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He doesn't..he just says crazy shit because he's a lunatic. He likes Nazis and he likes communism, and he likes socialists. Blah blah blah. He reminds me of Brick off of Anchorman...He loves lamp. He loves chair. He ate big red candle. He probably killed a guy with a trident....

Pure crazy.
 

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Muslims involved in violence .....

Maybe it is because they happen to own the essence of life on this earth?

Maybe because everybody and their dogs are attempting to steal it from them?

God may very well have given the land of Israel to the Jewish Folks, but it is a barren piece of land. It barely has enough water and the Jewish Folks must steal water from their neighbours.

I think it is the Arabs who must be "God's Chosen People" because God gave them the very necessity of life in this universe.
 

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Muslims involved in violence .....

Maybe it is because they happen to own the essence of life on this earth?

Maybe because everybody and their dogs are attempting to steal it from them?

God may very well have given the land of Israel to the Jewish Folks, but it is a barren piece of land. It barely has enough water and the Jewish Folks must steal water from their neighbours.

I think it is the Arabs who must be "God's Chosen People" because God gave them the very necessity of life in this universe.
Yup the only thing muslims hate more then western civilization is muslims . They have been at war with each other ever since the death of their prophet . Peaceful souls the lot of them . May the blessing of camel dung and dead flies be with you .
 

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Muslims involved in violence .....

Maybe it is because they happen to own the essence of life on this earth?

Maybe because everybody and their dogs are attempting to steal it from them?

God may very well have given the land of Israel to the Jewish Folks, but it is a barren piece of land. It barely has enough water and the Jewish Folks must steal water from their neighbours.

I think it is the Arabs who must be "God's Chosen People" because God gave them the very necessity of life in this universe.



You are either truly and incredibly uniformed or have no idea of what you are talking about.


The Arabs, if they so chose, could actually do something for themselves; they could be just as successful as any Jew or anyone else in this world (they have been in the past). The leadership of the Arabs are so consumed with hate that they have no qualms in having their own people suffer under their rule all the while blaming others for their failure to actually improve the lives of those around them. They teach "False Gods' and brainwash their minions into believing that their fate in life is all someone else's fault. They are being used, not unlike the religions of the past.


Perhaps if the world actually gave a frig about the fate of the Arabs, they would look at helping them understand that only they can make the changes required and that hatred NEVER got anyone anywhere except dead and, that their ideology sucks (explain how they've been deceived); that killing others simply for the sake of killing is wrong. (Personally, the God that I would believe in is a loving God and not a hateful, spiteful one that the Islamists believe in. Besides, Allah wasn't a god - only a prophet who got it wrong). But, I would bet my bottom dollar that the "average" Arab knows this but is powerless to do anything about it because it would mean a death sentence from Hamas/Hezbalah and their ilk. It would take a lot of courage and the willingness to die, not for some unseen "god" or "prophet" but for future generations to change their attitudes. They must know that despite what others do, they are the ones in control of their own destiny. But maybe things are so desperate, they are so focused on simply surviving, they are unable to see what they could accomplish if they only were given the opportunity to do so. And it goes without saying that outside influences must cease and perhaps an uncorrupted UN organization could help over see this but I don't see this happening any time soon. The world lacks individuals who have integrity, honesty and the best interests of the world as a whole. Too many greedy people out there.


Why is it that so many want to come here (Cda/US) where we are free to do as we want; where we can go anywhere without fear; where we can say anything we want (that's becoming less so) but still, we can say what we want if we have the courage to do so and not be killed or legally charged for our opinions (so far but I see that it's coming). People from all over the world come to Canada and the U.S.because of our way of life. Why on earth would anyone want to bring here what they have escaped? That's the beauty of our countries - we invite those from everywhere to share the kind of life we enjoy thanks to the sacrifices of our forefathers. It didn't happen over night and we have EVOLVED unlike the Arab countries who are in such distress.


So Israel is a successful democracy - I believe it is, in part, pure and simply jealousy and Arab leaders despise the fact that Israel has become so successful despite their Arab neighbours plans to destroy them. Israel has every right to defend itself as do we. Knowingly allowing people who have no respect for their (Israel) (or our) democracy (and those who perpetuate the fact that "Islam" poses no threat are being disingenuous). I pity the Muslims stuck in these backward countries who would likely give anything to leave but are unable to or who are too afraid to call their leadership what they are: Corrupt and evil. I also pity the Muslims that come here and are still brainwashed to believe that we are infidels and that they are the "true" religion and that they must do jihad against those of us who have actually welcomed them here.

I want someone to tell me specifically why the Palestinians don't rebuild their society? Why aren't they taking a page out of the Israeli book and turn their land so it becomes productive which is exactly what Israel did? Why did the Arabs destroy what Israel left behind when they gave up the land the Palestinians demanded rather than take advantage of what was left behind? Why have other "Arab" countries refused to accept so-called "refugees" into their countries? I suspect it's because they know that they will only export trouble because the Palestinians have been so brainwashed that nothing anyone can do for them will be enough. aka Yassar Arafat who refused everything that the PLO asked for and Israel was willing to give. See, the Palestinian situation doesn't even make sense because they have been offered most (not all) of what they have said they wanted and then, when actually it comes down to brass tax, they refused to accept. So what the hell do they want? Yeah, I know - to destroy Israel. Even if they were successful in doing so, does anyone actually believe things would improve in the ME? I doubt it! Peace is not an option to those in charge and destroying Israel will not change this fact.

I believe that there are forces behind this whole thing (George Soros is one of many) who want nothing better than to create chaos because it benefits those like him financially; in fact he is well known for doing so. They are hell bent in destroying European/Western civilization to their benefit and don't care how many lives are lost.


I am not normally one for "conspiracy theories" - I'd like to think that I'm a common-sense individual - but I gotta think that there is more to this than what we are being told because much of what we are being told simply doesn't make sense to me - it simply doesn't.


While Israel isn't perfect (as are most countries) the Palestinian leadership have also a lot to account for along with those behind this whole mess. Where are the leaders of Hamas getting the funds to pay for the protesters who cash cheques from $200 to $3,000 US depending on whether they demonstrate, get shot or ($3000) if they get killed and why isn't this being covered in the MSM?


Hamas keeps their people poor so they can encourage them to demonstrate for a price believing that they have no other option but to sacrifice themselves so that their families can get money from Hamas. And where is the world condemnation? Oh, I know - it's all Israel's fault!


This whole situation is disgusting and I, for one, will not cease to condemn anyone who says that the ONLY country at fault is Israel. I simply refuse to accept that because I believe that there is more to this than we are being fed.


OK so rant over …..


JMHO
 

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I like Islam.

Too bad the vast majority don't practice true islam. But then any society that prefers humping goats instead of women has issues.

Muslims involved in violence .....

Maybe it is because they happen to own the essence of life on this earth?

Maybe because everybody and their dogs are attempting to steal it from them?

God may very well have given the land of Israel to the Jewish Folks, but it is a barren piece of land. It barely has enough water and the Jewish Folks must steal water from their neighbours.

I think it is the Arabs who must be "God's Chosen People" because God gave them the very necessity of life in this universe.

Do the goats you hump have any say in it?
 

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Islam is a threat. Any sane person can recognize that.



The difference you are leaving out is that Islamic terrorism is an aspect of the hostility Islamic fundamentalism holds for non-Muslims. That hostility is deeply ingrained, with by some analyses the majority of the Koran dealing with how Muslims should treat non-Muslims (badly). A big chunk of the Islamic world, perhaps, based on polls and voting, over 20%, are fundamentalists, and still subscribe to the medieval notion of death for blasphemy and apostasy and homosexuality, not to mention whippings, stonings and other brutal punishments from the Koran. People point out the bad things in the Bible, but both the Christians and Jews went through a reformation which modernized them. Islam never has.



Oh yeah, blame the Jews for being successful. They're successful because they go to school, study hard, and take care of their families. Too bad your parents didn't have the same thought. Too bad you didn't or you wouldn't be the failure you are. Jews who commit fraud are no greater than those of other religions who do the same, so get off your Nazi soapbox.

An interview in Time magazine with one of Indonesia's most influential clerics and Islamic scholars.

Many Western politicians and intellectuals say that Islamist terrorism has nothing to do with Islam. What is your view?

Western politicians should stop pretending that extremism and terrorism have nothing to do with Islam. There is a clear relationship between fundamentalism, terrorism, and the basic assumptions of Islamic orthodoxy. So long as we lack consensus regarding this matter, we cannot gain victory over fundamentalist violence within Islam.
Radical Islamic movements are nothing new. They’ve appeared again and again throughout our own history in Indonesia. The West must stop ascribing any and all discussion of these issues to “Islamophobia.” Or do people want to accuse me — an Islamic scholar — of being an Islamophobe too?

What basic assumptions within traditional Islam are problematic?


The relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims, the relationship of Muslims with the state, and Muslims’ relationship to the prevailing legal system wherever they live … Within the classical tradition, the relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims is assumed to be one of segregation and enmity.
Perhaps there were reasons for this during the Middle Ages, when the tenets of Islamic orthodoxy were established, but in today’s world such a doctrine is unreasonable. To the extent that Muslims adhere to this view of Islam, it renders them incapable of living harmoniously and peacefully within the multi-cultural, multi-religious societies of the 21st century.


Top Muslim Scholar: Orthodox Islam and Violence 'Linked' | Time


Oh my! Jews go to school and study hard and take care of their families? You are describing SO CALLED WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!!!!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

 

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Hi! VBeacher

I could give you endless quotes from Rabbi's which proclaimed and encouraged violence.

“It is permissible to kill the Righteous among non-Jews even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation,” he wrote. “If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments because we care about the commandments there is nothing wrong with the murder.”
--Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro--

“In conquering the Land [of Israel] according to Nachmanides and Rashi
[*], who say that the wars of today are also mitzvah wars for conquering the Land, I am beholden to nothing. This isn’t the law of the persecutor [**], right? What law are we dealing with? The laws of a mitzvah war, a war of occupying the Land. Even if I don’t conquer Gaza right now, [conquering it] is part of my ability to settle the Land of Israel, so it is also a part of the mitzvah of conquering the Land. And therefore it follows, there’s no other way; like, we’d have to kill them all. Because this is the difference between the Law of the Persecutor and mitzvah wars. […] A mitzvah war of conquering the Land, which is not limited to saving the people of Israel from their enemies, according to some of the Rishonim [***] I could, on the face of it and by the essential law, destroy, kill and cause to perish [****] all of them. I will not do so, because if I were to do so, and reject international treaties, then the State of Israel shall parish, unless we shall witness a miracle of miracles – and one must not trust in a miracle. And that’s the only reason I won’t do it.”

Influential rabbi teaches would-be Israeli soldiers: Genocide is a mitzvah – Mondoweiss

There remains an unjust and paradoxical issue when it comes to discussing the stated writings or beliefs (for example) of both Jews and Muslims. In Western society we might have a Pope or certain Evangelical leaders who behave as the 'all knowing ones' and who craftily traffic their edicts and interpretations at will to the gullible and disillusioned.

The same can be said about the Jewish and Muslim religions too. What I am saying is that, when the Jews are smearing the Muslims, they eagerly quote some edict related to "seventy two virgins" and a host of other of similar slant. But it should be noted that the Jews have had their share of extreme teachers as well as the Muslims; not to mention the Christians too who (for example) blessed racism in America.

Unfortunately, over these past decades the Muslim religion has not yet learned how to lawyer-up with the same sophistication as their Jewish brothers have done.

The Muslims have not been so quick to conceal or obfuscate their religious materials and therefore have left themselves open to accusations of being barbarian extremists.

But the Jews have committed the very same troubling scenario which they are so eager to accuse others of.

For example: various Jewish Rabbis have pronounced Talmud interpretations or edicts to be strictly adhered to by their fellow Jews. As I stated earlier, the Jews have long since lawyered-up concerning this historical record and when these edicts are disclosed the Jews now declare them 'inoperative' simply because some moderate Rabbi might have opposed them. Yet, regardless, the original Rabbi has not in fact disowned them; nor has his followers disavowed them nor refused to continue teaching them in their religious schools.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Sanhedrin 57a. When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b. Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Soferim 15, rule 10 The best of the Gentiles should be killed.

Gittin 69a. To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
Quotes 'With Attitude' From The Jewish Talmud

Any bastard can be a rabbi
These masters of Jewish law act as if they have not heard of Shmaya, and contrary to his recommendations in the Mishna tractate "Avot" (Ethics of our Fathers), they actually very much like the rabbinate.
By Yossi Sarid
August 27, 2010
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/any-bastard-can-be-a-rabbi-1.310463
There are just as many such texts in Christian teachings too.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians have learned to ignore such crap.

Muslim Fundamentalists have not.

Sorry to rain on your little anti semitic Nazi parade.
 

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Hi! Gilgamesh

Is calling somebody an anti-Semite your "Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free" card?

 

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These Senators Took Money from Iran

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These Senators Took Money from Iran

Last week President Trump withdrew from the Iranian nuclear deal. President Trump knew the deal was not working.
This was despite former Secretary of State John Kerry working against the Trump administration to salvage the weak deal with the Iranian regime.
Of course, the Iranian regime is very upset with President Trump’s decision...

Yup, they are all phobia about their dope deals getting exposed..damned muslims...telling the truth when we screw 'em over on dope, arms and oil deals! How dare they?

Hi! Gilgamesh

Is calling somebody an anti-Semite your "Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free" card?


Yes, he is a full blown Jew hating zionist.

My friends here say the internet is full of these mouth pieces because free speech is VERY dangerous to Zionist scams.
Torah Jews | Against Zionism

Show us your tattoo eLIE Weasle.

Elie admits he doesn’t have the tattoo A7713
http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-admits-he-doesnt-have-the-tattoo-a7713/

Screw you and your mother the goat!

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Where is YOUR tattoo?
 

Gilgamesh

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Hi! Gilgamesh

Is calling somebody an anti-Semite your "Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free" card?

Not at all. I only use it for anti semites such as our moronic hysterical medieval Muslim poster.

However their are indeed quite a few of these twits out there.

Oh my! Jews go to school and study hard and take care of their families? You are describing SO CALLED WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!!!!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

No. He is describing reality.

Really bothers you, eh!

Sux to be you.

'White privilege' is a cheap shot bs beloved of neo-Marxist immature fools, the lazy, and the universities and 'progressives' sure are full of 'em.

It did exist in the past. It hasn't existed for decades.

However it is indeed a great excuse for the lazy.
 

spilledthebeer

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Hi! Gilgamesh

Is calling somebody an anti-Semite your "Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free" card?





In a perfect world Gilgamush for brains would have a wit and moral insight just as flexible as those towers!!!!


Gils problem is he is taking radical Muslim propaganda seriously instead of recognizing that it is only for Muslim consumption!


Yasser Arafat was wiser than Gilgamush- Arafat told |Muslims one thing and told western listeners something entirely different!


Which in large measure explains why Palestinians will never have a state!!!!

 

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My son, Osama: the al-Qaida leader's mother speaks for the first time

On the corner couch of a spacious room, a woman wearing a brightly patterned robe sits expectantly. The red hijab that covers her hair is reflected in a glass-fronted cabinet; inside, a framed photograph of her firstborn son takes pride of place between family heirlooms and valuables. A smiling, bearded figure wearing a military jacket, he features in photographs around the room: propped against the wall at her feet, resting on a mantlepiece. A supper of Saudi meze and a lemon cheesecake has been spread out on a large wooden dining table.
Alia Ghanem is Osama bin Laden’s mother, and she commands the attention of everyone in the room. On chairs nearby sit two of her surviving sons, Ahmad and Hassan, and her second husband, Mohammed al-Attas, the man who raised all three brothers. Everyone in the family has their own story to tell about the man linked to the rise of global terrorism; but it is Ghanem who holds court today, describing a man who is, to her, still a beloved son who somehow lost his way. “My life was very difficult because he was so far away from me,” she says, speaking confidently. “He was a very good kid and he loved me so much.” Now in her mid-70s and in variable health, Ghanem points at al-Attas – a lean, fit man dressed, like his two sons, in an immaculately pressed white thobe, a gown worn by men across the Arabian peninsula. “He raised Osama from the age of three. He was a good man, and he was good to Osama.”

He was a good boy

Click the link for the full article
 

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My son, Osama: the al-Qaida leader's mother speaks for the first time



He was a good boy

Click the link for the full article


The mom of the vicious terrorist is entitled to her opinions.......misguided as they are.........but citizens of western countries know very well that we should be putting radical Muslims into QUARANTINE as if they were rabid dogs!!!!



As long as we allow Muslims to travel and immigrate freely into the west we will continue to have terror troubles!!!



Consider:





Here is an article illustrating why Muslims should be compared to a bowl of poisoned skittles as Trump junior mentioned-he said: “if I offered you a bowl of skittles and told you that 4 out of every hundred were poisoned, how many Skittles would you eat?” Here is the article, with some comments of my own in brackets):

ISIS plot to poison ice cream: Police

Postmedia Network. First posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 03:20 PM EST | Updated: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 03:30 PM EST

A sickening ISIS plot to poison the ice cream of kindergarten students has been thwarted by the German secret service.

The sinister scheme emerged during hearings into two fanatic jihadists who detonated a bomb at a Sikh temple during a wedding. Both men were found guilty.

(I have to ask: “what is the Muslim beef with Sikhs at this time? Other than they are `unbelievers` who reject the primacy of Allah”?

According to the Daily Star, one of the temple bombing accused, known only as Mohammed O., 17, had planned to sell the poison ice cream. He would then obliterate himself with a suicide bomb in the midst of the children. Co-conspirator Yusuf T., 17, and Mohammed built bombs with ingredients, they ordered from Amazon.

"I work as an ice cream man with my ice cream van and sell to many children,” Mohammed asked Yusuf in a note discovered after the two were captured. “May I, following Sharia law, use arsenic or warfarin, or better still strychnine, to kill children?"

He added: "Can I make Istis hadi Amaliya (suicide) in the kindergarten too?"

But then there was the capper when Mohammed asks if he is allowed to, "rape the girls of the enemies of the Prophet Muhammad."

(Clearly, Muslims generally assume sexual assault against unbelievers is okay.)

Four were injured in the temple attack and the duo were sentenced to less than three years in prison. Prosecutors hope a new trial Dec. 7 will see higher sentences.

(Our idiot prime minster Justin Trudope has stated that “honour killing of Muslim women by their male relatives is not a barbaric crime”. One has to wonder what judgement Our brainless Boy would make of a street full of melting ice cream and littered with vomiting, convulsing children dying of Arsenic poisoning while freaked out parents screamed louder than the kids?)

(Would Our stupid Boy consider that feeding ice cream laced with Arsenic to German children-whose parents have already GENEROUSLY let more than a MILLION Muslim refugees into the country-would THAT be a barbaric crime in Our Boy`s mind? Sadly, since Our idiot Boy has already publicly stated that “if we kill our enemies, then they win” and he then went on to explain that “even if ISIS bombed Canada, he would not retaliate”!)

(Since Our stupid Boy gets much of his world view from his odious father Pierre-who wanted to drag us out of NATO at the height of the Cold War because of his not so secret admiration for Soviets, we should assume Our idiot Boy has a similar world view. Our Boy has spoken in admiration for the Chinese Communist party and has also spoken of his friendship with Cuban dictator Castro.)

(And Our Boy has NOT repudiated the vile philosophy if his father in which he PRAISED Chairman Mao for MURDERING 30 million Chinese-all of whom were suspected of having incorrect political thoughts! Nor has idiot Boy repudiated the poisoned anti American and anti Israel propaganda produced by his idiot brother-with the aid of Iranian tv producers guided by hard line Muslim Mullahs!)

Meanwhile, a former baker-turned-jihadist is telling secrets about the inner workings of the death cult. Walid Ismail, 20, was captured by Kurdish forces.

His verdict? The jihadists are nuts who win converts with threats and promises.

And because ISIS cut off gas for his bakery and with six children to feed, Ismail was forced to work with them.

“All our people supported them and believed that they were right – but in the end we became victims,” the Daily Mail reports.

(These ISIS clowns make Mafia hit men look kindly and merciful! With Our idiot Boy Trudope to protect us, we really have NO SECURITY at all!)
 

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Tomgram: Arnold Isaacs, The Con Game of America's Anti-Muslims
By Tom Engelhardt
July 31, 2018
Tomgram: Arnold Isaacs, The Con Game of America's Anti-Muslims | TomDispatch

Here are a couple of questions for you: If, in this country, terrorism is to be fought by travel bans, if (as Donald Trump once tweeted) "we don’t want ‘em here," then why are all the travel bans aimed at Muslims?
https://twitter.com/politico/status/825128523572584449/photo/1

If the most threatening terror types shouldn’t be traveling either to or in this country, then why aren’t there travel bans against white Americans? After all, in the United States, terror has actually been a remarkably ashen phenomenon and I’m not just thinking of young white supremacist Dylann Roof, who walked into Charleston’s Mother Emanuel AME church and gunned down nine black parishioners in June 2015, or Stephen Paddock, the 64-year-old white retiree who slaughtered almost 60 people and wounded hundreds more from a Las Vegas hotel window in November 2017, the largest mass shooting by a single gunman in American history.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/15/us/dylann-roof-trial.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-down-part-of-las-vegas-strip-due-to-shooting

Between 2008 and 2015, for instance, a majority of the 208 cases defined as terrorism in the United States (115 of them) were perpetrated by right-wing white extremists, almost double the number inspired by Islamic terrorism.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/26/alt-america-terrorism-rightwing-hate-crimes

Such attacks, the record seems to show, are also more likely to be deadly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/...llenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html

Except in cases like those of Dylann Roof and that Las Vegas massacre, such white acts are often not treated as a form of terror at all, but as so many random incidents of violence and are generally not given the kind of blanket media attention that those of self-proclaimed Islamist terrorists get.
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...ly-be-attacked-far-right-terrorists-islamists

As comedian Ken Cheng put it: "Terrorism is one of the only areas where white people do most of the work and get none of the credit." And of course this has only become more obvious in the age of Trump, years in which, as TomDispatch regular Arnold Isaacs suggests today, a growing crew of Islamophobes, already professionalized and creating a stream of fraudulent propaganda about Islamist terrorism in this country, has become ever more influential in the world of the alt-right and beyond.
Tomgram: Arnold Isaacs, In Present American Wars, Repeating Past Mistakes | TomDispatch
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/01/politics/fred-fleitz-john-bolton-chief-of-staff/index.html

Isaacs, who has been covering anti-Muslim bigotry in this country for this website, lays out today just how the Islamophobes make their "case."
--Tom--

American Islamophobia’s Fake Facts
Their "Proof" Is Not What They Say

By Arnold R. Isaacs

Anti-Muslim activists in the United States were operating in a "post-truth era" and putting out "alternative facts" long before those phrases entered the language. For the last decade they have been spreading provable falsehoods through their well-organized network of publications and websites.

A major theme of those falsehoods is telling the U.S. public that Islam is inherently dangerous and that American Muslims, even if they do not embrace extremist religious beliefs or violent actions, are still a threat to national security. To back up that conclusion, the well-funded Islamophobia publicity machine incessantly repeats two specific assertions.

The first is that Muslims in this country have been engaged in a "stealth" or "civilizational jihad" -- a long-term, far-reaching conspiracy to infiltrate the U.S. legal system and other public institutions and bring America under Islamic law. The companion claim is that mainstream Muslim-American organizations are effectively "fronts" for the Muslim Brotherhood and so secretly controlled by international terrorists. In fact, the Brotherhood has not been designated as a terror organization by the U.S. government, and there are not the slightest grounds for thinking it, or any other secret force, controls any national Muslim-American group.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...e-the-muslim-brotherhood-as-a-terrorist-group

The Islamophobes offer only two pieces of supporting "evidence," one for each of those claims. Exhibit A is a document falsely called the Brotherhood's "master plan" for the clandestine effort to establish Muslim dominance in the United States.
(PDF Document)
https://web.archive.org/web/2015060...v/judges/hlf2/09-25-08/Elbarasse Search 3.pdf

Exhibit B is a list of several hundred "unindicted co-conspirators," including the Council on American Islamic Relations and other mainstream national Muslim organizations, that federal prosecutors put into the record during a 2007 terrorism-financing trial in Texas.
(PDF Document)
https://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/423.pdf

If you look at the exhibits themselves, instead of the descriptions of them by anti-Muslim groups, it’s obvious that neither is what the Islamophobes say it is or proves what they allege it proves.

The Secret Plan That Wasn’t

Let’s start with the so-called master plan, a memorandum written nearly three decades ago that is not just the centerpiece but essentially the sole source for the tale of a "civilizational jihad" conspiracy.

The Islamophobia network unfailingly refers to the memorandum as an official declaration of Muslim Brotherhood strategy. Frank Gaffney, head of the Center for Security Policy and perhaps the country's most prominent Islamophobe, called it "the Muslim Brotherhood secret plan for taking down our country."
https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...warns-about-islamic-groups-civilization-jihad
(PDF Document)
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/08/pdf/islamophobia_chapter2.pdf

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, two other leading voices in the anti-Muslim chorus, have written that "the Brotherhood lays out a plan [in the document] to do nothing less than conquer and Islamize the United States."

Those statements are, however, unsupported by facts of any sort. The document, dated May 1991 and titled "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America," is real, but there is no evidence that it represents the views of anyone other than the single Brotherhood member who wrote it.
(PDF Document)
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/08/pdf/islamophobia_chapter4.pdf
(PDF Document)
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/08/pdf/islamophobia_chapter2.pdf
https://books.google.com/books?id=9...fvIAWsQ6AEIOjAD#v=onepage&q=geller spencer %2

For that matter, no one has ever found any indication that anyone other than the author even saw the text, written in Arabic, until 13 years after it was completed, when it was coincidentally unearthed in a storage box during an FBI search of a home in Annandale, Virginia. No other copy is known to exist. Its wording makes it unmistakably clear that the writer was proposing a strategy to the Brotherhood’s leadership, not presenting a plan approved by any authority. No evidence has come to light that suggests his proposals were ever considered, let alone adopted, by the Muslim Brotherhood leadership.

Gaffney and the many other Islamophobes who cite it as proof of a "stealth jihad" threat against the United States have never presented additional documentation of any kind. No known Muslim Brotherhood correspondence or records refer to the memorandum, as one would expect if there had been a formal discussion of it or even an exchange between the author and any Brotherhood governing body.

After a careful search of available Brotherhood records, researchers at Georgetown University's Bridge Initiative, which combats Islamophobia, determined that neither the memorandum nor its specific proposals appear in any documents they found.
“Civilization Jihad:� Debunking the Conspiracy Theory - The Bridge Initiative | A Research Project on Islamophobia

That includes records from the Brotherhood Shura Council's 1991 meeting, where the memorandum's author had specifically asked to have it put on the agenda. Other investigators have similarly failed to find any trace of the memorandum in other records. David Shipler, who wrote about it at length in his book Freedom of Speech, calls it an "orphan document" -- and a childless orphan at that.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307947610

Taking Down Our Country? Not Exactly...

As well as falsely representing the memorandum's status, the Islamophobes are also notably less than accurate in describing its contents.

They regularly quote a single sentence that refers to "destroying the Western civilization from within" so that "God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." But that’s the only line in 18 pages of text that even comes close to suggesting the idea of "taking down our country," as Gaffney puts it. Aside from that single reference there is no other mention of destroying Western civilization, no discussion of when that downfall might come about or how it might be achieved "from within." There’s not a word about penetrating government structures or the legal system, nothing about clandestine action or a secret plot to take power.

Instead, the plan's dominant concept -- similar to the evangelical vision preached in many religions -- is achieving Islamic supremacy through proselytizing and conversion. Virtually the entire text focuses on believers, not non-believers, and how to organize and strengthen the Muslim community in the U.S. so that it will be better able to carry out that effort.

"It is not a plot. It is a missionary strategy," Edward Curtis IV, professor of religious studies and editor of the Encyclopedia of Muslim-American History, told me in an email after reading the memorandum. The document comes much closer to that description than to Gaffney's.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0816075751

At its heart is a long list of specific ideas for establishing -- openly, not secretly -- Muslim structures in many areas of public life: education, law, media, financial institutions, art and culture, social and charitable work, and so on. A recommendation to create "clubs for training and learning self-defense techniques" is the only item on the list that even glancingly touches on any sort of violent action.

The purpose of such an organizing effort, the author explains, is to pursue the Brotherhood's declared goal of "enablement of Islam in North America," which he says has these components: "establishing an effective and a stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims' causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims' efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic State wherever it is."

When those aims are achieved, the writer argues, Muslims will be more united, politically and economically stronger, truer to their faith, and more committed to dawa (proselytizing), which will eventually realize the Prophet's vision and establish Islam as the universally accepted one true religion.
Dawah - Oxford Islamic Studies Online

For many believers, dawa (also spelled dawah) has political as well as spiritual goals, including the ultimate establishment of an Islamic state. But the Brotherhood has traditionally conceived of it as a nonviolent process, conducted through persuasion and grassroots organizing, not a violent one carried out through acts of terror or sabotage.

The memorandum's message is consistent with the Brotherhood's conservative theology and its dream of an Islamized world. But it is not the sinister conspiracy the Islamophobes keep talking about without providing any evidence that it exists.

The Co-Conspiracy Theory Is Missing Any Facts

The other main thread in the anti-Muslim narrative -- the charge that mainstream Muslim-American organizations generally, and CAIR (the Council on American-Islamic Relations) in particular, have "terror ties" -- is similarly based on a single piece of "evidence." Like the Brotherhood’s "master plan," it, too, is misleadingly presented and does not prove the Islamophobes' allegations.

The document that supposedly verifies the claim that CAIR and other groups are linked to Islamist terrorism is a list of "unindicted co-conspirators" attached to a pre-trial brief submitted by prosecutors in 2007 in the Holy Land Foundation case. (By the way, that’s the same trial where the "explanatory memorandum" first surfaced.) In that case, five leaders of a Texas-based Islamic charity were eventually convicted of donating to charitable programs linked with Hamas, the group that now controls the Gaza Strip and is a U.S. government-designated terrorist organization.

That list was not submitted as evidence and, despite the ominous sound of that label "co-conspirator," it was not accompanied by any specific allegations of terrorist involvement or of an explicit conspiratorial act by any of the organizations or individuals named on the list. Rather, the prosecutors filed the brief for purely tactical reasons. Their aim: getting around the usual ban on hearsay testimony, which can be introduced when an out-of-court statement comes from someone officially named as a co-conspirator.

In the Holy Land case itself, the defendants were not accused of directly aiding any terrorist activity, and no specific violent act is mentioned anywhere in the charges.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n02/francis-fitzgibbon/low-hanging-fruit
https://web.archive.org/web/2008050...t/articles/spring2008a/deception-discord.html

The U.S. government itself acknowledged that some of the donated funds supported legitimate humanitarian projects.

The connection with CAIR is even more tenuous. The only link: that CAIR's founder, Omar Ahmad, was associated with the U.S. Palestine Committee, an umbrella group for Holy Land and other organizations. Ahmad's activities, however, took place in the early 1990s before Hamas was declared a terrorist group.

In a 2009 ruling on a motion from CAIR and two other organizations seeking to be removed from the list, a U.S. district judge held that the co-conspirator designation was "unaccompanied by any facts" indicating possible terrorist connections.
(PDF Document)
https://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/1425.pdf

Strongly criticizing the prosecutors for putting it into the open record in the first place, he ordered the list sealed. It had, however, already been so widely circulated that no order could keep it from public view. Meanwhile, after reviewing the list, the Justice Department concluded that no criminal investigation of any sort was warranted.

According to the American Civil Liberties Union, which represented the two other organizations named on the list -- the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) -- prosecutors made no claim that the "co-conspirators" had actually conspired in any way to help terrorists or engaged in any other criminal activity. In a press release accompanying one of its court filings, the ACLU noted that "the government conceded... that it had absolutely no evidence proving that either ISNA or NAIT had engaged in a criminal conspiracy."
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-chal...izing-mainstream-muslim-groups-holy-land-case

The lead prosecutor in the Holy Land case, the ACLU statement went on, told the organizations' lawyers that they "were not subjects or targets in the HLF prosecution or in any other pending investigation."

In the more than 11 years since the list was made public, no new information has emerged that corroborates the inflammatory assertion that CAIR or the other Muslim-American groups are terrorist organizations or fronts for Hamas. Nor have researchers who track homegrown terror cases turned up any known link between a national Muslim-American organization and any violent incident. David Sterman, who manages the think tank New America's extensive Terrorism in America database, says flatly, "Neither CAIR nor any other major American Muslim organization has played a role in jihadist terrorist plotting in the United States." (That's true of the Muslim Brotherhood, too. Internationally, some Brotherhood offshoots have engaged in terrorism. But despite overwrought claims from the anti-Muslim set, the Brotherhood has never been implicated in any violent act of terror in the United States. Even the Trump administration has decided not to add it to the list of officially designated terror organizations.)
https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-muslimbrotherhood-idUSKBN15D0VV

Proving a negative is always a hard proposition, but one strong backup for this one is what the Islamophobes themselves say -- or, more precisely, don't say. While they unceasingly slam CAIR's alleged terrorism ties, Gaffney, Geller, and their cohorts have not offered a single plausible example of an incident of Islamist terrorism in which CAIR or one of the other organizations on their smear list was involved.

If the Islamophobes had even one actual case, they would certainly have proclaimed it nonstop, at top volume. So its absence from their rhetoric is a clear sign that they have no such evidence -- in all likelihood because, like the Muslim Brotherhood's "civilizational jihad," it doesn't exist.

Inventing Make-Believe Enemies Helps the Real Ones

Those untruths are not just bigoted and dishonest but dangerous. In the struggle against the real threat from violent Islamic extremism, the Islamophobes' false statements and overall message help the terrorists, not the security of Americans.

Falsely demonizing all Muslims, their beliefs, and their institutions is exactly the wrong way to make Americans safer, because the more we scare ourselves with imaginary enemies, the harder it will be to find and protect ourselves from real ones. As New America's David Sterman points out, "The vast majority of jihadist activity today is not even organized by radical clerics, returned fighters, or militant operatives but instead is mediated online or via small peer groups of friends." Those threats will not be detected by pursuing nonexistent conspiracies. The surest way to find them will be through information from relatives, neighbors, religious teachers, fellow worshippers -- that is, in the great majority of cases, fellow Muslims.

The vast majority of American Muslims oppose extremism and violence by Muslims or anyone else and have no wish to live under the brutal rule practiced by jihadist fanatics. As a religious minority in a country where their faith makes them potential victims of hate crimes, Muslims have stronger reasons than most Americans for believing in and practicing religious tolerance, not holy war. Keeping Muslim Americans as allies and maintaining their trust in our common values and political and legal institutions will be critical in successfully opposing extremist violence. Losing that trust and driving them away, as the Islamophobes' ugly falsehoods inevitably will, can only help the terrorists.

 
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Venezuela and North Korea are Muslim countries that are 1/4 of the travel ban?




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHITE TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Muslims have NEVER forgiven Britain for liberating them from the Ottoman Empire!!!!!!!!!!


And then telling Muslims that the price of liberation was to have to SHARE land with hated Jews!!!!!


Muslims fought and LOST FOUR WARS with Jews and now Muslims are fighting us because of THEIR sour grapes!!!!!!!!


And Muslims have never forgiven Britain from taking control of Iraq after the First World War!


Too bad that Britain used that Iraqi oil to fuel the fighters that won the Battle of Britain and fueled the ships that won the Battle of the Atlantic!!!!!


Britain used that oil to SAVE NON WHITES!!!!!!!!


Adolf Hitler referred publicly- during the Munich 1936 Olympics - to Yankee sprinter and black man Jesse Owens as "that black animal"!


Hitler also suggested that Yankees had insulted all real human beings by bringing the black animal to compete against humans!!!



And brown skinned Muslims want to THINK that Nazism with its racial purity laws was a strictly EUROPEAN PROBLEM??????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now Muslims want to convince us that white terrorists are a bigger threat to the world than Muslims simply because a few white NUTS LASHED BACK AT MUSLIMS!!!!!!


It is illegal to shoot people anyplace in North America simply because you dont like them and the white public accepts this as LAW!!!!!



This fact contrasts SHARPLY with Muslim opinion which suggests the majority of Muslims in Britain WOULD STAY SILENT if they knew about a Muslim terror plot!!!!! They would NOT tell the authorities!!!!!!!



WE do not think that Muslim silence over terror plots- whether motivated by fear of retaliation from other Muslims- or by genuine belief that white people have it coming to them- is a good characteristic for immigrants to hold!!!!



The majority of us want Muslims to be quarantined so they cannot reach us and cause trouble or further harm!!!!
 

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Islam and Christianity have been in conflict since the Muslims stormed out the desert to subjugate the world to Mohammed the Prophet and Sharia Law and to put the Infidel to the sword in the 7th Century. Islamic communities established in the West have never fully integrated with Christian Culture.

Throughout Europe and now North America they live in self contained ghettos from generation to generation and interface with periodic violence and mutual incomprehension with the predominate cultural ethos. History has shown the two to be irreconcilable.

But both are them are the only religions with global messianic missions. More moderate forms of Islam come under continual attack from purists who view dialogue and compromise with the West as a producing a contaminated form of the faith. Nothing has changed in 14 Centuries and the modern zeitgiest has no secular solution for it.
 
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Islam and Christianity have been in conflict since the Muslims stormed out the desert to subjugate the world to Mohammed the Prophet and Sharia Law and to put the Infidel to the sword in the 7th Century. Islamic communities established in the West have never fully integrated with Christian Culture.

Throughout Europe and now North America they live in self contained ghettos from generation to generation and interface with periodic violence and mutual incomprehension with the predominate cultural ethos. History has shown the two to be irreconcilable.

But both are them are the only religions with global messianic missions. More moderate forms of Islam come under continual attack from purists who view dialogue and compromise with the West as a producing a contaminated form of the faith. Nothing has changed in 14 Centuries and the modern zeitgiest has no secular solution for it.


Global Messianic Mission for CANADIAN CHRISTIANS???????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Cdn Catholic Church is currently FAILING to get summer job grants from our LIE-beral overlords - while Muslim groups with hard links to terrorist organizations get grants with NO questions asked!!!!!!!



There are TWO GLOBAL MISSIONS currently operating in Canada!



The first is by Muslims seeking to force Canada into the World Wide Caliphate and make us adopt Sharia Law!!!


And the second Global Mission is implemented by Cdn LIE-berals who are seeking to destroy what Pierre Trudeau called "Cdn Imperialism"!


Cdn Imperialism is no better defined than LIE-beral Islamophobia but both have a LIE-beral DICTATORSHIP AT HEART!!!!







Here is an article illustrating how distressed LIE-berals are as all their policies are exposed as costly failures at best and as draconian dictatorship via govt mandated mind control at worst! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Liberals double down on threats to regulate social media.

By Anthony Furey. Published: February 27, 2018. Updated: February 27, 2018 7:27 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists/

The Trudeau Liberals are getting serious about their plans to regulate companies like Facebook and appear to be in the early stages of an action plan.

While Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reportedly brought up the issue recently in person to Facebook Chief Operating Office Sheryl Sandberg, the actual work would fall to Minister of Democratic Institutions Karina Gould.

“Minister Gould has repeatedly stated that while social media companies are taking initial steps to ensure that their platforms are not being used as tools for foreign disinformation campaigns to undermine Canada’s democratic institutions, there still remains a great deal of work to be done,” wrote Nicky Cayer, spokesperson for Gould, in an email to the Sun. “This is a challenge that is being faced by democracies around the world. We are studying other countries’ approaches to see what works and what does not, what would be appropriate in a Canadian context and what — like censoring Canadians’ speech — would be unacceptable.”

(Sadly, LIE-berals have proven themselves only too happy to censor Cdn opinions they do not like- while ignoring foreign influences they do like! Their Human Rights but too often Wrong Kangaroo Courts are busy bullying Cdns for holding anti LIE-beral opinions! One has only to look at the Mississauga man arrested last summer on hate crime charges because he dared to offer money to any person who could provide him with verifiable proof of hate speech taking place in Cdn mosques! Yes- under our LIE-beral mind control police it is illegal to ask for proof of views and opinions that LIE-berals chose not to discuss! Even worse- at the same time- our Nazi style bully boy LIE-berals IGNORED two Cdn reporters who reported in main stream media that there was NO moderate writing on any Cdn based Muslim web site- yes- even in Canada the moderates are being shouted down by radicals- while our LIE-beral overlords harass people seeking proof of the existence of Islamic radicals in Canada!)

While hand-wringing over the term ‘fake news’ became all the rage following the 2016 U.S. presidential election of Donald Trump, there are no major examples of any jurisdiction actually regulating against ‘foreign disinformation campaigns’ for the Liberals to learn from.

French President Emmanuel Macron recently pledged to ban ‘fake news’ during election campaigns, but failed to offer policy specifics. Policymakers’ concerns over the phenomenon aren’t isolated to the West, ranging as far as the Philippines.

(LIE-berals know we don’t like being lied to-but they do it anyway! Letting LIE-berals regulate news is like letting an alcoholic guard the liquor store!)

The most recent examples of regulating or restricting social media tend to involve tackling some version of hate speech, granting tools for users to report what they consider offensive posts. The European Union got tech firms to agree in 2016 to responding to online hate complaints within 24 hours, although studies have shown they’ve had trouble keeping pace.

(Such an approach is doomed to fail- one way or another. For instance- LIE-berals feed us a steady diet of Fake News- anything from reports of our “booming economy” to self promotion of smart meters and auto insurance rates- and yet in each case we see that LIE-berals are NOT telling the truth! Smart meters have NOT saved us money as they have enabled LIE-berals to be more selective about charging premium rates for power. LIE-berals tell us the economy is booming and yet cannot explain why there is that 30 percent jump in use of homeless shelters in Toronto- nor can they tell us why debt in Canada is rising to such dangerous levels if we are so flush with new cash- nor can they explain why it is that health care must be rationed in “booming” Ontari-owe! LIE-berals have also told us their 2017 budget was balanced and our auditor general says that is Fake News that was engineered with accounting methods never taught in any respectable school of business! And we know that LIE-berals consider it hate crime to have people contradict them so laughing at their FAKE economic news IS hate- for them!)

The Liberals haven’t offered up any working definition of what ‘foreign disinformation’ means to them. Despite that, they apparently still see some urgency to the situation, with Gould telling CBC last week that their plan may commence as early as six months from now.

(A couple of years back there were alleged to be a series of sex assaults by Muslims in Germany and Sweden around the new years eve- with the assaults alleged to have been carried out by Muslim immigrants and refugees- would our LIE-berals consider it to be foreign disinformation if Europeans reported that the rapes WERE committed by Muslims? LIE-berals have displayed a disturbing tendency to shoot the messenger bearing unhappy news- and then destroying the messages- unread!)

“Are we going to see something more robust in the next six months?” she said of self-policing by social media giants. “If we don’t see something more robust in the next six months, then we need to take action.”

(LIE-beral willingness to compromise long established rules of law- in exchange for short term show boating intended to buy votes is on display as LIE-berals have tabled legislation that will limit the ability of lawyers to challenge the jury selection process! It is the usual ill considered LIE-beral deal- they do not like the Coulton Boushie jury verdict and so they will destroy the jury selection process that has been in place for hundreds of years- and replace it with BIGOTRY!)

(LIE-berals would disapprove of a Ku Klux Klan racist sitting in judgement on a black man! Yet LIE-berals se nothing wrong with forcing lawyers accept a jury loaded with native bigots sitting in judgement of a white man accused of defending himself from a native thief! LIE-berals consider us all to be systemic racists because 80 percent of Cdns condemn LIE-beral immigration policy and want illegals and Muslim terrorists deported- yet LIE-berals are quite happy to defy our will in this- democracy and justice are on a ONE WAY STREET for LIE-berals- its all for them as they DICTATE what is fair- TO THEM!)

Meanwhile, legislation put forward by Conservative Senator Linda Frum designed to tackle foreign funding to registered third-parties during election season has been languishing for nine months due to inaction on the part of Liberal-appointed Senators.

(In one example of foreign funding, the David Suzuki Foundation has openly admitted to accepting millions of dollars from Yankee “super pac” political organizations in exchange for Suzuki support against Alberta tar sands! If Yankees are so troubled by tar sand oil extraction then why do they not attack the California La Brea tar sand operation in their own country? Is it because they simply want to shut down Alberta so that La Brea oil becomes more valuable when the market shortage hits? And should we not ask the same thing of Yankees giving funds to Cdn environmental groups that want to block pipelines and halt logging operations in Canada- while that same business flourishes in United States? How much funding are Cdn lobbyists getting from foreigners to promote economic activities that will harm Canada- WITHOUT having any effect on the environment? Halting production in Canada and shifting it/expanding it in other jurisdictions will do NOTHING for the environment! But foreign investors WILL benefit from closing Cdn business! )

It’s unclear when Gould will commence next steps and what form those steps will take.

(Yes- LIE-berals must be very careful as they move forward with their selfish and racist dictatorship! They do not want to be caught out blatantly promoting their own version of Hate and Bigotry! Too many Cdns are already angry with LIE-berals over their MANY failed policies- LIE-berals are having their hands tied by angry public opinion that is turning against them on all fronts!)