselves to oblivion.

 

[MHz]

Why don't we just back out and come home, we are more than half the problem. If they do something bad we can boycott their oil. Banning gasoline imports, WhoTF in the military uses gas anymore (napalm was used on the Liberty by Israel in '67 , but other than that). So what is Iranian oil heavy in. They can probably pour it straight from the spout right into the turbines.

I see shoulder fired missiles were on the list also, good thing for Iran that they already have a hand-held device for combat against attack helicopters. Don't forget to what happened on that aborted hostage rescue. Forgot to put on air-filters, OMG, did anybody even believe that one anymore than the one about super-hero President that was so terrifying that the hostages were let go the moment he climbed into the saddle.

Perhaps Mossad should adapt this motto for the operation 'Little Big Horn"

Blah.... I think there should be a blockade placed around the whole Muddled East so Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Israel and any terror freedom control wannabes we can vacuum into the mix have to either sort out their differences and learn to get along or blast themselves to oblivion.

You are assuming that if we left they would still want war. They have lasted side-by-side for 5,000 years. In the last 500 years we have killed almost everybody we have met. I thought you went to school at some time in your past???? Nobody believes the 'we'll get it right next time" anymore.

 

[Ron in Regina]

OK....Folks....unfortunately there's lots going on in the real word for the
Mod's this weekend I'm assuming. I know Shadowshiv is tied up, as I
will be for the next 6-8hrs....& have been much of the day. I haven't
had a chance to talk to Hazmart today...

Can I get a volunteer to count the posts in, let say, the last four pages
please? Noting a total of posts, & a separate total of posts that have
had to be edited. Take the smaller number & divide it by the bigger
one, to come up with a percentage of posts edited in this Thread
recently....for the same repetitive B.S. that Green Ink has been
posted for already in this Thread. It'll be an eye-opener, I'm
assuming.

If this Thread has to be closed, it'll be at least later in the day Sunday
before I'd have time to start plodding through it next...& I can't speak
of the time-commitments of the other Mods.

 

[ironsides]

You're absolutely right.


(in part)
Sedat Laçiner, head of the Ankara-based International Strategic Research Organization (USAK), told Sunday’s Zaman that there are some groups in Israel actively working with the PKK using its Iranian wing, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK), which has been waging a war in western Iran. He said the link is more than a simple conspiracy theory, it’s a substantiated one as some members of Mossad and retired Israeli military officers were spotted training Kurdish fighters in the northern Iraqi Kurdish region.
The fact that an attack on Turkish soldiers came on the same day Israeli soldiers attacked a humanitarian aid convoy in international waters led by a Turkish ship raised suspicions that Israel may be involved with the PKK. The fact that the Kurdish terrorist group, based in northern Iraq, announced on June 1 that they had ended their unilateral cease-fire with Turkey has reinforced the theory that Israel is somehow linked with the PKK.
While speaking to reporters last week in Ankara, Interior Minister Beşir Atalay emphasized that they have been investigating both attacks extensively. “We have been working hard, especially to ascertain what happened in the İskenderun incident,” he said, signaling that the government is also looking into alleged connections. Last year Atalay remarked at a party convention that he was deeply offended by the news that the Israeli army trained troops in northern Iraq.

Suspicion growing about possible link between PKK and Israel

This world is getting more complicated day by day. If they are helping the Kurds, more power to them. No one is offering the Kurds any help in their struggle to survive.

 

[MHz]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

Australia expels Israeli diplomat over Dubai killing

Page last updated at 11:45 GMT, Monday, 24 May 2010 12:45 UK

Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was killed in his hotel room in Dubai on 19 January Australia has expelled an Israeli diplomat saying Israel was behind the forging of Australian passports linked to the murder of a Hamas operative in Dubai.





BBC News - Australia expels Israeli diplomat over Dubai killing

There is a rumor that he will be traveling through Turkey on the way home.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

You're absolutely right.


(in part)
Sedat Laçiner, head of the Ankara-based International Strategic Research Organization (USAK), told Sunday’s Zaman that there are some groups in Israel actively working with the PKK using its Iranian wing, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK), which has been waging a war in western Iran. He said the link is more than a simple conspiracy theory, it’s a substantiated one as some members of Mossad and retired Israeli military officers were spotted training Kurdish fighters in the northern Iraqi Kurdish region.
The fact that an attack on Turkish soldiers came on the same day Israeli soldiers attacked a humanitarian aid convoy in international waters led by a Turkish ship raised suspicions that Israel may be involved with the PKK. The fact that the Kurdish terrorist group, based in northern Iraq, announced on June 1 that they had ended their unilateral cease-fire with Turkey has reinforced the theory that Israel is somehow linked with the PKK.
While speaking to reporters last week in Ankara, Interior Minister Beşir Atalay emphasized that they have been investigating both attacks extensively. “We have been working hard, especially to ascertain what happened in the İskenderun incident,” he said, signaling that the government is also looking into alleged connections. Last year Atalay remarked at a party convention that he was deeply offended by the news that the Israeli army trained troops in northern Iraq.

Suspicion growing about possible link between PKK and Israel

So, do you think that the Kurds are wrong to want freedom?

 

[Goober]

So, do you think that the Kurds are wrong to want freedom?

Turkey is well on its way to an Islamic - Theocratic and Fascist State.

 

[MHz]

This world is getting more complicated day by day. If they are helping the Kurds, more power to them. No one is offering the Kurds any help in their struggle to survive.

Are you advocating that Israel has the right of offer support to groups that are terrorists to the Government of Iran?

"Israel actively working with the PKK using its Iranian wing, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK), which has been waging a war in western Iran. "

 

[Cliffy]

Turkey is well on its way to an Islamic - Theocratic and Fascist State.

Don't tell Selin that. She might have your balls for breakfast.

 

[petros]

Turkey is well on its way to an Islamic - Theocratic and Fascist State.

Turkey is a total blast to travel to. Some of the friendliest people on the planet they'll be part of the EU long before going haywire like Pakistan or Syria.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

Turkey is well on its way to an Islamic - Theocratic and Fascist State.

That didn't answer my question - are the Kurds entitled to an autonomous state?

Turkey is well on its way to an Islamic - Theocratic and Fascist State.

I mean, they (the Kurds) obviously din't feel that they are respected for who and what they are, they feel like second class citizens - it's not as if they just moved in to that area - they've been there for milenia. Turkey takes a Kurd, Saladin, one of the most honorable warriors and statesmen - and claims him as a Turk - no mention that he was a Kurd - the whole Kurdish culture and history has been taken by the Turkish government and put to the side - why should they want to be 'Turks'? They might live in Turkey, but they are Kurds, with their own history. Tell me, do they have the right to be independent?

 

[petros]

The Kurds were the only Iraqis to benefit from the invasion and occupation.

 

[MHz]

That didn't answer my question - are the Kurds entitled to an autonomous state?

Who do they want to belong to? It doesn't seem like Turkey is interested in taking up the 'good neighbor again'. The US is there to unite the country in peace and brotherhood, can't do that if everybody wants to scatter off in every damn direction.

There will peace in that whole country even if everybody has to die to achieve it.

 

[lone wolf]

You are assuming that if we left they would still want war. They have lasted side-by-side for 5,000 years. In the last 500 years we have killed almost everybody we have met. I thought you went to school at some time in your past???? Nobody believes the 'we'll get it right next time" anymore.

Did you see a one-sided assumption there? It's an either/or situation ... unless you happen to be selective reading.

 

[petros]

Who do they want to belong to? It doesn't seem like Turkey is interested in taking up the 'good neighbor again'. The US is there to unite the country in peace and brotherhood, can't do that if everybody wants to scatter off in every damn direction.

There will peace in that whole country even if everybody has to die to achieve it.

Iraq will end up being three inpedendant states so they remain fighting and never gain unity and power again.

 

[MHz]

Iraq will end up being three inpedendant states so they remain fighting and never gain unity and power again.

So sniping will become a tri-country sport.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

The Kurds were the only Iraqis to benefit from the invasion and occupation.

I don't know about that, but I do know that Sadaam Husein treated the Kurds worse than what he would scrape of the bottom of his shoe. He had no problem poisoning a whole town - the helpless, the old, women, babies, old people included - just because they were Kurdish. Tell me, should they apologize for benefiting from his downfall?