OK, before we go on, let's recap reality for the more challenged folk around here...
The anti Israeli crew screamed bloody murder, until Colpy and MHz posted the facts of the matter.
Q: Is the blockade of Gaza illegal?
A: No.
Q: Was it illegal for Israel to board a foreign flagged ship in international waters?
A: No.
Q: Was it an act of Piracy to board the ships in the flotilla?
A: No.
Q: Was Israel justified in using deadly force when confronted with violence, when they legally boarded the Miva Marmara?
A: Yes.
So the debate should be over right?
Wrong, the haters will never see reality through their hate and idiocy.
Ever been on a ship that has a cafeteria? How about those fake photo's about body armor, ....... ? If they wanted to inspect the cargo they could have asked to send ocer some custom's officials.
That's all Israel wanted. But you can't inspect 10,000 tons of goods in a ships hold on the high seas. There was no manifest and no bills of lading. Anywhere in the world, that ship was going to be impounded, full stop.
Oh, what were their options other than change your course, turn-back.
And your point?
When a thief announces himself at the door of your 'home' you are under no obligation to let him in.
Woa there skippy, you already conceded to the fact that Israel did not, was not committing any crime, so the use of the word "thief" is erroneous.
Since it was an pre anounced trip did Israel ask to be there for the loading, they might have been given permission.
They didn't need to ask, as you already conceded to.
They were on their ship, bandits come aboard that way, a civilized Nation send somebody with a clip-board and a camera. Come aboard a warship and things start off quite differently.
You need to re-examine the time line. The helo's were the last line. The rigid hull zodiacs were the first. They were pelted with all manner of things, from Molotov's, to flash bangs. That's when the Israeli's were justified in using force, yet they still boarded with pepper ball guns from the helo's.
The table knives were there from the 1st cruise the ship ever made. How many on-board and the photo of the collected 'weapons'. 400 and people and about 40 'weapons' That is not a very well armed group until you take into account this was a 'home invasion' rather than a warship.
Are you now arguing that what you conceded to earlier, in your own posted article, is not true?
I try to get info from both sides before I dismiss anything that doesn't support my view of Israel as the boogieman, then I form my predetermined opinion.
fify
NP, they certainly have one set up, the legality still has yet to be settled.
YOU already proved that to be false. Please do try and be consistent.
So far it by gun-boat diplomacy, with the added twist, that only one side is allowed to have weapons (and use them ) during a declared cease-fire to enforce a blocade that is even illegal under an official state of war in that humanitarian goods are included as prohibited goods.
You keep saying that, but even your own posted facts say that's wrong.
That is why the next group from turkey will have a much bigger stick.
So you want to see a war break out over this? How many innocent lives will be lost then? Is that what you want, more death?
And YOU call me a war monger.
Who is this company you mention, the majority of unthinking people?
fify too.
Certain conditions have to be met first, a point you seem avoid acknowledging. The Israeli method of delivering humanitarian aid is purposely designed to be as inefficient at best
I've acknowledge that several times over the years, including no less then three times in this thread. Care to rethink your childish accusation?
That is why you get so many links that are to 'more knowledgeable words on the matter at hand'.
Yes, and once I get them, I usually post them, but then you dismiss them, because they completely ruin your perception of reality.
You have your mentors and there is the net, a free, public resource at the moment.
It's true the net is a good resource tool, but when YOU simply quote someone else's opinion, without ever checking to see if it's true, you look like a moron. Which is why I vet what I post. Unlike yourself in most cases.
Hell even when you find an Op/Ed piece that is right, and post it acknowledging the facts in it, you still can't accept the truth.
I'll now give you plenty of time to read the rest of the linked article and the links in that article.
Why, your post conceded to the fact that the blockade is legal, the boarding was legal, the use of deadly force was legal. Full stop.
Is that equal law of the law the Royals enjoy over the servants?
I don't do silly conspiracies mhz.
The UN documents they EVERYBODY has signed point to law of equality.
True, but if you have two warring parties, you have to accept certain breaches. If Hamas doesn't like the war, all they have to do is acknowledge Israel's right to exist, and drop her destruction from their policy.
Colpy thinks the Rothschild KKKlan is a myth, you have said something simolar haven't you?
Again, i don't do conspiracy theories mhz. All those videos you've posted on that subject, are so historically wrong, it boggles the mind how an educated person could be duped by them. Which is why educate people, who have an excellent grasp of history, aren't. Which of course excludes you.
Gaza flotilla activists unarmed: Canadian
Last Updated: Thursday, June 3, 2010 | 7:17 PM ET Comments77Recommend44
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What a fukking moron, if anyone believes this idiots tripe, in the fce of video evidence from the activists own camera's, they too are morons.
One would think serious questions be asked surrounding this particular tradgedy...given the circumstances.
Why? You've already made up your mind as to who's guilty.
Even if a multinational inquiry were to find Israel innocent of any wrong doing, you'd dismiss it.
that's interesting. i didn't even notice that part.
Of course you didn't. You ignore anything that doesn't support your ideology.
Israel, war and law. What do they have in common? It is well that law and justice are two different things. There is no law that money cannot buy but justice is priceless. And Israel will know that too before long.
Still nothing eh, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, you just can't pull your head out your ass and see some light for a brief moment. Hell mhz did. As brief and fleeting as it was.
