I don't understand all this talk of changing party loyalties over this mess. Whatever on earth for? I can honestly not see where one party or one leader has conducted themselves with any more or less integrity towards the citizens of Canada throughout this.
I imagine they're not looking all that great to the public's eye, but considering the situation at hand, if it was going to be an easy solution, this wouldn't be such an issue.
I do think Harper started this round of hostilities with a pretty blatant shot that still shocks me with it's audacity. BUT, I don't like what the 3 opposition leaders are up to either. No doubt Harper needed to be tuned in - stopped even - but the motivations at play here from the Coalition are the wrong ones.
Well if there was another option available, I imagine it would have been taken. But almost all the time in the past, the leading party and PM is supposed to work with the rest of the government, esspecially in a minority, and when they don't work with the rest of them and make it into some kind of game for his own personal agendas, something needs to be done, and to me, this is the most logical course of action.
They're fighting AGAINST Harper, not FOR Canada - and Harper, well, he's just fighting for Harper as far as I can see.
Which is exactly the point.
Everyday that the government is actually supposed to work, Harper picks a fight with the other parties, and the other parties have to fight back. Then he calls an election for another fight. He didn't get exactly what he himself wanted, so he picks another fight as soon as the school bells rang.
If it's always going to be about harper, then remove him and get on with the work.
In attempting to blindside the democratic process by pulling the financial rug out from under the very opposition that ensures democracy is served, Harper also tried to yank that rug right out from every single Canadian - adding insult to injury by not even trying to be clever in his attempt to disguise whose agenda he was serving.
100% agree.
His plan to cut their funding was tantamount to handing the other parties an early Christmas present with a card saying "here ya go boyz... the instrument of my demise... use it well" And oh ya...those boyz did just that: the mileage they've wrung out of that bullying blunder, which in turn is providing all kinds of yummy fodder for Harper to spin and spew more BS at us ... yep, the vengeance is thick now... thick and slimy and some really bad kinda nasty.
And with this situation that Harper has created, it's just going to get a whole lot more messier and nastier.
Yes, the other parties are going to get a lot of crap flung their way for what they are doing, but if it was me, I'd rather tarnish my name in the press to do the right thing, then to sit by quietly and allow Harper to keep getting away with his corrupt ways.
He is the true distruction of democracy and the fact that all the other parties are joining together and uniting (Including the Bloc) that should have united the country, which Harper has failed to do year after year.
Instead, Harper attacks the weak chain and go for the seperatist and socialist attacks.
Half of what the government does and is is socialist in the first place, such as Universal health care... what's the problem?
And if the Bloc really wanted to seperate and all that, they wouldn't need to join in with the Coalition, they'd just let Harper do what he wants and destroy our democracy. They'd have no problem then.
All of the parties joined together because they all oppose Harper and his selfish arrogance. This Coalition is being created for the interests of Canada.
It's not all about attacking Harper and that's it..... if they win, and the Coalition takes place, Harper is history.... what then?
Get to Work, that's what. And Finally I might add. Sounds like a good idea.
And if the Coalition goes to crap, then we have an election again..... people are making too much of a big deal out of this, all because Harper is making a big deal out of this.
And I might hold a bit of credibility for Harper if he simply would stop lying to the public.
If he lies, there is no trust, there is no confidence..... and he flat out lied in his public address last night on a number of occasions.
That as Prime Minister is wrong, and for his own attempt to disable our Democracy and our Country by pitting us all against one another, he should be tried for Treason.
The whole lot of them piss me off. I suspect, and I hope that what I'm reading over the last few days from normally rational people as they react and respond is due in large part to also being right choked at what this band of buffoons is trying to pull off here.
And I agree on all of that as well.... they all suck, but Harper is the worst one of the bunch, he can not be trusted and he needs to be removed before he screws everything up. (And it would seem he's very close)
I think we're so flabberghasted by this unholy mess we're standing here with our jaws agape - dumbfounded with disbelief and PISSED OFF. We've only JUST came out of 6 weeks of fugly campaigning tactics (including that insufferable blue sweater gakkk!) .... only to be bitch slapped with THIS now?
Once again, 100% agree.... nobody wants to go through another election so soon after the last.... that's just a joke. And Harper knows that if he got another election now, he wouldn't need his budget to be passed that would cripple the other parties, they'd already be crippled by back to back elections.
And that's how he plans on killing our democracy.
A - He Kills it by calling another election so soon and 90% of the options for Canadians die off.
B - He Kills it by passing the budget and hince 90% of the options for Canadians die off.
or
C - He fights this coalition to the bitter end, pitting the nation against itself, destroying the country and whatever unity was left. Then there is no more Democracy.... there is no more Canada.
If he keeps pushing that Bloc Quebec button and making fellow Canadian Citizens living in Quebec seem like the enemies and thus, spreading to the rest of the east.... they will seperate.... and so would the Maritimes shortly afterwards.... either by choice or by necessity.
If Harper can not hang onto his Power, he will try everything in his power that he has to take the rest of the country down with him.
We need to figure out how we can force the parties to produce some leadership, accountability, and some policies we can get behind rather than succumbing to this helpless 'over a barrel' feeling of having to try and figure out which evil is the lesser - 'cause none of 'em are lesser! So don't bother switching teams just yet - the uniforms may be different but the play book sure isn't.
And the funny thing is that the playbook hasn't even arrived yet and people are complaining about it. And the greater majority of those I see opposed, including elsewhere other then these forums, they are ignorant to how the procress actually works.
Too bad we don't have a "Loss of Confidence in the Whole Damn Parliament" clause in our constitution, cause now would be a good time to purge the freaks and start over.
Once again, I agree.
There's always Revolution if you want to keep the country intact.
Or if you're just concerned about your own area of the map, seperate.
