Iranian regime ‘frightens me,’ Harper says

[MHz]

I don't feel safe if Harper is scared. I think it only wise that we immediately install batteries and batteries of Russian S-500 systems all along our exposed arctic border. Perhaps start with about 100. Would he then feel comfortable with Iran launching satellites with their new boiling-Diesel rocket that actually holds it propellent underground and only the sat is launched at a rather high rate of speed. The HHO rocket design is on hold as the electricity is a few watts down from the minimum required for the shoot-reload-shoot turnaround that would be required to make the launching platform profitable for the Iranian owners. Boiling fuel is expensive and the most dangerous path to take to launch something that only weighs a few tons. The 100 S-500 systems are to protect us from 'the one that got away' after all this is a new technology ans **** can happen even with old-school technology. Perhaps we can donate a few to Israel is she is also feeling insecure except that system will have the range shortened so they cannot quite reach any part of Iran.

you know, the toothless one.

Some older people may not know which one you mean.

 

[Praxius]

Yes the 5,961,358 allied soldiers killed in WWII is a cop out for using nukes against Japan who refused to surrender.

And it always comes back to this doesn't it?

The reality is that Japan was actually trying to reach a peace deal since 1942, they tried to get the Soviet Union, the British, and the Siamese to reach a peace deal and end the war, but it was the US who demanded "Unconditional Surrender".... knowing the Japanese would not give up Hirohito, their "God Leader", to be hanged. This never happened, but it was always threatened, deliberately forcing the Japanese to desperate acts to protect their "God Leader." So it's no big surprise that they wouldn't accept unconditional surrender..... but let's stop playing games by ignoring that there were other options available to end the war.

The US could have ended the war years before it actually ended if they weren't so g'damn war happy and wanted to see what an Atomic Bomb would do to civilian populations. They could have gone into peace talks and ended the war, thus saving many lives on both sides, but they didn't.

So please, don't give me that crap about the US being such heroes for nuking two civilian populated cities, when options were on the table to end the war three years before it did.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

And it always comes back to this doesn't it?

The reality is that Japan was actually trying to reach a peace deal since 1942, they tried to get the Soviet Union, the British, and the Siamese to reach a peace deal and end the war, but it was the US who demanded "Unconditional Surrender".... knowing the Japanese would not give up Hirohito, their "God Leader", to be hanged. This never happened, but it was always threatened, deliberately forcing the Japanese to desperate acts to protect their "God Leader." So it's no big surprise that they wouldn't accept unconditional surrender..... but let's stop playing games by ignoring that there were other options available to end the war.

The US could have ended the war years before it actually ended if they weren't so g'damn war happy and wanted to see what an Atomic Bomb would do to civilian populations. They could have gone into peace talks and ended the war, thus saving many lives on both sides, but they didn't.

So please, don't give me that crap about the US being such heroes for nuking two civilian populated cities, when options were on the table to end the war three years before it did.

I'm not giving you anything. The only crap is what you posted above. Good grief.

 

[ironsides]

And it always comes back to this doesn't it?

The reality is that Japan was actually trying to reach a peace deal since 1942, they tried to get the Soviet Union, the British, and the Siamese to reach a peace deal and end the war, but it was the US who demanded "Unconditional Surrender".... knowing the Japanese would not give up Hirohito, their "God Leader", to be hanged. This never happened, but it was always threatened, deliberately forcing the Japanese to desperate acts to protect their "God Leader." So it's no big surprise that they wouldn't accept unconditional surrender..... but let's stop playing games by ignoring that there were other options available to end the war.

The US could have ended the war years before it actually ended if they weren't so g'damn war happy and wanted to see what an Atomic Bomb would do to civilian populations. They could have gone into peace talks and ended the war, thus saving many lives on both sides, but they didn't.

So please, don't give me that crap about the US being such heroes for nuking two civilian populated cities, when options were on the table to end the war three years before it did.

If Japan had agreed to a "Unconditional Surrender" in 1942 there would have been no need to nuke them. After Midway the war was over for them.

 

[In Between Man]

If Iran's leaders murdered Israeli scientists, I'm pretty sure our news and political leaders would have little trouble identifying these crimes as acts of terrorism...

Since there is no reason to assassinate Israeli scientists, such an act would be rightly called an act of terrorism by our news and political leaders. Israel however has a reason, she has a PREVENTATIVE goal of stopping a nuclear threat from a totalitarian state where Islamic fervor against Israel's very existence is applauded.

A sworn enemy who doesn't recognize your right to exist + nuclear weapons = something bad

It's unfortunate that Alireza Roshan has lost his father, but his father's blood is on the hands of the Iranian government because despite sanctions, diplomatic pleas, and previous assassinations of scientists, Iran continues its nuclear program at all costs. They're willing to risk the lives of their scientists to further their hidden agenda.

 

[Liberalman]

Prime Minister Harper has opened the Pandora’s box where committing Canadian military combat troops for world conflicts is a given.

Now Harper is spending billions on Canada’s new war machine and he is paying for it in reduced healthcare transfer payments to the provinces and stealing pension money from the government workers.

Harper knows that our Canadian military will soon be in the killing fields in Iran and more bodies will be making their final trip down the Highway Of Heroes.

The Liberals are remembered for envelopes of money and the Conservatives unfortunately will be remembered for boxes of bodies landing in an airfield in CFB Trenton

 

[TenPenny]

Anyone with an IQ above 5 should be frightened by Pakistan, but I wasn't aware that was the topic here.

I agree with Praxius that he presents a failed argument, why he does so, I don't know.

 

[wulfie68]

And it always comes back to this doesn't it?

The reality is that Japan was actually trying to reach a peace deal since 1942, they tried to get the Soviet Union, the British, and the Siamese to reach a peace deal and end the war, but it was the US who demanded "Unconditional Surrender".... knowing the Japanese would not give up Hirohito, their "God Leader", to be hanged. This never happened, but it was always threatened, deliberately forcing the Japanese to desperate acts to protect their "God Leader." So it's no big surprise that they wouldn't accept unconditional surrender..... but let's stop playing games by ignoring that there were other options available to end the war.

The US could have ended the war years before it actually ended if they weren't so g'damn war happy and wanted to see what an Atomic Bomb would do to civilian populations. They could have gone into peace talks and ended the war, thus saving many lives on both sides, but they didn't.

So please, don't give me that crap about the US being such heroes for nuking two civilian populated cities, when options were on the table to end the war three years before it did.

You need to put down the bong and read a history book or three. In 1942 Japan was still on the offensive and occupying huge tracts of other nations. Peace may have been possible on their terms - let them keep what they had stolen and get away with the attrocities they committed, but that was not an option to the Allies. Even when they had been driven out of most of their occupied territories, there was still no willingness to accept any of the onus for what they had instigated.

 

[pgs]

Prime Minister Harper has opened the Pandora’s box where committing Canadian military combat troops for world conflicts is a given.

Now Harper is spending billions on Canada’s new war machine and he is paying for it in reduced healthcare transfer payments to the provinces and stealing pension money from the government workers.

Harper knows that our Canadian military will soon be in the killing fields in Iran and more bodies will be making their final trip down the Highway Of Heroes.

The Liberals are remembered for envelopes of money and the Conservatives unfortunately will be remembered for boxes of bodies landing in an airfield in CFB Trenton

So what do you think of the Canadian leadership who allowed our men to be used as cannon fodder on the beaches of Dieppe?
Sent on a suicide mission with no resupply or reinforcements.

 

[MHz]

Anyone with an IQ above 5 should be frightened by Pakistan, but I wasn't aware that was the topic here.

I agree with Praxius that he presents a failed argument, why he does so, I don't know.

Should anyone be afraid of the ones that created Pakistan so that she and India would always have a zone that was an area of conflict that would be just strong enough that they could never become as cooperative as the US/Canada relationship? With the new imagined rift between Palistan and the West it would the follow the the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' aspect would kick in and the West would then become more friendly with India, which they have right down to cancelling any/all inspections of nuclear facilities by the same organization that can't do as many as they want when it comes to Iran. (if they want my respect at least be consistent).

It may not be in the top 5 headlines all the time but anything to do with the area since 1900 has to be looked at as having an influence on the way things are going today. If Britain set the borders with the foresight of that being a conflict zone that would last 100's of years where it kept tensions high and a false-flag operation could be the match that lit the fuze that ignited a war that would ruin both of them in terms of being a progressive society that got along with it's neighbors and the need for lots of money for the military is not needed so that same amount of money is spent on other things.

Anybody with an IQ above 100 should know who to be afraid of, yet if they are they are quite good at keeping the news hidden, which is alright, bullies usually end up tripping on their own shoelaces rather than becoming the victim of someone tougher.

 

[Liberalman]

So what do you think of the Canadian leadership who allowed our men to be used as cannon fodder on the beaches of Dieppe?
Sent on a suicide mission with no resupply or reinforcements.
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So what do you think of our Canadian leadership who stood with the UN and not go in with the Americans and the Brits when they invaded Iraq to destroy the non-existent weapons of mass destruction?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Prime Minister Harper has opened the Pandora’s box where committing Canadian military combat troops for world conflicts is a given.

What planet are you from? It was your beloved Jean Chretien who committed our troops to Afghanistan.

Now Harper is spending billions on Canada’s new war machine and he is paying for it in reduced healthcare transfer payments to the provinces and stealing pension money from the government workers.

Harper knows that our Canadian military will soon be in the killing fields in Iran and more bodies will be making their final trip down the Highway Of Heroes.

[Wipes tears of laughter from eyes]:lol:

Yes, that is why he is now cutting funding to the military. However body bags are being stockpiled for this very thing.:lol:

The Liberals are remembered for envelopes of money and the Conservatives unfortunately will be remembered for boxes of bodies landing in an airfield in CFB Trenton

The liberals are remembered for lining their own pockets while increasing our military commitment and simultaneously cutting military budgets to the bone. The Liberals will be remembered for stonewalling and cutting much needed benefits to injured vets. I could go on, but there is no need. The very reason the Liberal party is in the shape it is today is outlined by the shrillness of your post. The Liberals are full of crap and their only mantra is to spread lies and fearmonger because when you get right down to it -- they're out of ideas.

 

[TenPenny]

A sworn enemy who doesn't recognize your right to exist + nuclear weapons = something bad

I think you've just identified why many Arabs don't like Israel.

Anybody with an IQ above 100 should know who to be afraid of, yet

I agree, and that explains your difficulty.

 

[ironsides]

I think you've just identified why many Israelis don't like Arabs. (reworded your quote a little) Under those conditions, Israel cannot afford to allow any Arab country against their right to exist to have a nuclear bomb. The fact that Israel has had them for over 20 years and has not used one is proof that they are a responsible government.

 

[Cliffy]

I think you've just identified why many Israelis don't like Arabs. (reworded your quote a little) Under those conditions, Israel cannot afford to allow any Arab country against their right to exist to have a nuclear bomb. The fact that Israel has had them for over 20 years and has not used one is proof that they are a responsible government.

They really haven't had a reason to use a nuke either.

But I hear you saying that the US government is irresponsible, then.

 

[MHz]

I agree, and that explains your difficulty.

Are you saying Britain didn't include the border drawing to be a thorn in the side of both India and Pakistan?

100 isn't all that high when you consider you need a score of 51 just to not routinely bump into things.

 

[pgs]

So what do you think of our Canadian leadership who stood with the UN and not go in with the Americans and the Brits when they invaded Iraq to destroy the non-existent weapons of mass destruction?

I think no Canadian lives were lost.

I think no Canadian lives were lost.

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But you did not answer my question.

 

[MHz]

The fact that Israel has had them for over 20 years and has not used one is proof that they are a responsible government.

They have been lying about that for 20 years and they broke every rule there is and they want to punish a nation that is (and always has been) following the rules. How many times has Iran been up on charges before the UN compared to Israel? (yet the one with the ,most violations is the sanest?? liar)

Are you sure it was just 20 years? Perhaps they even had a few in '67 as a backup plan had the 'strike-first and then call a truce before they can strike back' ploy didn't work.

 

[ironsides]

They really haven't had a reason to use a nuke either.

But I hear you saying that the US government is irresponsible, then.
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For what dropping two bombs on Japan? That was totally justified, or could we have just invaded or waited them out? The Japanese army generals (who ran the country) were opposed to surrender and would have had the population armed to help repulse an invasion. It took the dropping of the bombs to get the moderates and some navel officers to approach the Emperor and get his permission to surrender. It was the Emperor who for the fist time in his life asked/told the people that the war was over. The two bombs and their after effects were horrible, but still saved more lives than they took, and were never dropped in anger again. No buts about it, it worked for the past 60+ years.

They have been lying about that for 20 years and they broke every rule there is and they want to punish a nation that is (and always has been) following the rules. How many times has Iran been up on charges before the UN compared to Israel? (yet the one with the ,most violations is the sanest?? liar)

Are you sure it was just 20 years? Perhaps they even had a few in '67 as a backup plan had the 'strike-first and then call a truce before they can strike back' ploy didn't work.
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France gave the plans to them back in the mi 50's.

 

[darkbeaver]

Mr Harper is committed first to Israel second to the gaseous international community (Israel) and third to some freak god most of us wouldn't recognize. Canada is very much a temporary thing to him and his kind, he worships the big Holy end game (armageddon) which of course the ignorant boot licking toad does not understand. He is ignorance itself and should be feared in Canada above all else.
I will be doing everything I can to see this lump of pious snot spend his remaining life in prison for treason against the people of Canada. Of course the Iranians frighten him that's what light dos do scum.