Iranian regime ‘frightens me,’ Harper says

darkbeaver

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You are ignoring...
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
- Matthew 5:43-48

Nothing burns evil to ash like the fire of love in a crushing searing hug.
 

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Ah, so you can be an Arab in Israel without fear? That's awesome, Arabs don't have their houses bulldozed to make way for Jews, that's great. Light vs dark, indeed. Arab settlements aren't cleared out or anything. Thanks for pointing that out.

Yup, all those things are true. Arabs have every opportunity in Israel:

Ask Shirin Shlian, a 20-year-old IDF soldier from one of the Galilee's Arab villages, whose job in the Israeli army is to encourage high school students to enlist – and better yet, to join combat units.

Flying High

Muslim soldier serving as medic on IAF’s special airborne search and rescue unit is candidate to become airborne medic


While many Jewish youngsters are doing their best to evade military service, the story of the Shlian family sounds pretty unbelievable: Shirin isn't the only one serving in the IDF – her brother is a major in a combat unit and another brother served in the Border Guard.

Arab IDF soldier: Proud to serve my country - Israel Activism, Ynetnews

Doesn't sound like a fearful marginalized apharteided people to me.
 

darkbeaver

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Yup, all those things are true. Arabs have every opportunity in Israel:

Ask Shirin Shlian, a 20-year-old IDF soldier from one of the Galilee's Arab villages, whose job in the Israeli army is to encourage high school students to enlist – and better yet, to join combat units.

Flying High

Muslim soldier serving as medic on IAF’s special airborne search and rescue unit is candidate to become airborne medic


While many Jewish youngsters are doing their best to evade military service, the story of the Shlian family sounds pretty unbelievable: Shirin isn't the only one serving in the IDF – her brother is a major in a combat unit and another brother served in the Border Guard.

Arab IDF soldier: Proud to serve my country - Israel Activism, Ynetnews

Doesn't sound like a fearful marginalized apharteided people to me.

I wonder if you hadn't hand picked the positive quotes would it still sound so pleasant to you? How are you JtF? It's nice to see you around.
 

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Here's another good example:

Warning: The following video shows scenes of abject Israeli apartheid

Putting Some Lies To Bed(ouin) : Israellycool

I wonder if you hadn't hand picked the positive quotes would it still sound so pleasant to you? How are you JtF? It's nice to see you around.

I'm very well thanks, nice to see you still here also.

I'm looking for the less pleasant quotes, the credible ones, have been for a long time. I'll let you know when I find them. :)
 

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Yup, all those things are true. Arabs have every opportunity in Israel:

Ask Shirin Shlian, a 20-year-old IDF soldier from one of the Galilee's Arab villages, whose job in the Israeli army is to encourage high school students to enlist – and better yet, to join combat units.

Flying High

Muslim soldier serving as medic on IAF’s special airborne search and rescue unit is candidate to become airborne medic


While many Jewish youngsters are doing their best to evade military service, the story of the Shlian family sounds pretty unbelievable: Shirin isn't the only one serving in the IDF – her brother is a major in a combat unit and another brother served in the Border Guard.

Arab IDF soldier: Proud to serve my country - Israel Activism, Ynetnews

Doesn't sound like a fearful marginalized apharteided people to me.

So, Israel doesn't bulldoze Arab houses. That's cool.
 

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So, Israel doesn't bulldoze Arab houses. That's cool.

Of course they do, but not to make way for Jews. They bulldoze Israeli houses too, and Arabs bulldoze Arabs houses, and....you better sit down for this and swallow that coffee....Canadians bulldoze Canadians houses!! Just this summer a bunch of houses at the end of my street were bulldozed to make way for a townhouse development. It happens.

Here's a question, why doesn't the building of housing for Arabs spark international outrage to the point of demands by the leader of the free world that they cease and desist? Only Jews get that privilege. :)

Also, you realize that selling land to a Jew in the disputed territories is a capital offense right? As in dead. Sell a house to a Jew, we kill you. Isn't that apartheid? There are no such laws as that in Israel. Yet we have TWO weeks of Israeli Apartheid week at York, and NO weeks of Palestinian Arab Apartheid week. Why is that?

But anyway, we digress, this is supposed to be about Iran. :)
 

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UK jamming IRIB signals from Bahrain
Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:11PM GMT



The signal of Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) channels on the Hotbird satellite provider has reportedly been jammed by British technicians operating from Bahrain.


The transmission of jamming signals on frequency: 12437 MHz, horizontal position, symbol rate: 27500, FEC ¾ began on Tuesday afternoon.

The Eutelsat telecommunication giant declined to comment on the problem after IRIB contacted them for clarification earlier on Tuesday.

HMV/MYA/IS
 

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setting the record straight:

House demolition is typically justified by the IDF on the basis of:

Deterrence, achieved by harming the relatives of those who carry out, or are suspected of involvement in carrying out, attacks[3]
Counter-terrorism, by destroying militant facilities such as bombs labs, headquarters, and offices
Legality, according to building and housing regulations
Forcing out an individual barricaded inside a house, which may be rigged with explosives, without risking soldiers' lives
Self-defence, by destroying possible hideouts and rocket propelled grenade/gun posts[8]
Combat engineering, clearing a path for tanks and heavy armoured personnel carriers

Human rights organisations' criticism

The United Nations (UN) and human rights groups such as Amnesty International and the International Committee of the Red Cross who oppose the house demolitions reject the IDF's claims, and document numerous instances where they argue the IDF's claims do not apply.[1] They accuse the Israeli government and IDF of other motives:

Collective punishment, the punishment of an innocent Palestinian "for an offence he or she has not personally committed."[1][9]
Theft of Palestinian land by annexation to build the Israeli West Bank barrier or to create, expand or otherwise benefit Israeli settlements.[1][10]

According to the United Nations, about 1,500 homes were demolished by the IDF just in the Rafah area in the period 2000-2004.[11]

In 2004, Human Rights Watch published the report 'Razing Rafah: Mass Home Demolitions in the Gaza Strip'.[12][13] The report documented what it described as a "pattern of illegal demolitions" by the IDF in Rafah, a refugee camp and city at the southern end of the Gaza Strip on the border with Egypt where sixteen thousand people lost their homes after the Israeli government approved a plan to expand the de facto "buffer zone" in May 2004.[13][14] The IDF’s main stated rationales for the demolitions were; responding to and preventing attacks on its forces and the suppression of weapons smuggling through tunnels from Egypt[15]

Video: Israeli forces violently ethnically cleanse Bedouin homes in Beit Hanina | The Electronic Intifada

The al-Rajabi home was rebuilt a second time last year after Israeli bulldozers destroyed the first home in 2008. With assistance from local nongovernmental organizations, including the Israeli Committee Against Home Demolitions (ICAHD), the home had been reconstructed as the family worked with an attorney to obtain legal building permits — to no avail.

“The Jerusalem municipality demolished six houses in East Jerusalem claiming they were built illegally, ignoring the fact that the municipality makes it impossible for Palestinians to obtain permits in order to build legally,”
 

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Unsubstantiated Harper BS: ...a consensus is growing among world leaders that Iran would have no hesitation using nuclear arms once they develop the weapons and the capability to deliver them.

eao: Iran's leaders have repeatedly condemned all countries which possess nuclear weapons. They claim they have no interest in acquiring nukes and their religious leaders consider nukes to be against Islamic principles.

Unsubstantiated Harper BS: "There is absolutely no doubt they are lying"
eao: I've never seen any evidence which indicates that the Iranians have lied about their nuclear activities. Harper gives no evidence to support his claims. While I believe there is a strong case that the Iranians have not made a full disclosure of all their activities before they ratified some of the NPT's voluntary confidence building protocols, they also are not obliged to reveal those activities now either as per the terms of the NPT. I believe most of the evidence supports Iran's statements about the peaceful nature of their nuclear programs. Iran likely has no intention to build nuclear weapons. If they did, they'd have built and tested one by now.

Harper BS
: This is not, as was the case of Iraq, merely the opinion of allies,”
eao: Only a few nations and world leaders believe Iran plans to build nuclear weapons. Even US intelligence which believes Iran was working on nukes at one time, claims that Iran stopped all nuclear weapon research by 2003, when they agreed to open up their program to IAEA inspection. The fact is that peaceful nuclear research and nuclear weapon research are the same up to a point. Iran officially appears not to have crossed any NPT violating lines.

I agree with Harper regarding the pipelines in that the process should be timely and fair. If the foreign oil companies have a right to present their case, then so should foreign environmental groups.... provided neither unduly delays the process. I think the pipeline should not go through pristine wilderness areas and instead stick to already developed corridors. If this costs Enbridge more money, then the Canadian government should help offset the additional costs associated with using a less environmentally senstive route with grants, subsidies and tax breaks.
 

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If Iran doing nothing frighten hims I wonder how he will react to Syria having fleets of these?
The article doesn't specify what type or where the pilots will be seated. With the 2nd picture being the actual craft you won't be jumping in and coming back a winner. A remote version could be piped in via Russian Top Ace centers and Syria maintains and reloads



That tail rotor looks like the one lost in the OBL raid.



Make Isreal the only recipient of the bomb grade stuff and Israel would be donating parts to speed up the process
 
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setting the record straight:

The record was never askew. Your example below essentially proves my point.

The al-Rajabi home was rebuilt a second time last year after Israeli bulldozers destroyed the first home in 2008. With assistance from local nongovernmental organizations, including the Israeli Committee Against Home Demolitions (ICAHD), the home had been reconstructed as the family worked with an attorney to obtain legal building permits — to no avail.

Try bulding a house in Mississuaga without a permit and see if you don't hear bulldozers.

The comment below is another example of why I always come across seeming pro-Israel.....because whenever I try to see the Palestinain point of view, I'm inundated with BS like this:

“The Jerusalem municipality demolished six houses in East Jerusalem claiming they were built illegally, ignoring the fact that the municipality makes it impossible for Palestinians to obtain permits in order to build legally,”

Not only are permits issued to eastern Jerusalem, but, as Weiner's study notes, "the percentage of applications that result in the issuance of a building permit is virtually identical in Arab and Jewish neighborhoods" of Jerusalem. Furthermore, the study shows, the city has "authorize[d] the issuance of in excess of 33,000 permits for new housing units in the Arab sector," suggesting that the number of permits issued to the Arab sector could be much higher if only more individuals from that sector would apply for permits.

CAMERA: Ha'aretz Tales on Building Permits Grow Taller
 

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Iranian "elections"....HA!

If the Iranian elections succeed in marginalizing moderate candidates, the Guardian Council is going to inadvertently strengthen war-mongering voices around the world, but especially in the U.S.,” their study says. Iran’s Guardian Council, which vets all potential parliamentary candidates to ensure they will faithfully uphold Iran’s Islamic constitution, barred 1,951 prospective candidates from participating in Friday’s election, approving a predominantly conservative field of 3,444 candidates to contest 290 seats in the Majles.

So now it is a contest between psycho and extremely psycho......

Iran election pits hardliners against harder-liners | Full Comment | National Post
 

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Need I remind you the Herpster is out to jail all pot smokers??
Can we legally even have a PM who puts the rights of a foreign Nation above the rights of Canadian citizens? What's next, national uniforms?

Did you want to go over his voting record or something, it shows he's been in Canada all the time, I fail to see where that makes him an expert in the inner workings of Iranian voting.

http://howdtheyvote.ca/member.php?id=72

Invite some Jews from Iran to speak on the issue if theirs is the only voice you trust in the world, I see it as being foolish but whatever continue in your fantasy world.
 
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The Americans and Israelis are fairly certain Iran has no nuclear weapon program:

Mossad 'agrees with US' on Iran nuclear goals
Israel's intelligence service Mossad agrees with US assessments there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb, even though Israeli leaders have talked about Tehran's plans to acquire nuclear weapons, The New York Times reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/w...wed-difficulty-of-assessing-nuclear-data.html