Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

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Down_home_women, put yourself in the place of a Palestinian peasant farmer in the 1930's. All you want to do is raise a few goats, plant a few subsistence crops and live in peace with your neighbors just like your parents before you, going back at least 400 years. Suddenly the countryside is overrun by hundreds of thousands of European Jewish refugees fleeing the horrors of Nazi Germany. They start an ethnic cleansing war, chase you out your house and off your land. You pass your retirement years suffering disease and malnutrition in a refugee camp in Gaza, bombed on a daily basis thanks to tens of billions in American military aid. You have no nationality or rights even to basic foods, potable water, raw sewage flows in the streets because the immigrants bombed the sewer and water treatment plants. They block humanitarian aid which would make your miserable existence barely tolerable.

Would you be pissed?
 

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It's not a utopia - it's not perfect.

no ****.

It's a bunch of people trying to live - to exist.
what the hell do u think Gaza is? Gazans are an oppressed nation of muslims that Israel makes difficult as possible to live an enjoyable life.

and you wonder , ooh why don't all those muslim countries look favorably on jewish people? is it possibly because they see israel , a nation of jews, tramping on a territory of muslims?
 

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Yes there are voting Arabs in Israel. That fact in no way has curtailed Israels discrimination against Arab Israeli citizens .......
Read up on that Arab lady MP that was on the flotilla, there was talk of yanking her citizenship. Israel is also thinking of yanking the voting right of any Jew that is married to an Arab (Egypt is going to do the reverse BTW)

AT LEAST - in the Israeli system there is recourse. If there is something wrong, at least there is a legal system to fight it. You seem to expect perfection from Israel, but are very willing to to not expect it from Muslim countries. Why the double standard?
When the position of a section of the wall was ruled to be illegal the Israeli Courts ruled that is had to be moved, this is about 5 years later and nothing has been moved and no appeales were filed. Israel does not obey her own Courts and the Courts refuse to do anything to enforce their rulings when Arabs win the case.

So really who has the double standard? How many times had the US interfered with Gaza being able to file grievances with the ICC? At the count of one instance your whole 'see how fair Israel is ' becomes a big fat lie.
 
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Multiply the above story 700,000 times plus add all their children going on into the future without any sign of justice..., all with the support of Europe, the Us and Canada and you might understand the problem. Palestinians never had anything to do with the holocaust. But they've they've become landless and nationless refugees as a result. Rather than being grateful that they completely shouldered our burden, we demonize them and support their ongoing suffering at the hands of war criminals. Shame on us...
 
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Multiply the above story 700,000 times plus add all their children going on into the future without any sign of justice..., all with the support of Europe, the Us and Canada and you might understand the problem. Palestinians never had anything to do with the holocaust. But they've they've become landless and nationless refugees as a result. Rather than being grateful that they completely shouldered our burden, we demonize them and support their ongoing suffering at the hands of war criminals. Shame on us...
The moves to steal Palestine was in the works before the Balfour Declaration was ever written. It was a reply to a request from the Rothschild dynasty.
 

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hehe, arabs being treated equally in israel is the biggest propaganda garbage of all time. israel recently tried banning arab parties from running in elections

And they FAILED!

Arabs have sat on the Israeli Supreme Court........how many Jews in positions of power in ANY Arab country???

And there are many, many Arab politicians....in the Knesset and in municipal politics.

Israel is a free, democratic, secular state...one of ours.

In Gaza, the opposition gets thrown off the top of a high building.....and they are Muslim brothers! lol

I know, I know..........you've made up your mind, and only resent it when people confuse you with the facts....

I'll leave you to stew in your hatred of western civilization.......please feel free to have a fit of self-loathing.....:roll:

BTW, do you know how big Israel is?????

21,000 sq Kilometers.

New Brunswick is 73,000...I believe.......
 

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BTW, do you know how big Israel is?????
21,000 sq Kilometers.
New Brunswick is 73,000...I believe.......
Being 1/3 the size they should be in the headlines 3x less than NB if they were doing things right. WTF does that have to do with anything, are you trying to justify us stealing just a little piece of land.
 

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MEMRI - The Middle East Media Research Institute




YouTube - Gaza flotilla participants invoked killing of Jews




"The only illegal presence in the area is Israel... This mission is not about delivering humanitarian supplies, it's about breaking Israel's siege..." (May 27, AFP)

Greta Berlin About the purpose of the illegal flotilla actions:

Oh Why, Oh why would you slander the peace-loving, sweet, kind, benevolent people of the flotilla! Sacriledge!

heh-heh

Islamist fools intent on mayhem, murder, or martyrdom.....and they got the latter. Looks good on them.

Being 1/3 the size they should be in the headlines 3x less than NB if they were doing things right. WTF does that have to do with anything, are you trying to justify us stealing just a little piece of land.

Did a little addition.........the countries neighbouring Israel, all in square kilometers.

Lebanon: 10,452
Syria: 185, 180
Jordan: 89,556
Egypt: 997,739
West Bank: 5640
Gaza: 360

For a total of 1,288,927 square kilometers...............

Gee, you'd think they could have absorbed 750,000 refugees, wouldn't you?

Considering Israel managed to absorb the same number, and it is 1/60 the size.

Who is the enemy of Palestinian refugees? Here's a hint....their worst enemies DON'T speak Hebrew.....
 

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How do you figure it's propaganda!?! There is a sizable Arab population in Israel that vote and there are Arab members of the Kineset! It's not a cake walk, but people from the West Bank get health care in Israel - sorry if you don't want to accept it, but it's the truth.


Did the word 'grateful'ever cross one of my posts? Nope. but they have access to change the wrongs - they also have Israeli Jews who actively support change - something you don't see in Muslim countries with Jewish or other minorities, such as Kurds.And that's why I take issue with the term 'apartheid'. Under apartheid whites only voted, whites only had a say. Israel's system might be flawed, but it's not an apartheid system.

Every country in the ME had a happy and healthy Jewish minority before the zionist pigs ruined that millenia long peaceful coexistence. In any case deal with the crimes of Israel, the thread is about apartheid Israel, the alleged crimes of some other nation will not in any circumstances excuse Israeli apartheid nor their crime of genocide nor their illegal and undeclared nuclear stockpile now threatening the world. Even people interred in concentration camps get a minimum of heath care, you'll score zero points on that accord trying to humanize Israeli murderers. I wonder what other abominations you support. We've all in the west supposedly had a century of democracy to change the glaring dehumanizing wrongs and we have only created more and far worse. We live in a democracy of money and money only.

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Bingo!

What we need to learn and know in this country is who is Canadas worst enemies. Personally I have no doubt whatever that zionism is ruining Canada if in fact it is not running Canada. Already we support and assist genocide upon the Palestinians in Gaza in direct contravention of every principal the people of this nation fought and died in opposition of in two world wars.
 

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Every country in the ME had a happy and healthy Jewish minority before the zionist pigs ruined that millenia long peaceful coexistence.
The Caliph of Baghdad, al-Muqtadi [1075-1094], had given power to his vizier, Abu Shuja, [who] imposed that each male Jew should wear a yellow badge on his headgear. This was one distinctive sign on the head and the other was on the neck- a piece of lead of the weight of a silver dinar hanging round the neck of every Jew and inscribed with the word dhimmi to signify that the Jew had to pay poll-tax. Jews also had to wear girdles round their wastes. Abu Shuja further imposed two signs on Jewish women. They had to wear a black and a red shoe, and each woman had to have a small brass bell on her neck or shoe, which would tinkle and thus announce the separation of Jewish from Gentile [Muslim] women. He assigned cruel Muslim men to spy upon Jewish women, in order to oppress them with all kinds of curses, humiliation, and spite. The Gentile population used to mock all the Jews, and the mob and their children used to beat up the Jews in all the streets of Baghdad. When a Jew died, who had not paid up the poll-tax [jizya] to the full and was in debt for a small or large amount, the Gentiles did not permit burial until the poll-tax was paid. If the deceased left nothing of value, the Gentiles demanded that other Jews should, with their own money, meet the debt owed by the deceased in poll-tax; otherwise they would burn the body.

A. Screiber, The Origins of Obadyah, the Norman Proselyte" Journal of Jewish Studies (Oxford), Vol. 5, 1954, p. 37.)
In any case deal with the crimes of Israel, the thread is about apartheid Israel, the alleged crimes of some other nation will not in any circumstances excuse Israeli apartheid nor their crime of genocide nor their illegal and undeclared nuclear stockpile now threatening the world.
The suffering masses in Gaza...




Even people interred in concentration camps get a minimum of heath care, you'll score zero points on that accord trying to humanize Israeli murderers.
Health care in Israel is both universal and compulsory, and is administered by a small number of organizations with funding from the government. All Israeli citizens are entitled to the same Uniform Benefits Package, regardless of which organization they are a member of, and treatment under this package is funded for all citizens regardless of their financial means. According to a 2000 study by the World Health Organization, Israel has the 28th best health care in the world.[1]
The policy of the Government of Israel is to condition the access of Palestinians who live in the Palestinian territories to healthcare in Israel (rather than in one of the 9 hospitals in Palestinian territories) upon financial coverage from the Palestinian Authority. In January 2009, after the end of the Israeli military offensive in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinian Authority cancelled financial coverage for all medical care for Palestinians in Israeli hospitals, including coverage for chronically ill Palestinian patients, and those in need of complex care that is not available in other tertiary medical centers in the region. [5]
Health care in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What we need to learn and know in this country is who is Canadas worst enemies.
darkbeaverBloc Québécois
Personally I have no doubt whatever that zionism is ruining Canada if in fact it is not running Canada.


Already we support and assist genocide upon the Palestinians in Gaza in direct contravention of every principal the people of this nation fought and died in opposition of in two world wars.









 
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The Caliph of Baghdad, al-Muqtadi [1075-1094], had given power to his vizier, Abu Shuja, [who] imposed that each male Jew should wear a yellow badge on his headgear. This was one distinctive sign on the head and the other was on the neck- a piece of lead of the weight of a silver dinar hanging round the neck of every Jew and inscribed with the word dhimmi to signify that the Jew had to pay poll-tax. Jews also had to wear girdles round their wastes. Abu Shuja further imposed two signs on Jewish women. They had to wear a black and a red shoe, and each woman had to have a small brass bell on her neck or shoe, which would tinkle and thus announce the separation of Jewish from Gentile [Muslim] women. He assigned cruel Muslim men to spy upon Jewish women, in order to oppress them with all kinds of curses, humiliation, and spite. The Gentile population used to mock all the Jews, and the mob and their children used to beat up the Jews in all the streets of Baghdad. When a Jew died, who had not paid up the poll-tax [jizya] to the full and was in debt for a small or large amount, the Gentiles did not permit burial until the poll-tax was paid. If the deceased left nothing of value, the Gentiles demanded that other Jews should, with their own money, meet the debt owed by the deceased in poll-tax; otherwise they would burn the body.

A. Screiber, The Origins of Obadyah, the Norman Proselyte" Journal of Jewish Studies (Oxford), Vol. 5, 1954, p. 37.)
The suffering masses in Gaza...





Health care in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyone of us can cherry pick history CNDBear. Of course your little basket of fruit is far from the tree (out of context) you do not want to dwell on the justifications used for ancient treatments do you? The thread is not about the ancient histories of the tribes.
You don't even mind using a photo and counterattack inspired and perfected by Gobbels and Co; do you. We can see thousands of photos of happy internees in exactly the same jovial dinner scene, I have seen many of them by Japanese, British and Germans all photographed in their respective concentration camps.

I don't know what point you are trying to make with the graphics CNDbear but it is clear that none of the mentioned state blocs is democratic in anything but label. There is the Israeli connection to each though if that is what you are pointing at.
 
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Anyone of us can cherry pick history CNDBear.
I wouldn't know, you've never posted any fact to back up your rhetoric.

Of course your little basket of fruit is far from the tree (out of context) you do not want to dwell on the justifications used for ancient treatments do you?
Sure why not, you do, when and only when it suits, so you can again call for the genocide of an entire religious group.

The thread is not about the ancient histories of the tribes.
Whenever you aren't going on about it I presume.
You don't even mind using a photo and counterattack inspired and perfected by Gobbels and Co; do you.
I'm, sure you have some facts to actually counter my posts with?

We can see thousands of photos of happy internees in exactly the same jovial dinner scene, I have seen many of them by Japanese, British and Germans all photographed in their respective concentration camps.
Did they come from the Germans the Japanese news agencies? Because all those pics have come from "Palestine Today" own website. You might want to research them, they are a Palestinian news group.

http://www.paltoday.ps/arabic/News-64161.html

I don't know what point you are trying to make with the graphics CNDbear but it is clear that none of the mentioned state blocs is democratic in anything but label.
Of course you can't recognize my highlighting the lunacy of selective rage and application of terms like genocide.

There is the Israeli connection to each though if that is what you are pointing at.
More tinfoil BS, supported by nothing.
 

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Colpy;1289224]

Arabs have sat on the Israeli Supreme Court........how many Jews in positions of power in ANY Arab country???

That's is a very interesting question Colpy. One that if you had any idea of the answer, you would not have asked. I will have a look for the documented history of that subject, which is here somewhere. It will enlighten you, even if you feel enlightenment is not for you.
 

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That's is a very interesting question Colpy. One that if you had any idea of the answer, you would not have asked. I will have a look for the documented history of that subject, which is here somewhere. It will enlighten you, even if you feel enlightenment is not for you.
Why don't you just prove it then?
 

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Did you visit Palestine Today' website yet?

How's that propaganda machine running in Gaza with no fuel?

Did you find the list of Jews that have served on Arab High Courts yet?

How about you answer a question or two with some documented fact DB.
 
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Done as soon as I find it.
Then why are you in here wasting your time calling me names?

While you're at it, try answering some of these...

Did you visit Palestine Today' website yet?

How's that propaganda machine running in Gaza with no fuel?

Did you find the list of Jews that have served on Arab High Courts yet?

How about you answer a question or two with some documented fact DB.
 
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Did you visit Palestine Today' website yet?

How's that propaganda machine running in Gaza with no fuel?

Did you find the list of Jews that have served on Arab High Courts yet?

How about you answer a question or two with some documented fact DB.

Bear, I am required by no regulation to answer any of your daft inquiries into the obvious.
 
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