Iran outside and inside

jimmoyer

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Nobody loves me, everybody hates me
Guess I'll eat some worms
Long slim slimy ones, short fat juicy ones
Itsy bitsy fuzzy wuzzy worms

First you cut the heads off, then you suck the guts out
Oh, how they wiggle and squirm
Long slim slimy ones, short fat juicy ones
Itsy bitsy fuzzy wuzzy worms

Wiggle goes the first one, goosh goes the second one,
Sure don't wanna eat these worms
Long slim slimy ones, short fat juicy ones
Itsy bitsy fuzzy wuzzy worms

Down goes the first one, down goes the second one,
Sure hate the taste of worms
Long slim slimy ones, short fat juicy ones
Itsy bitsy fuzzy wuzzy worms

Nobody hates me, everybody likes me,
Never shoulda eaten those worms
Long slim slimy ones, short fat juicy ones
Itsy bitsy fuzzy wuzzy worms

Up comes the first one, up comes the second one,
Oh, how they wiggle and squirm
Long slim slimy ones, short fat juicy ones
Itsy bitsy fuzzy wuzzy worms
 

darkbeaver

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Worms are a good source of chicken building stuff. Stuff vital to human life. We could eat the worms and get a better return on our investment but cultural bias and chicken farmers have conspired to trick us into eating chicken and thusly begun the climb to the apex of civilization itself. What kind of earthworms are indiginous to Iran? Do Iranians consumme more or less poultry than Canadians and if so what breeds?
 

Just the Facts

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In the late 1990s under a leftist administration in Iran we routinely held protests in the streets against the regime. There was hope for a regime overthrow. But then the tensions began and naturally people started to rally around the flag.

Plus, there was that crackdown against the protestors. That didn't help either.

Change only comes in times of peace, and in times of tension like right now we all have to shut up. I may hate my brother but if some stranger came in our house I'd help defend myself and my brother.

That's the mindset right now.

And if you don't shut up, they'll help you. :-(

  • Over 100 independent media outlets have been closed since the passage of the 1995 Press Law that established a supervisory board and court with authority to impose various penalties, including closure and suspension of operating privileges. Nearly 10,000 web sites have been blocked from inside the country, many of them with political content, such as the Amir Kabir University News website, according to Reporters without Borders.
  • Web blogger Mojtaba Saminejad has been in custody since February 12, 2005, sentenced to two years in prison for "insulting the Supreme Guide" and reporting on the arrest of three fellow bloggers. His appeal has so far been denied and he is leading a hunger strike from his cell in Gohar Dashat prison outside Tehran.
  • Another web blogger, Mohamad Reza Nasab Abdolahi, was reportedly released in late August 2005 after serving over 6 months in prison. He is a student human rights and democracy advocate and editor of the student paper Noghteh Sare Khat. He was accused of posting an open letter to the country’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, on his blog and of working for foreign radio stations.
  • According to Human Rights Watch, since September 2004, more than 20 Internet journalists and civil society activists have been arrested and held in a secret detention center in Tehran.
  • On April 25, 2005, Tehran police arrested Yusuf Azizi Banitaraf, author of 20 books on ethnic minorities in Iran, during a press conference held by the nongovernmental Center for the Defense of Human Rights. Banitaraf was criticizing the government’s brutal crackdown on protests by ethnic Iranian-Arabs in Khuzistan’s capital, Ahwaz, where, according to human rights activists, at least 50 people were killed by the government’s security forces.
  • Two reformist newspapers, Eqbal and Aftab-e Yazd, were closed in June 2005 on the eve of their publication of an incendiary letter by Hojjatoleslam Mehdi Karroubi, former speaker of the parliament and candidate in the 2005 presidential election. Karroubi criticized the Supreme Leader and alleged massive interference in the first round of voting.
  • In February 2004, prior to the parliamentary elections, the newspapers Sharq and Yas-e No were shut for publishing extracts from a letter by reformist parliamentarians to the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic, Ali Khamenei. The letter blamed Khamenei for the electoral "coup d’état" and the current political crisis. In July, Jumhuriyat, a morning newspaper started by reformist and human rights activist Emadeddin Baqi, was closed after publishing only one issue.
  • In January 2004, journalist Ensafali Hedayat was arrested when he returned from a conference in Germany organized by a group advocating a democratic and secular state. He faces charges relating to national security, as well as defamation charges for an article he wrote on a website. While attempting to appeal his sentence during a prison leave in early December 2004, Hedayat was returned to prison and his application to extend his leave from prison was denied, due to "political activities" while on leave.
  • Zahra Kazemi, a Canadian-Iranian photo-journalist, was murdered in July 2003 while in government custody (see Voices Extinguished).
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/56548.htm
 

dancing-loon

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I deeply fear a US attack on my country because it would set back reforms 20 years. The best case scenario is that nothing happens from now until next June, and then certainly Ahmadinejad won't be re-elected. If an attack does occur however Ahmadinejads far right government will be re-elected and it will be downhill from there.
Hi, Tim;
don't fear - Ahmadinejad is here!;-) Read this....

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has played down the threat of an armed conflict between his country and the United States or Israel.
"I assure you... there won't be any war in the future," he said in Malaysia.

Ahmadinejad said the US people would not allow Bush to strike.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7495869.stm
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I admire his confidence! Israel and the US have tried to scare him silly... yet, he doesn't buckle under.
 

dancing-loon

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Confidence or fanaticism? I think they might be indistinguishable.
Not a fanatic, I think, just a strong will to survive!!!

Look here....

Iran sends missile test warning

Iran has test-fired nine missiles, including a new version of the Shahab-3, capable of reaching its main regional enemy Israel.8O

The Shahab-3, with a range of 2,000km (1,240 miles), was armed with a conventional warhead, state media said.
Iran has tested the missile before, but the latest launch comes amid rising tensions with the US and Israel over the country's nuclear programme.

The early morning launch at a remote desert site sent oil prices climbing.(any reason will do!)

White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe called on Iran to "refrain from further missile tests if they truly seek to gain the trust of the world".(wags finger!!:x.... haha..)

Brig Gen Hoseyn Salami, commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards' air force, said: "Our missiles are ready for shooting at any place and any time, quickly and with accuracy.
"The enemy must not repeat its mistakes. The enemy targets are under surveillance."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7496765.stm
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I can see Israel shaking in its boots!! They will need big brother for sure now.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Hi, Tim;
don't fear - Ahmadinejad is here!;-) Read this....

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has played down the threat of an armed conflict between his country and the United States or Israel.
"I assure you... there won't be any war in the future," he said in Malaysia.

Ahmadinejad said the US people would not allow Bush to strike.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7495869.stm
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I admire his confidence! Israel and the US have tried to scare him silly... yet, he doesn't buckle under.

Trusting that scum bug Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is like playing Russian roulette.
The world would be a better place with out him around.
 

Socrates the Greek

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I didn't vote for the guy, and I'll do everything I can to make sure he's not reelected in June, but he's not the evil monster he's being made out to be by some in the West.


The Iranian people deserve to be under no threat from any country on the globe. The Iranian people need to rise and completely remove the extreme right from power in order for freedom of speech freedom of expression to take place so all Iranian citizens can live peacefully. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will hurt Iran if he attacks Israel.

 

TehranTim

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The Iranian people deserve to be under no threat from any country on the globe. The Iranian people need to rise and completely remove the extreme right from power in order for freedom of speech freedom of expression to take place so all Iranian citizens can live peacefully. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will hurt Iran if he attacks Israel.
First of all, he's not gonna attack Israel or anywhere else unless Iran's attacked first.

Second, I absolutely agree with your sentiments about this regime. Look, all through the 1990s we protested openly for reform and in many cases against this regime, I have the pictures to show you. But our efforts have been suffocated in the past few years because of all the threats against our country, which has made self-criticism more difficult and has made people rally around the flag. Change only comes in times of peace, and in times of tension like right now people just tend to shut up.
 

Socrates the Greek

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First of all, he's not gonna attack Israel or anywhere else unless Iran's attacked first.

Second, I absolutely agree with your sentiments about this regime. Look, all through the 1990s we protested openly for reform and in many cases against this regime, I have the pictures to show you. But our efforts have been suffocated in the past few years because of all the threats against our country, which has made self-criticism more difficult and has made people rally around the flag. Change only comes in times of peace, and in times of tension like right now people just tend to shut up.

It is shameful in our human world that to buy bread we need money and in human history to buy peace we need to pay with blood. That sucks my good friend.:roll::x
 

Risus

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First of all, he's not gonna attack Israel or anywhere else unless Iran's attacked first.

Second, I absolutely agree with your sentiments about this regime. Look, all through the 1990s we protested openly for reform and in many cases against this regime, I have the pictures to show you. But our efforts have been suffocated in the past few years because of all the threats against our country, which has made self-criticism more difficult and has made people rally around the flag. Change only comes in times of peace, and in times of tension like right now people just tend to shut up.

The idiot has to learn to shut up. If he carries on ranting the vile garbage he is, I wouldn't blame Israel to take him out...
 

TehranTim

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The idiot has to learn to shut up. If he carries on ranting the vile garbage he is, I wouldn't blame Israel to take him out...
The Israelis won't do anything, they're just trying to goad the Americans to fight their war for them. And I don't think Ahmadinejad's said anything particularly outrageous. Most of the comments like the "wipe off the map" deal that are so often repeated in the US are mistranslations and have been proven to be so by Western sources.
 

Risus

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The Israelis won't do anything, they're just trying to goad the Americans to fight their war for them. And I don't think Ahmadinejad's said anything particularly outrageous. Most of the comments like the "wipe off the map" deal that are so often repeated in the US are mistranslations and have been proven to be so by Western sources.

I disagree, the yanks don't want another unwanted, unjustified war. As far as your translation comment goes, they were not only from the yanks but other sources as well, so I disagree with that comment, too.
 

TehranTim

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I disagree, the yanks don't want another unwanted, unjustified war.
It's not up to them. The Israelis, their fellow tribesman (the neoconservatives), and the Israeli lobby are all pushing for a war against Iran that would only be in Israel's interests. There's no sufficient justification for an attack on Iran if you're the United States. Not unless you say you're willing to go to war to defend the interests of Israel.
 

Socrates the Greek

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The Israelis won't do anything, they're just trying to goad the Americans to fight their war for them. And I don't think Ahmadinejad's said anything particularly outrageous. Most of the comments like the "wipe off the map" deal that are so often repeated in the US are mistranslations and have been proven to be so by Western sources.


Tehran Tim, there is absolutely no reason for you to tell us that you will do anything to see that Ahmadinejand doesn’t get voted back in, and on the other hand you sit here defending a despicable scum bag like him. I personally like to play cards with one deck of cards only, if you catch my drift. Unfortunately a hand full of losers like him has made the world leery in trusting such idiotic leadership like the extreme dark right of Iran.
 

Risus

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It's not up to them. The Israelis, their fellow tribesman (the neoconservatives), and the Israeli lobby are all pushing for a war against Iran that would only be in Israel's interests. There's no sufficient justification for an attack on Iran if you're the United States. Not unless you say you're willing to go to war to defend the interests of Israel.

LOL, what an idiotic statement. If its the yank's troops, equipment, money, etc etc, I would say yes, its up to the yanks....
 
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