Iran nuclear program deal reached with world powers during diplomatic talks in Geneva

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Karzai condemns US strike that killed toddler, threatens not to sign security deal


President Hamid Karzai has blamed the US for a drone strike on a home in southern Afghanistan that killed a 2-year-old child and wounded two women, vowing that he will not sign a key bilateral security deal if such attacks continue.
“This attack shows that American forces are not respecting the life and safety of Afghan people’s houses,” Karzai said in the statement Thursday. “For years, our innocent people have become victims of the war under the name of terrorism, and they have had no safety in their homes.”
Karzai made it clear that he will not sign the security agreement if such “oppressions by foreign forces continue.”
The president stated that the airstrike was suspected to have been carried out by US “pilotless aircraft” and targeted a house in Helmand Province. Karzai added that he received his information from the governor of the province, Mohammad Naem.
 

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Explaining that their “singular object” was to “ensure that Iran does not acquire a nuclear weapon,” John Kerry said that “Foreign Minister Zarif emphasized that they don’t intend to do this, and the Supreme Leader has indicated there is a fatwa which forbids them to do this.” “The Supreme Leader” is not Barack Obama but Ayatollah Khamenei. Why is America’s secretary of state dignifying Khamenei as “the Supreme Leader”? In his own famous remarks upon his return from Munich, Neville Chamberlain referred only to “Herr Hitler.” “Der Führer” means, in effect, “the Supreme Leader,” but, unlike Kerry (and Obama), Chamberlain understood that it would be unseemly for the representative of a free people to confer respectability on such a designation. As for the Führer de nos jours, Ayatollah Khamenei called Israel a “rabid dog” and dismissed “the leaders of the Zionist regime, who look like beasts and cannot be called human.” If “the Supreme Leader”’s words are to be taken at face value when it comes to these supposed constraints preventing Iran from going nuclear, why not also when he calls Jews sub-human?


Surrender in Geneva | National Review Online

Meanwhile, through the many months they kept their allies in the dark, Washington was very obliging to the mullahs. According to the Times of Israel, among the Iranian prisoners quietly released by the U.S. as a friendly pre-deal gesture is Mojtada Atarodi, arrested in 2011 for attempting to acquire nuclear materials. Iran has felt under no pressure to reciprocate. America is containing itself, in hopes of a quiet life.
Did you all GET that??? The United States released Iranian captives.....while not even asking about Americans held by Tehran.

Obama is not only an idiotic incompetent, he is scum of the worst order, perhaps the worst President ever.
 
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Explaining that their “singular object” was to “ensure that Iran does not acquire a nuclear weapon,” John Kerry said that “Foreign Minister Zarif emphasized that they don’t intend to do this, and the Supreme Leader has indicated there is a fatwa which forbids them to do this.” “The Supreme Leader” is not Barack Obama but Ayatollah Khamenei. Why is America’s secretary of state dignifying Khamenei as “the Supreme Leader”? In his own famous remarks upon his return from Munich, Neville Chamberlain referred only to “Herr Hitler.” “Der Führer” means, in effect, “the Supreme Leader,” but, unlike Kerry (and Obama), Chamberlain understood that it would be unseemly for the representative of a free people to confer respectability on such a designation. As for the Führer de nos jours, Ayatollah Khamenei called Israel a “rabid dog” and dismissed “the leaders of the Zionist regime, who look like beasts and cannot be called human.” If “the Supreme Leader”’s words are to be taken at face value when it comes to these supposed constraints preventing Iran from going nuclear, why not also when he calls Jews sub-human?


Surrender in Geneva | National Review Online


Did you all GET that??? The United States released Iranian captives.....while not even asking about Americans held by Tehran.

Obama is not only an idiotic incompetent, he is scum of the worst order, perhaps the worst President ever.

The deal is not finalized- And if both the House & Senate do not like it- then it goes no where.
 

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Did you all GET that??? The United States released Iranian captives.....while not even asking about Americans held by Tehran.

Obama is not only an idiotic incompetent, he is scum of the worst order, perhaps the worst President ever.
Why does the US even have any as they would have been captured in foreign lands, kidnapped as it were. The Yanks in Iranian jails were arrested on Iranian soil, prove they were there with only goo intentions on their mind, you can't.
 

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Why does the US even have any as they would have been captured in foreign lands, kidnapped as it were. The Yanks in Iranian jails were arrested on Iranian soil, prove they were there with only goo intentions on their mind, you can't.
Much the same as that 85 year old Vet in N Korea. Iran is following an agenda. Same as NK.
 

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NK is credited with sinking a ship right in the middle of a big war game the US was throwing. What happened after that, nothing. Same reason Iran was attacked using Saddam as a proxy warrior, neither the US nor Israel could last more that the opening volley and they both know it so it is a war of words and not many are left in that camp in case you haven't noticed.
 

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NK is credited with sinking a ship right in the middle of a big war game the US was throwing. What happened after that, nothing. Same reason Iran was attacked using Saddam as a proxy warrior, neither the US nor Israel could last more that the opening volley and they both know it so it is a war of words and not many are left in that camp in case you haven't noticed.
Iraq was a huge ffn mistake. Same as staying in Afghanistan was a huge ffn mistake.
 

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Now conclude that intervention in Iran from 1953 to 1979 was also a mistake of the same magnitude. You certainly wouldn't want to experience that form of Government here would you?
 

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Now conclude that intervention in Iran from 1953 to 1979 was also a mistake of the same magnitude. You certainly wouldn't want to experience that form of Government here would you?

We can go back decades to the Brits in WW1 if you wish. The Mullahs own everything and want to survive.
 

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Why does the US even have any as they would have been captured in foreign lands, kidnapped as it were. The Yanks in Iranian jails were arrested on Iranian soil, prove they were there with only goo intentions on their mind, you can't.

Ahhh the concepts of both freedom of religion and innocence until guilt is proven both elude you, don't they??
 

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Ahhh the concepts of both freedom of religion and innocence until guilt is proven both elude you, don't they??

These people when you come down to it are the norm. Imagine what citizens endure. But they are not relevant nor will the hinder or influence a final deal.
Again it is the final deal that is made.
 

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NK is credited with sinking a ship right in the middle of a big war game the US was throwing. What happened after that, nothing. Same reason Iran was attacked using Saddam as a proxy warrior, neither the US nor Israel could last more that the opening volley and they both know it so it is a war of words and not many are left in that camp in case you haven't noticed.

Your ignorance is simply amazing......the first Gulf War left the world agape at the extent and efficientcy of America's conventional warfare abilities. The Second Gulf War simply pressed the point home.

They get no respect now because they are saddled with a retarded child as CiC, and he is unable to wield that awesome power, due to his absolute incompetence.
 

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Your ignorance is simply amazing......the first Gulf War left the world agape at the extent and efficientcy of America's conventional warfare abilities. The Second Gulf War simply pressed the point home.

They get no respect now because they are saddled with a retarded child as CiC, and he is unable to wield that awesome power, due to his absolute incompetence.

the 2nd should not have happened. Same as staying in Afghanistan- Once OBL was confirmed as left the country- the US and all others should have pulled out.
Not have a President, Karzai approved by the Iranians installed.
 

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Iraq was a huge ffn mistake. Same as staying in Afghanistan was a huge ffn mistake.

Mistake? Not for the contractors it warn,t.

the 2nd should not have happened. Same as staying in Afghanistan- Once OBL was confirmed as left the country- the US and all others should have pulled out.
Not have a President, Karzai approved by the Iranians installed.

It was all a giant lie. There is no boogieman
 

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The wars weren't mistakes they were economic actions vital to western insecurity which has to be maintained at high levels to make lots of employment making blood trickle down.
 

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Your ignorance is simply amazing......the first Gulf War left the world agape at the extent and efficientcy of America's conventional warfare abilities. The Second Gulf War simply pressed the point home.

They get no respect now because they are saddled with a retarded child as CiC, and he is unable to wield that awesome power, due to his absolute incompetence.
US and NATO can do nothing about it except print propaganda for local consumption, our public is stupid as it is, and it will get worse, good maybe when it is fully broken some needed changes will then be made.

the 2nd should not have happened. Same as staying in Afghanistan- Once OBL was confirmed as left the country- the US and all others should have pulled out.
Not have a President, Karzai approved by the Iranians installed.
Karzai was with big oil that is why he was instarlled by the US, it looks like he got sick of seeing innocent people killed, much the same as you would if a school in your neighborhood was droned a few times.
You don't get it, there never was any intention to ever pull out, if they leave in the future it was because they got kicked out.

Your ignorance is simply amazing......the first Gulf War left the world agape at the extent and efficientcy of America's conventional warfare abilities. The Second Gulf War simply pressed the point home.

They get no respect now because they are saddled with a retarded child as CiC, and he is unable to wield that awesome power, due to his absolute incompetence.
Aircraft against armor, why do you act like it was a superhuman achievement? Kuwait is still sucking oil by the slant drilled wells that Saddam complained about so there was nothing noble about either action or the million children and elderly that died via US sanctions between the two turkey shoots. There is nothing noble about any of that unless you have stabbing a former partner in the back as being a honorable thing to support, which you obviously do so spare me you lectures on morality.

Ahhh the concepts of both freedom of religion and innocence until guilt is proven both elude you, don't they??
You have neither so what would you know about it, you get spoon fed you current news and not one bit of your opinion is independent thought. It appears the robots have already landed,

We can go back decades to the Brits in WW1 if you wish. The Mullahs own everything and want to survive.
Lets go back to the way BD set up the border between India and Pakastan, intentionally just to create tension in the area. It's becoming quite clear to the world just how black the heats is of the 'West', no wonder we are in quick decline. Harper pushing us downhill even faster than the tumble still has Canadians sitting with zipped lips, good I hope we pay many fold for falling asleep at the wheel.