Icebound Iqaluit!

petros

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New threat,the permafrost is melting,guess we have to change the name to non-permafrost.

Petros,How many times have you seen ice get blown ashore like that overnight?
I thought it was quite common.
Where did you get the silly idea that the Arctic ocean has tides and winds that can push ice inland over permafrost slicked by mud and water? A climate scientist?
 

taxslave

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Petros,How many times have you seen ice get blown ashore like that overnight?
I thought it was quite common.

Not to a climate scientist working out of his mother's basement in Toronto.
I've seen the same thing to a much lessor extent of course in the inlets on the West Coast.
 

L Gilbert

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Ya well you never have been there
Huh? How would you know where I've been or not? Whatta fu cking moron.
so what you post means nothing to me,
Yet you keep answering my posts. lmao
like I showed,you dont want to discuss or debate anything,
You haven't shown anything except your incompetence at discussion and inability to provide support for your moronic claims.
thats obvious in your last few posts,Let me know when you grow up a bit and mature and want to discuss issues regarding Canada ok?
lol You haven't got a clue what maturity is, so your suggestion means dic kall.

You come across as a troll with friends.Crybabys and whiners.
Funny the majority of them come from Ontario.
Well, now you've met someone from BC that doesn't put up with your sewer sludge. :)

I golfed a 77 today. What did you guys do with your Sunday?
Beached our butts. A little boating, too.
 

Tonington

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These graphs will give some idea of what is happening to Arctic Sea ice. Click on them for an animated version to the present. It should be noted that extent is just area and the real story is in mass and volume.

Arctic Sea Ice | Open Mind

Actually, extent isn't area. Extent is defined as any area in the grid with greater than 15% concentration of sea ice. You can see the difference when you compare extent numbers with area, which come from different data products. Current NH sea ice area is 3.556 million square kilometers, while the current NH sea ice extent is 5.876 million square kilometers. You can get a crude estimate of how fragmented the ice is by comparing the two. Extent includes a lot of open water.

That's why many are expecting rapid disintegration over the next few days, as an intense low pressure system moves over an area of fragmented ice on the southeast side of the Arctic. The biggest changes will likely be seen in the extent numbers, as the fragmented ice becomes compacted by the storm.

The storms aren't just bad for the sea ice, they're also bad for coastal areas. The reduction in sea ice opens up more land to storm surge, and one such storm in 1999 caused a significant impact on the MacKenzie delta. Storm surge moved about 20 kilometers inland, and killed 90% of the alders growing in the area. It also increased the abundance of a salt water algae growing in an inland lake, effectively transforming a freshwater lake into a brackish lake. Years later, there has been no recovery of that ecosystem.
Impacts of a recent storm surge on an Arctic delta ecosystem examined in the context of the last millennium
 

Cabbagesandking

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I was using it loosely, Tonington, to mean the area of the waters that has ice present. Thanks for explaining it, though, I forgot that some of our friends would not have understood. I simply want to contrast that witl volume - as shown in the Charts - to emphasise the massive reduction that has already occurred.

Funny how this has now become all about the wind blowing ice ashore as though it were of any relevance. Though, of course, the winds up there have become stronger and more intense with the warmer air.

But, the thirty year record of decline is not true since every year the wind blows the ice ashore.
 

Kakato

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I was using it loosely, Tonington, to mean the area of the waters that has ice present. Thanks for explaining it, though, I forgot that some of our friends would not have understood. I simply want to contrast that witl volume - as shown in the Charts - to emphasise the massive reduction that has already occurred.

Funny how this has now become all about the wind blowing ice ashore as though it were of any relevance. Though, of course, the winds up there have become stronger and more intense with the warmer air.

But, the thirty year record of decline is not true since every year the wind blows the ice ashore.
No,the winds have remained the same,Environment canada has records going back to the first weather stations in the arctic before you were born.
I have been trying to point out this is a natural occurrence that happens all the time and explain it and you drag your agenda into it.
Too funny,maybe you need some graphs.
 

Cabbagesandking

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From ice cores to tectonics to coral reefs? Sounds like bull**** to me.

That shows how well acquainted you are with geophysics. The lithosphere falls within the same field and it all the happenings in that are interconnected. Earthquakes, tectonic shift, the effect of coral on the surface (loss of or addition to).

He did one on sea level rise in the last interglacial in a very specific area, too. That is all part of it: the lithosphere. That one, incidentally, was amusing since it delighted the deniers for a short time until they were sufficiently ridiculed for their misunderstanding.
 

Kakato

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That shows how well acquainted you are with geophysics. The lithosphere falls within the same field and it all the happenings in that are interconnected. Earthquakes, tectonic shift, the effect of coral on the surface (loss of or addition to).

He did one on sea level rise in the last interglacial in a very specific area, too. That is all part of it: the lithosphere. That one, incidentally, was amusing since it delighted the deniers for a short time until they were sufficiently ridiculed for their misunderstanding.
No,what happened in Iqaluit is normal,it happens all the time in the arctic and many other places,it has nothing to do with a freaking litho sphere or climate change.

It's just the wind dude,nothing more,nothing less.
 

Cabbagesandking

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If I post a description of, say, Hurricane Katrina, you will claim that the Hurricane never happened because the report is from a blog run by scientists?

Do you have one brain between you that you can share?