Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[MHz]

They want to take down everyone with them into the pit of savagery.

How fortunate for us we haven't climbed out yet, is that karma or fate?

 

[petros]

How fortunate for us we haven't climbed out yet, is that karma or fate?

By choice. Ignorance isn't cause for lawful excuse.

 

[darkbeaver]

I wouldn't say desperate if your goal was to get a bunch of bleeding hearts to demand international management of the blockade duping the bleeding hearts into a position of responsibility for further atrocities by partaking even if it is a supervisory roll. They want to take down everyone with them into the pit of savagery.

I think that's a long shot Petros and in the end those who have condoned the genocide already legally bear sixty years of responsibility. Israel has had lots of willing helpers and every one of them will hang before justice is done. Just looking at the region out of context always affords a skewed picture I think, especially this late in the global picture when all hell threatens to be let loose. Gaza is not even the worst of the injustices being conducted in the world right now, as horrible as it is. A successful Israel is no less undesirable than a successful Nazi Germany would have been. Israel is a state whos security requires the insecurity of the rest of the world. The rest of the world understands this, finally, I think.

Who will hang for the destruction of Irag who will face justice for the carnage in Afghanistan when will Pakistan be bombed back to the stone age who will pay for the constant rape of Africa central America Hati Bolivia the list of victimized nations and peoples is near endless, all to feed the glutonous wealthy overlords. How many silver spoons will it take to choke them?

 

[Colpy]

lmfao, admits reading bias trash and forming opinions from it. :lol:

Yeah, I read books historians with doctorates from Ivy League Universities.

You read Dick and Jane Do Israel on Jihad.com.........and consider it fair comment.

Perhaps that explains why you are so consistently wrong about everything.

horrible post.
ooh ya let's just blindly follow our government

As opposed to blindly following the dictates of other governments that don't have a clue about democracy, or liberty......and who would destroy us and turn us into an Islamist theocracy.....if they could.

Brilliant.

You really aren't all that bright, are you?

 

[earth_as_one]

MHz, regarding your comment, "Like I said before, the genocide against the Native Arab population stared 40 years before Hamas was elected as the Government. "
Umm... what about the native Jewish population? You know, the one that's been there through out Christian invasions .... Arab/Muslim invasions ,,,, just curious.


You make no sense whatsoever. Israel made a stupid move. Israel should put the brakes on the settlers. But I could never figure out why all the people that scream about human rights violations never scream about the violations perpetrated by the likes of hamas upon their own people. Aren't they worthy of critique? or is it ok for them to do what they do, as they aren't Jews?
Bad is bad - it doesn't matter who does it and if you're going to criticize one, you should call into account the other.

Its a common misperception that Muslims and Arabs have always been hostile toward Jews and Israelis. Historically, Jews found refuge in Arab and Muslim countries.

An example from an Israeli source:
Brief History of Turkish Jews

The Ottoman province known as Palestine was peaceful for centuries until it collapsed at the end of WW I. In general, Palestinians didn't become hostile towards Jews until Jewish immigrants starting buying land with the help of wealthy Zionists and evicting the non-Jewish tenants in the 1920's. In the 1930's, hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees fleeing the horrors of Nazi Europe overran Palestine. Riots broke out in the late 1930's as thousands of non-Jews lost their homes and livelihoods.

British Mandate for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Arab/Muslim hostility toward Jews is a relatively recent phenomenon which dates back to 1947, when militant Zionists using terrorist tactics ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of non-Jews from what is today Israel. Their victims violently lost their homes, property, bank accounts and all their belongings. European Jewish refugees moved into fully furnished Arab/Muslim homes while the former non-Jewish occupants who had lived on this land for millenia became landless and nationless refugees.

Ilan Pappe, Israel The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Papp book review by Mostafa Omar

The Zionist ethnic cleansing war continues to this day. The collective punishment of 1.4 million Gazans is only one aspect of this conflict. Israel is trying to crush the will of these people by denying them fundamental human rights like food, potable water, shelter... Most Gazans are innocent civilians who just want to live in peace yet have endured decades of injustice and oppression.

If it wasn't for militant Zionism, this area would still be a peaceful part of the world, like it was for centuries before Israel was founded on the ashes of razed Arab villages in 1948.

I cannot in good conscience remain silent while the Canadian government supports Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity, and our news ignores Palestinian suffering. Canadians should have all the facts regarding this conflict.

 

[MHz]

If it wasn't for militant Zionism, this area would still be a peaceful part of the world, like it was for centuries before Israel was founded on the ashes of razed Arab villages in 1948.

lol Check this link out, i just now found it and it does mention some things about the heritage. He doesn't go back to the original instigator (the one to foot the bill for all this mess) the Rothschild family of the 1880's. Now all Hamas has to do is to be allowed to bring it to Court.

What legitimacy does Israel have? > Palestine > Redress Information & Analysis

 

[petros]

Quoting Colpy As opposed to blindly following the dictates of other governments that don't have a clue about democracy, or liberty......and who would destroy us and turn us into an Islamist theocracy.....if they could.

Brilliant.​

hahahahaha you think democracy exists
​

Democracy (mob rule) is one of the worst government systems to ever surface.

The mob ain't too bright.
​

 

[earth_as_one]

Thousands of Israelis protest against the Israeli government`s policies regarding the occupied territories:

Thousands rally Gaza blockade

...The protestors began their demonstration with a march from Rabin Square to the Tel Aviv museum, where speeches were held. The demonstration, which was held under the slogan "The Government is Drowning Us All", was originally planned solely to protest the occupation, but following last Monday’s deadly raid on a Turkish boat attempting to break the Gaza blockade, the rally also addressed those upset about the government’s policies in regard to the Gaza Strip and the raid that left 9 foreign citizens dead and several IDF soldiers wounded...

...Adam Keller a spokesman for Gush Shalom, one of the organizers of the event, told the Jerusalem Post that the demonstration “was an even bigger success than he expected” and said he believes the last week’s events increased the number of participants....

TA: Thousands rally Gaza blockade

 

[petros]

Adam Keller a spokesman for Gush Shalom, one of the organizers of the event, told the Jerusalem Post that the demonstration “was an even bigger success than he expected”

A Keller eh? Hooray for the peace loving Kellers!

 

[earth_as_one]

Not all Israelis are cruel and callous. Many Israelis feel empathy for the suffering of fellow human beings and do not support their government's war crimes and crimes against humanity.

 

[Colpy]

lmfao, I read from all different sources to form my opinion. I read from various news sources, not Fox like you. (LMFAO FOX) . i'll read opinions from both sides, iraeli and palestinians. i don't read some obvious propaganda from a israel ambassador to the united states. you're a nutjob if you can't see that's completely bias.

hahahahaha you think democracy exists

I don't watch Fox News....I read newspapers.

Most of my "breaking news" I get from the CBC.

And yes, democracy exists........thankfully though, most of us don't agree with your ideas.

Obviously, you are having some trouble dealing with that............

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA, BIG BAD ISLAMISTS WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND TURN US INTO A THEOCRACY, LMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

typical deranged right-wing nut job . rofling hard as ****!

Geez, I hadn't even seen this lovely piece of work!

This would be your honours thesis, I take it.

So tell me, do you do a rough copy with crayons before you type it out?

That's what I love about you guys, the quality of your prose, the depth of your intellect, the simple rationality of your argument is.....overwhelming.

So, on that note, I'm to bed.

Good night all.

 

[CDNBear]

Wow, the useful idiots have lost the debate on the legality of the blockade, the legality of boarding a ship in international waters, when one of their own shot them all in the head, in a fitting suicidal spasm post by mhz, way back on page 22. So they turn the conversation to a conjectured based bashing of Israel and anyone whose opinion differs from theirs...

Awesome...

 

[darkbeaver]

"What shocks and worries me is the narrow-mindedness and the shortsightedness of our military leaders. They seem to presume that the State of Israel may or even must-behave in the realm of international relations according to the laws of the jungle– -the long chain of false incidents and hostilities we have invented, and so many clashes we have provoked;"
– From Diary of Moshe Sharett, former Primer Minister of Israel in Livia Rokach, Israel's Sacred Terrorism published 1980

"Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be aintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle".
–Alexander Solzehnitzhyn

History will record May 31, 2010 as the day that ended the brutal and inhumane siege and starvation of 1.5 million Palestinians living in Gaza and the day that launched a Free Palestine. It is a day most deserving of an annual worldwide celebration and remembrance. An event worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize nomination..

For 80 years Israel's guiding principle has been state sponsored terrorism, a terrorism referred to by Moshe Sharett, former Prime Minister of Israel in his diary as "SACRED TERRORISM".

"In 1943 former Prime Minister of Israel Yitzhak Shamir wrote an article entitled "Terror" for the journal of the terrorist organization he headed (Lehi) in which he proposed to "dismiss the entire 'phobia' and babble against terror with simple, obvious arguments." "Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war," he wrote, and "We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle."
–Quote from Noam Chomsky's: "International Terrorism: Image and Reality", In Alexander George (ed.), "Western State Terrorism", Routledge, December, 1991 (Must Read)


Palestine Think Tank Israel Newswire Palestine Resistance Somoud: Arab Voices of Resistance War Zionism Mohamed Khodr: The Ships That Launched A Nation

 

[CDNBear]

And it continues...

 

[darkbeaver]

Wow, the useful idiots have lost the debate on the legality of the blockade, the legality of boarding a ship in international waters, when one of their own shot them all in the head, in a fitting suicidal spasm post by mhz, way back on page 22. So they turn the conversation to a conjectured based bashing of Israel and anyone whose opinion differs from theirs...

Awesome...

You seem to me to be the teachers pet in this thread CDNBear.

 

[darkbeaver]

lol Check this link out, i just now found it and it does mention some things about the heritage. He doesn't go back to the original instigator (the one to foot the bill for all this mess) the Rothschild family of the 1880's. Now all Hamas has to do is to be allowed to bring it to Court.

What legitimacy does Israel have? > Palestine > Redress Information & Analysis

Under law Israel does not exist. That will have to be remedied before the faux nation is brought to justice, just long enough to lay charges and convict, then it can rest forever in history books as the benchmark of state despicability and depravity.

 

[CDNBear]

You seem to me to be the teachers pet in this thread CDNBear.

Hey let me guess colpy,
"they" hate us because of our freedoms? AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. you're nothing a cliche. a right-wing racist hick.

you support Israel, aaaaahahahahahaha

Ah yes, neither of you can refute the facts, so you must attack the poster...

Good call, you look so much smarter doing that, then actually providing anything intelligent.

 

[darkbeaver]

Ah yes, neither of you can refute the facts, so you must attack the poster...

Good call, you look so much smarter doing that, then actually providing anything intelligent.

You are, in fact, never factual. Who gets your apple CDNBear? Nobody has insulted posters in this thread more than you. You are an insult to your own people and Canada.

 

[clutch]

Ah yes, neither of you can refute the facts, so you must attack the poster...

Good call, you look so much smarter doing that, then actually providing anything intelligent.

you've added nothing substantial at all in this thread. just more muslim hatred and blind support for israel.

 

[CDNBear]

You are, in fact, never factual. Who gets your apple CDNBear? Nobody has insulted posters in this thread more than you. You are an insult your own people.

you've added nothing substantial at all in this thread. just more muslim hatred and blind support for israel.

Ah yes, more of the same, nope, I didn't force anyone to acknowledge anything in this thread. The fact that Israel's blockade has been proven legal, the boarding of ships in international water, again, legal...nope, not done at all.

Why you ask?

Because clutch and DB say so, that's why...