Yet you were ok with the Conservatives being propped up by the Separtists?
CTV.ca | Bloc reveals intention to prop up Harper minority
If you were the Governor General, what would you do?
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Yet you were ok with the Conservatives being propped up by the Separtists?
CTV.ca | Bloc reveals intention to prop up Harper minority
But it never happened. Everyone has a nuclear plan. Everyone talks 'what if'. Talking and doing are two different things.
Hypocracy sure is think around here these days isn't it?
Oh but then again, the Conservatives never went all the way through with the plan, so it's ok then..... :roll: even though under similar reasons (but poorer reasons) they were a hair shy from actually doing it.
If it was such an evil and "Un-Patriotic" approach to work with the Bloc (A part of our government which represents a good chunk of the Canadian population in one area) why did they even fathom the idea in the first place?
The Conservatives were making deals with both the NDP and the Bloc..... and it was ok then.... now the NDP, the Bloc are doing the same thing with the Liberals, and all of a sudden it's bloody murder?
Some people need to get off their high horses and get a reality check.
And yes, I am fully aware of the Wests' frustration in regards to being screwed around by Central Canada from the oil and such years back...... it is completely understandable.
But did it ever occur to anybody in the west that almost the very same thing is being done to us over in the East now? And you guys wonder why we're all pissy?
All of the development, funding and everything else that goes with it should be distributed equally accross the country so everybody can make a decent living. When you have unfair balances between the provinces like right now or back when Central was restricting pretty much everything you guys in the West did and taking your money at the same time...... you're going to have divides because both sides feel they are either being screwed over.... or about to be screwed over again.
And nobody wants to be in that position.
But Harper has no give and no compassion for the nation as a whole.... his only interests are for himself and to gain more and more seats, thus more power.
He's not thinking about the best interests of the nation and us, because he's so fixated on trying to win a majority so he can do what he wants with ease.... he's completely forgotten that there's a country he has to work for.
If you got a bunch of stab wounds on your body, you can try and do all the patching and stiching to the easiest wounds, but if you keep leaving the worse wounds until you're good and ready, you're going to bleed out.
Same thing here..... if he only focuses on one or two areas of the country and just simply leaves every other province to suffer and go completely to the bucket.... then that is going to create an even worse situation then what is going on now, rather then trying to collectively bring up each community accross the country in a balanced way.
There is no unity when half or more of the country feels they are being selected out as being the bad guys by our Prime Minister. And there is no unity when isolationalist tactics are created within a country to keep power, when democratically, it is no longer his if the GG wishes it so.
Scratch....you have a point here. The Bloc simply opened the door. If you want to
fight that fire, you have to start your own fire. Why didn't someone start an
Ontario Bloc? Someone has to step up to the plate.
Well scratch, we know from his 2004 letter to the GG that he had intentions to form a coalition with the NDP and Bloc to oust the Liberals if they lost the confidence vote...that is a matter of public record...
Why should the prospect of the Bloc propping up the Cons surprise any of us now...
...and why should we give a damn if Mr. Harper is pleading with Canada to let him keep his job...
He's getting exactly what he deserves, and it's too bad we had to put up with 2 years of his bull**** before it happened...
It is unfortunate it's happened this way certainly, but I don't think it really would have happened any other way either...
My opinion is that he's a hypocrite leader of an ethically bereft party that no longer has the right to govern...however, I don't feel much different about the Liberals, so I'm in a bit of a quandry...
I think though that our best chance of getting some work out of this Parliament is to allow the coalition to proceed...
If we're forced into yet another election, then we're back to square one, and whether it's a conservative or liberal minority government, we'll still be dealing with the threat of an NDP/Bloc backed coalition ready to take over...
What would the Gov. General do?
Well here's what one former Gov. General would suggest:
Former governor general Edward Schreyer speaks to CTV's Canada AM from Winnipeg on Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2008.
Don't let Harper 'duck a confidence vote:' former GG
CTV.ca | Don't let Harper 'duck a confidence vote:' former GG
There you have it from one former GG.
Well here's what one former Gov. General would suggest:
Former governor general Edward Schreyer speaks to CTV's Canada AM from Winnipeg on Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2008.
Don't let Harper 'duck a confidence vote:' former GG
CTV.ca | Don't let Harper 'duck a confidence vote:' former GG
There you have it from one former GG.
As much as I know how some here love Unions:
Governor General Michaelle Jean arrives in Ottawa, Wednesday Dec. 3, 2008.
GG should allow coalition government: unions
CTV.ca | GG should allow coalition government: unions
Governor General Michaelle Jean arrives in Ottawa, Wednesday Dec. 3, 2008.
GG should allow coalition government: unions
CTV.ca | GG should allow coalition government: unions
Observation: After listening to arguments on both sides (and on both forums) I conclude that most opinions expressed are those that have been fed to the public by corporate media. I am not hearing a lot of original thought.
This hornet's nest is another controlled media drama designed to divide and conquer, feeding upon party affiliation and regional prejudices. Not too many people are dealing with facts and are emotional to the point of being irrational.
This hornet's nest is another controlled media drama designed to divide and conquer, feeding upon party affiliation and regional prejudices. Not too many people are dealing with facts and are emotional to the point of being irrational.
No, you're right there Zan. And on further thought, a vote for Conservatives wouldn't change a thing coming from me anyway, as they get voted in here no matter what. BUT.... that being said, I'm glad I never voted for any of these freaking morons. My biggest thing is that it angers me immensely that, in a time when we're all being warned to tighten our belts, an attempt to do so and scrap the relatively recent Liberal election fund distribution, is what's set off something that's going to cost our government a LOT of money. No matter how this turns out, it's already been costly to us. That is what has me spitting mad. Harper should have known better, but, the opposition has also shown that they need to learn to react better. I think Colpy's got it right... hang 'em all (figuratively speaking) and start over.
As would I.... I'd like to hear her explain her reasons directly to the people of Canada.
I certainly don't want to be hearing it from the Conservatives or from Harpers mouth because I no longer consider them a valid political party or a valid prime minister.... and he doesn't represent me.
Exactly.
The woman was actually doing a pretty fair job.
Light years ahead of Adrianne Clarkson and her elitist hubby.
Michelle Jean was becoming very popular in Europe and most nations with a large ethnic population.
And now this?
She cannot win.
History dictates that she try to follow the will of the sitting PM.
But lets face it no matter what she does people will howl.
People should cut her some slack.
She didn't cause this nightmare.
Trex
Pretended we are too busy for electoral reform for 141 years?
I mean, the Prime Minister's job description is basically "To be announced"
In 141 years we couldn't upgrade our electoral system from a half assed colonial scheme meant to be temporary in many areas?
I'm sometimes on the fence about our Governor General and her role in our governmental system. 90% of the time she does nothing more than promote Canada around the world, attend a few ceremonies and generally look hawt in the latest fashion. But this time around she has been called to make a very important decision, one that will impact our country forever. Without her, the bozos on the hill would carry on this charade until the first one blinks and it would never be resolved. What worries me most about proroging parliament is the economic problems will be shelved indefinitely until such time Harper sees fit to table his budget or an election is called. We, the citizens, are being held hostage by a broken system and by power hungry politicians in my opinion.
Vanni, here's a guess and it's only a guess. The GG is apointed by the PM. The GG's advisor
is the PM. This might be an overly simple explenation, but I might not be too far off either...