Oh sure they did not have the all consuming bloodbaths. Nevertheless they were men... and they had wars. Just as cruel and sometimes crueler. Gangfights... yup... along with the scalping, mutilating, killing, pillaging, raping, etc.
If God Existed Would You Live Differently?
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Oh sure they did not have the all consuming bloodbaths. Nevertheless they were men... and they had wars. Just as cruel and sometimes crueler. Gangfights... yup... along with the scalping, mutilating, killing, pillaging, raping, etc.
Absolutely. Believe me, I have no illusions about Indians. Torture, ritual sacrifice, cannibalism, every conceivable form of government from the reputation-based anarchy of the Dine to the god-king absolutism of the Triple Alliance.
Just saying that "war" in the Eurasian sense was uncommon, and mostly in the more developed Central America, which had the agriculture and population that makes for war. The raiding and skirmishing of the North American barbarians (which we were, compared to the Central and South American civilisations) just don't fit in with what you think of when you say "war."
Oh, by the way. . . scalping? Learned that little trick from y'all. So, can't say you never gave us nothing.
Nope.... Chances are if my family tree had some bad apples they wouldn't be allowed to seed - ergo no me to do anything I don't do now
He probably means other than the 4B people on the planet that say they believe in God plus some of the ones not in that list. Hypothetically speaking of course.
That's true to. Does it make a great deal of difference to the Ark story if the raft was slightly longer or shorter. The ratios would still apply and dimensions aren't the make or break part of the story. If Rome used a furlong then that is the correct term from square 1.
All that means is the larger people would get more.
Nobody expected the length of a day to change between the end of the 1st day and the 4th day yer science can verify that it was 6 hours long at the older dated and from 4M years ago until today it has not changed. That only works if the old earth theory is what the original meant. That is why it is theology, you can't take all topics to a conclusion but there are a lot of questions that do have answers available. Some are 'odd', a verse from Jer:25 says all the nations on earth will be judged and another verse later on (like NT later) says 1/4 of the earth will be tried. Only we know that all the nations on the earth would take all the land on the globe, 1/4 of the whole earth. Oddities like that pop up every now and then. In that same theme Revelation uses the phrase, 'inhabitants of the earth' to mean global. That exact phrase is used only a few times in the OT, they all fit into the same theme as being a global event rather than local.
Cover to cover is good as far as an introduction. To fit all the various passages to each other is the 'solving the puzzle part'.
Misconception #1, nobody is erased from the book of life as the names are written in when we become sinless and immortal. In this era conception is when God recognized life as existing and since the new earth portion is using this era as a seed-bank for that era it means it starts off with a flourish rather than at the speed it happened in the past (billions of years) There should also be angelic cities found that use the same techniques found in the ancient past. Another post for that one.
The proof, the ones called 'the rest' in Re:20 would seem to be the ones in the most danger of being lost to the fiery lake. If that was supported by other parts then you would have to remove all of Hebrew:12 and all of Isaiah:65. Being 'forced to use them Isa:65 is a dedication to them and it starts off with their 'attitude' prior to the return, their punishment in hell are the sorrow verses after the sword is mentioned and servants are introduced. The new earth verses that follow are about 'the rest' rather than the servants due to what is said in a few other places. Hebrews:12 is their chastisement just before the new earth verses is one of those other pieces that fill in the blanks, rather than we get to 'imagine'.
No why would I God can do what he does and i would do what I do. if he were here
he'd be expected to obey the law of the land that is one of his own edicts anyway.
In an open society he would have no more power than any other citizen before the
law
I love it people start with the Bible quotes as soon as the subject of God comes up
some interpretations people have would render God confused about what he himself
said. I don't pray either most people pray for something or someone if God is listening
or ke knows everything then he would know what we want or need so why pray?
Is there a contest with a prize for who prays hardest? Don't think so.
Nope i would do my own thing like i am now
he'd be expected to obey the law of the land that is one of his own edicts anyway.
In an open society he would have no more power than any other citizen before the
law
I love it people start with the Bible quotes as soon as the subject of God comes up
some interpretations people have would render God confused about what he himself
said. I don't pray either most people pray for something or someone if God is listening
or ke knows everything then he would know what we want or need so why pray?
Is there a contest with a prize for who prays hardest? Don't think so.
Nope i would do my own thing like i am now
Does it leave any doubt that they were living in sin? How much more before the flood? Forget the exact total but something like 800,000 in a civil war over the death of a guys mistress. On resurrection dat those wars mean the group that is called the 'whole House of Israel' will be larger than if they did not have those wars. The whole purpose is always a little more than what is apparent at first. The virgins capture have their whole familes anbd nations killed in the exodus wars as also being a part of the 'whole House' just because of where they fit the Re:20:4 list. Stuff lie that doesn't happen accidentally. The Bible is the the witness of one person, God.
Since when did refering to written notes make a testimony less valuable. A written account will be accurate longer than the same thing that is in oral form. The biggest obstacle to 'getting it' is sometimes the person himself. One English Bible, all the others are different so they are money-makes, the 'easier to read' part is a marketing trick. Copyright says it has to be 'quite different', the Torah stressed it remain accurate in every jot, that standard didn't get put aside, God is a perfectionist after all.
i would never worship anyone, respect yes, disappointment in some, yes.
from my point of view in life, worshiping someone shows a lack of confidence in yourself, lack of feeling
equal, lack of being able to cope in life, and yes, help should be on the way for many, but 'real'
help from real people, hands on help, as we can all help each other, without worshiping anything.
i'm sure my 5 cats all think they are the god of the house, and should be knelt and prayed to, sorry
but i love all of you, but i am your leader, and don't forget it, you all have a very cushy life, good
food, warm and dry, baskets to rest in, life is good.
Is there a cure for blindness? If God existed there would be and that cure would be God waving his magic wand. If God existed why would I have to spend my money curing blindness? God could do it. And not only that, he'd be responsible. I guess what the question is really asking is if God existed would you feel compelled to make up for his gross negligence? Some people already believe God exists. Some even claim to be God's representatives. Do they help people very much?
Since you love them and they are destined to enter the grave you will miss them and will be unable to get them back from there. When 'somebody' pulls them from there you will worship them in a single heartbeat, if you don't think so you are only kidding yourself.
God killed an animal in the garden to cloth Adam and Eve, Chtist has birds and animals feast on human flesh at His return and then they all die. The only 'other flesh' that is alive for the 1,000 years is some fish in the (former) Dead Sea (Eze;47) That kind of flesh doesn't know about good and evil and the 1,000 is the time it takes to transform 'believers' into Saints so they can witness God sent an untold number of fallen angels to the fiery lake and not flinch. That event also includes a trip to the Great White Throne and it is in a location that does allow being who are not Saints at the least. The only place they could go is the fiery lake so rather than let that happen that period will be rain and grass or pasture building 201. That will come in handy as the retutrn to the earth would see Gen:2 unfolds except behind Adam and Eve is all of mankind and the water that comes out of New Jerusalem.
Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
Isa:60:22:
A little one shall become a thousand,
and a small one a strong nation:
I the LORD will hasten it in his time.
A lot more to do with king of kings thing as Neb was the first and Christ is the last one.
Romans:13 put all that on the shoulders of the leaders of the various nations. How well they did is what their judgment in Jer:25 is all about. They seem have messed up more than they did right. I doubt 24,000 children dieing per day is impressing Him much as well as the larger crimes.
since i was a child, i have loved many many cats, which all have gone to the grave, in many different yards,
and i manage to move forward, and because i have such a good relationship with animals, i always find
more to come live with me, same with dogs.
i can move forward, say goodbye, remember the good life they had with me, and they gave to me, which makes
for more good relationships for new ones.
it is a simple life, living with animals, they don't ask much, but it makes me happy to see them happy
and healthy, it is our duty to care for the animals of the earth, they depend on us.
i don't carry any lingering or needy feelings with me when my animals stop living, i am happy that i gave
them a good life. they are in the earth forever, just as i will be when i'm gone,
i'm not going anywhere else, i'll be there as long as the earth exists.
I would hope you would find a statement like that hard to believe, I would find it hard to believe. I never even implied that. I am a work in progress that will never be finished. I am human, I am not God.
Let me ask you this, Grain. Did you always do everything your Parents told you to do? Taught you to do? When you were "bad", did they toss you aside? God is our Parent. He loves ALL of us unconditionally. So, even though I am not perfect, and I am "bad" at times, I know that he loves me and he always will. He will never desert me nor will he forsake me. It doesn't matter what some sheep herder from 2000+ years ago wrote in a book under the guise of "God's guidance". I HAVE a personal relationship with Christ and our Father. I let him tell me what is what, not someone else.
I gave up on having pets around when it became that I would outlive them. Electric things can fill the void as do plants. In my case one plant covers about 1 sq mile of actual land.
As I just mentioned God gave Neb authority over the beasts of the field as part of the king of kings title. That was passed on from God and since Christ is the King of Kings He has life and death authority and He uses it in a covenant of remembrance, that obligates Him to remember them at the earliest moment and that would be where Re:22 ends off. God does the same for all the ones not covered by Christ's covenant with the dead. I wonder who gets the black bear that the work horses kicked over a cliff?
Lu:12:6-7:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Merry X-mas gerr.
Ro:5:17-21:
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one;
much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one,
Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,
so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Moreover the law entered,
that the offence might abound.
But where sin abounded,
grace did much more abound:
That as sin hath reigned unto death,
even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ro:6:1:
What shall we say then?
Shall we continue in sin,
that grace may abound?
Ro:6:2:
God forbid.
How shall we,
that are dead to sin,
live any longer therein?
For me, god does exist and I live my life according to that belief on a daily basis. We will judge ourselves according to how we have treated and judged others for that is a part of our lesson while here on earth.
People live the way they live not because they believe or disbelieve in a god but because of what they believe their god expects of them OR because of what they expect of themselves. There are many people that I know who do not have a belief in god and yet their personal integrity is beyond measure as is their kindness, understanding and acceptance of others. Some people do not have high expectations or confidence or desire to rise above the level they exist at. That is just a lack of awareness not necessarily their fault.
I no longer believe in sin per se but I sure do see karma unfold daily before my eyes. The energy you put out is exactly what you draw back. It is almost measurable. I don't think people in the west understand karma well not unless they have gone deep into themselves to understand the energy flow of life.
we are blessed in this country in ways too numerous to count
we are the apple of god's eye and we are not ignorant unless we choose to be
I have never plodded through life and I haven't warmed a pew for years and yet god is alive and well in my life, in my heart and soul. As for applause it happens daily with every kindness we do for another or even for ourselves...applause is there for every good deed we do and thought we have and good wishes we have for another on a moment by moment basis...we have but to quiet ourselves to hear it...there is applause all around us.
that is a bizarre thing to say, and I agree completely
As a farm kid we cared for all of animals, chicken, dogs, horses. Forests are made for cameras. Same critters, my level of responsibility falls off.
One small change and everything is different...
That makes my head spin...one small change...
Lone, is that your beautiful puppydog in your avatar?
Not only contradictions but outdated or socially irrelevant passages are ignored so people pick and choose what they will or will not follow. If people truly believed they would follow every scripture.
Just for clarification, the same crazy Bedouin Arabs who brought us long lines up at the airport and a Parliament with limited access by the people who own it are the same ones who brought us the Torah, Bible and Koran. They're brown and not white but in fairness they are Caucasian.
I don't believe you.
Psychologists tells us that when a picture of a big pair of eyes is planted above an object(s) we are less likely to steal or help ourselves when given the opportunity. Researchers have observed that most people do not wash their hands in a restroom if they are alone and almost all wash their hands when someone else is there.
I doubt you would be the exception and live your life contrary to the wishes of God if you knew for fact She existed.
Precisely. So if God existed how would you live differently? Would you want answers to those questions? Would you hate Her for creating Ebola or defend it?
Why blame gawd for human greed and ignorance? I think gawd is indifferent to human stupidity, arrogance and malice. It is more interested in what we learn from it.