Is Obama the worst president ever?

Tonington

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If I had any reason to be ashamed or embarrassed about my charitable works, I would feel the same way.

Shame and embarrassment have nothing to do with it. I don't take unnecessary risks to glorify my ego and indulge in vanity. Something you said you didn't need to satisfy either.

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Tonington

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How did this thread go from Obama to charity to identity theft?

First it derailed to Jimmy Carter, then to Jimmy Carter's charitable works, and then someone brought up their confidence in the weight of their own charitable works, and then a personal challenge, and then I brought up identity theft.
 

YukonJack

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"How did this thread go from Obama to charity to identity theft?"

"First it derailed to Jimmy Carter, then to Jimmy Carter's charitable works, and then someone brought up their confidence in the weight of their own charitable works, and then a personal challenge, and then I brought up identity theft."

Since the topic was about the worst president, not bringing Jimmy Carter in the picture would have been a dereliction of duty.

If it deteriorated after that, blame the usual suspects. Perhaps myself included.

But, as a rule any and all threads are hi-jacked by the same people, sooner or later.
 

JLM

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"But, as a rule any and all threads are hi-jacked by the same people, sooner or later."

YOu and "The Great I am"........................LOL
 

SirJosephPorter

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SirJosephPorter puked thus:

"I se, but you have no problem claiming attention for your charitable work here on internet, where anybody could lie about anything, there is no way of verifying any statement anybody makes here about themselves."

SirJosephPorter, let me propose something to you: You and I will present our respective PROVABLE credentials regarding charitable works via a personal mail to any of the moderators. Under the rules of anonimity, our real identities can be safe, but our accomplishments in helping others can be compared.

Are you game? Or are just a socialist windbag who is only generous with the money and/or efforts of others?

Sorry, YJ. I am sure moderators have their hands full without getting involved into the disputes between individual posters. Controlling the misbehavior by the posters is as much as they can handle.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I wouldn't share those details of my life on the web. I'm reasonably sure that Ron et al. aren't untrustworthy, but it's still a risk to trust personal details to the open web tubes...

Quite so. Plus, I am sure they have better things to do than get involved in petty disputes. I know if I am a moderator and somebody came to me with such an asinine request, I would tell him to get lost, in a pretty rude manner.
 

JLM

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Sorry, YJ. I am sure moderators have their hands full without getting involved into the disputes between individual posters. Controlling the misbehavior by the posters is as much as they can handle.

Didn't I tell you Y.J.? Am I a "mind" reader or what? :lol::lol::lol:
 

EagleSmack

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Do you think that perhaps is Americans looked after their health just a little bit they wouldn't have this huge health bill. Nobody has to have the huge amount of garbage that passes off as fast food, and those that do eat that junk are the primary cause of the medical costs running wild. If the money that is wasted in places like Rotten Ronnies was spent on health care instead there would probably be no need to tax workers for health care.

Right on!

That's why Candians get to be 2 years older... America's diet is garbage. Drug and alcohol use is abused too.

Not me though. I'm not going down that road. P90X! That is what I live by.
 

DaSleeper

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I do believe somebody's bluff has been called....
As far as privacy goes I have some personal pictures go, I have a bunch in my album that can be seen by at about 18 members of this forum and moderators...There might not be pictures of me because I'm usually holding the camera...but I don't hide who I am and the picture are not generics that can be found in travel magazines;-):lol:
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Exactly how is blaming Bush and the Republicans justification for Obama throwing gasoline on an already raging fire?

Obama took the job knowing full well what was in store; he's taking some huge risks that can (potentially) have huge ramifications if things don't go as planned.

Right, Obama is the risk taker.

Do a little examination of the last decade and the amazing thing is America is still in one piece.

Obama is trying to put out the fires that the Bush adiminstration started all over the world while trying to deal with the social and economic devastation left behind in America itself after eight years of incompetence and corruption. He's made a sincere effort to meet the republicans halfway but has been almost entirely rejected. Wall Street clearly needs reigning in but the republicans are trying to block him there too.

As far as I'm concerned many republicans have come to the point where they think their party is far more important than the nation.
 

sombraa110

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Right, Obama is the risk taker.

Do a little examination of the last decade and the amazing thing is America is still in one piece.

Obama is trying to put out the fires that the Bush adiminstration started all over the world while trying to deal with the social and economic devastation left behind in America itself after eight years of incompetence and corruption. He's made a sincere effort to meet the republicans halfway but has been almost entirely rejected. Wall Street clearly needs reigning in but the republicans are trying to block him there too.



Barack Obama’s deep bow to the emperor of Japan and earlier bow to the Saudi Arabian king is so deeply offensive to America’s history and traditions that it cannot and must not be explained away in any fashion.

The framers of the U.S. Constitution were particularly sensitive to the conditions under which a President could serve or any hint that a privileged, monarchal class might emerge.

“No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States. And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of Congress, accept any present, Emolument, Office or Title, of any kind whatever from any King, Prince, or foreign state.”

It follows that no U.S. President or office holder shall ever bow to a king, prince or foreign state. Obama has done this twice now in less than a year of taking the oath of office. Stated or unstated, the protocol of such matters precludes bowing.

This protocol is reflected in flag etiquette that prohibits it from being “dipped to any person or thing.”

For a man who allegedly taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago, it is doubtful that Obama does not know this. It is doubtful that he cares. His first instinct with foreign leaders and foreign nations is to toady to their perceptions in the belief that America will gain their acceptance.

Any leader, however, knows that it is wiser to be feared than loved. It is the reason the U.S. maintains a powerful military. It is well to remember that our present Department of Defense used to be known as the Department of War.

That is why Ovbama’s decision to bring the 9/11 perpetrators to the United States and accord them all the rights of the Constitution in a trial for acts of war is a further abomination. This was not Eric Holder’s decision as Attorney General. This was Barack Obama’s decision, completely in line with his continued obeisance to Middle Eastern and Muslim sensibilities.