Today there was Anti-Israeli protests across Canada by Hypocritical, Terrorist sympathizing Activists who once again didn't hold Hamas partly accountable for this situation.. :roll:
Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet
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And you wonder why Israel is losing the PR battle, people, like you. Tomorrow those same people might be protesting something Hamas did. You want cheers from the crowd go to a hockey game and stay far away from politics.
I've said on here numerous times. There are two types of posters in these threads. Sports fans and a rare few that can grasp reality.
So what, it means squat in real terms.
All you are doing is preventing yourself from being objective about things. Hamas didn't organize the boats. Now I get it, everybody the US and Israel can label as a terrorist makes them appear as the 'white knight', liars always show up looking like that at first. The world has caught on, Israel has to be a civilized neighbor, or their money train will dry up mighty fast and she will risk losing what she was freely given.
Now there is 3 kinds, I'm too small to have developed a huge interest in sports unless it is tuning hi-perf engines and reality has left the building if my fellow posters are correct in their assessment. lol
I have to admit the salaries they pull in seems like it should be a core course in school.
Can you imagine trying to remember the names of all the players when there are 300 or so teams? I gave up after the first expansion. I can remember the piston clearances on the first engine I ever built on my own, think I can remember the name of a movie I saw a week ago, no way. Really pisses new people off as I want to write their names on the foreheads, some actually struggle for almost a full minute and that just makes the printing harder to read.
MHz, regarding your comment, "Like I said before, the genocide against the Native Arab population stared 40 years before Hamas was elected as the Government. "
Umm... what about the native Jewish population? You know, the one that's been there through out Christian invasions .... Arab/Muslim invasions ,,,, just curious.
Bad is bad - it doesn't matter who does it and if you're going to criticize one, you should call into account the other.
Umm... what about the native Jewish population? You know, the one that's been there through out Christian invasions .... Arab/Muslim invasions ,,,, just curious.
You make no sense whatsoever. Israel made a stupid move. Israel should put the brakes on the settlers. But I could never figure out why all the people that scream about human rights violations never scream about the violations perpetrated by the likes of hamas upon their own people. Aren't they worthy of critique? or is it ok for them to do what they do, as they aren't Jews?
Bad is bad - it doesn't matter who does it and if you're going to criticize one, you should call into account the other.
They were given the same rights as the local population according to UN181. There was no differences in where they were allowed to live either, Jews could live in West Bank or Gaza and Arabs could live in those places but they could not buy property, same as Arabs in Israel, if they were there they could stay if they wished but they could no longer buy more land. If they wanted to move they sold their property at the going market value. Neither side was to be harassed, beaten and chased off their land. As it is both side sufferred and it is still going on today. There are aboutb 5 million Arabs who belong in one of those 3 places. Before the push that started in about 1920 Jews and Muslims and Christian all lived together in relative harmony. The Rothschild plan changed all that and they seem to bear none of the responsibility .... again.
The native Jewish population was nearly exterminated by the European tribe, read some goddamn history. An honest account is something the zionists have always and will always avoid like the plaque it would be to them. Every column would prove the disproportionate power of Israel to commit the destruction that they have and the powerlessness of their victims. There will be no peace for anyone till Israel is brought to its knees and stripped of that stolen power.
A big rat trap eh Goober. How appropriate.
There will be peace when hamas is voted out of power and a more peace oriented government is voted in who recognizes Israel's right to exist.
Peace makes good economic sense.
There are a few other thing that the brakes should be applied to also. Israel has made it quite clear that it isn't going to be halted and more and more land will be taken. Get this part straight, they have no desire for two states, the last 60 years proves that. Hamas, look at who is complaining aboutb them, the US and Israel all the while they have the boot tom their throat as much as the world will allow. Don't forget it was the US who extended their reign of bombs in Lebanon and Gaza, allowing them extra time to kill and maim as many civilians as possible. Explain what nice people Israel is to drop a million cluster bombs on Lebannon in the last day of that operation. The intended target, little children who would go an pick up something that looked like a toy. The US does the same in Iraq and Afghanistan, for food rations one gay, cluster bombs the next day, both look the same to a child.
Hamas is also penned up and kept at the verge of starvation. The 2000 tonnes that is allowed in is on a good day. They have been known to close that lifeline at any excuse and the missing goods are never made up for. Some web sites have the tonnage for the year prior to Cast Lead. at mid year a cease fire came into existance and supplies should have increased dramatically. They don't until maybe Sept and Oct and then their botched midnight raid that got people from both sides killed. They were not supposed to enter Gaza. Their word alone gave them the right, and nobody from the outside said squat, .... again. Go live in the poorer parts of any city inthe world and you will find similar crimes, only Hamas and Iran get the spotlight. No need to wonder why, two words say it all, propaganda from Israel and the US to demonize Hamas so the world will accept their extermination with cheers and pats onn the back for makingbthe world a little safer. It's all bulldung, the day after they were all in the grave a new enemy to Israel and the US would arise which can only be handled by military action.
So I don't pass up, their 'internal crimes' but they are far from being the worst and they are the ones who have the worst conditions of all the world, by design because taht condition existed when they were first elected. What Government wouldn't take up the cause to bring relief to her people. Part of Israel's demand of Hamas is to recognize Israel as a Nation. In doing that the 5 million refugees (an increase from the 700,000 original refugees from Nov '47 and on) lose their right to return which the World Court would rule on if it was ever allowed to get tom them. The US blocks every attempt, So really if you want Hamas to 'play fair' then they also have to be treated fair.
Case in point, a few posters have mentioned Hamas refusing the aid that was brought over on the boats that had people killed. What they don't say is that the aid was not food, it was wheelchairs without batteries and toys and books and things like that. They refused to accept the items until all the people on the boats were released.
Can you see the intentional demonizing there? I thought it was a nice demand and it wasn't takingb the food out of anybodies mouth. Want some real world news, in a situation where starvation is happening the very young are the first to be denied food, then it is the very old and the weak (any physical impairment) and the last to die are the men of fighting age. No big plot just the way it has worked since intentional starvation was used as a weapon.
I smell desperation on the part of Israeli central control, the sheeps clothing is beginning to wear thin. As much as we are conditioned to believe in the super human Zionist chosen you can bet that the game was always for suckers. The lesser bretheren always take it in the teeth in the end, and still they don't catch on. It's greed I think, of course that's the greater part of stupid, I guess. Anyway, global war has been called for and global war we will have, the debt can't be paid any other way, the free markets need some creative destruction. Israel will never know peace, a bigger bunch of suckers there has never been, except of course for the rubes that whine for them.
Not true. Begin and Arafat came to agreement but some unhappy Zionist thought that was a bad idea and shot Begin.
Israel hasn't got a right to exist, like Petros says, who would smother their arms industry for peace. The Palestinians can never elect a government acceptable to Israel. That is impossible.
I wouldn't say desperate if your goal was to get a bunch of bleeding hearts to demand international management of the blockade duping the bleeding hearts into a position of responsibility for further atrocities by partaking even if it is a supervisory roll. They want to take down everyone with them into the pit of savagery.