Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:

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Durry said:
It's really not much of a fight.
Hamas is bound to lose big time again!! Why they (Hamas) keep fighting back and prolonging the inevitable is just beyond me!!

Gotta be a mental problem there somewhere!!
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Perhaps the reason for the Gaza ghetto resistance can be found in history?

"I don’t think there’s any real need to analyze the Uprising in military terms. This was a war of less than a thousand people against a mighty army and no one doubted how it was likely to turn out. This isn’t a subject for study in military school. (...) If there’s a school to study the human spirit, there it should be a major subject. The important things were inherent in the force shown by Jewish youth after years of degradation, to rise up against their destroyers, and determine what death they would choose: Treblinka or Uprising."[
(Zucherman, 1968, on the Warsaw ghetto uprising as quoted in Wikipedia)
 
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gore0bsessed said:
UN: 80 per cent of Palestinians killed in Israeli offensive are civilians - Telegraph



UN: 80 per cent of Palestinians killed in Israeli offensive are civilians

Four out of every five Palestinians killed during Israel's ongoing military offensive in Gaza have been civilians, including dozens of women and children, the United Nations said on Monday.
The statistic was disclosed by the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) amid mounting international concern over non-combatant casualties during an operation Israeli officials have said is aimed solely at rooting out militants and stopping rockets being fired into Israel.
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First of all, if the IDF is scoring 20% militant casualties, they are doing TWICE as well as is expected in modern warfare, where the expected casualty ratio combatant to non-combatant is 1:10. Not only is the IDF managingf to halve that expectation, they are doing it against an enemy that prides itself on the use of human shields, in a very densely populated area.

Secondly, it is BS. You heard exactly the same crap about civilian losses in Operation Cast Lead, in the intifada, in the at-sea raids, and they are CRAP. Every time, after the fact, after the conflict falls off the evening news, it turns out Israel was not killing civilians wholesale, it was killing militants. In Operation Cast Lead, after it was all over, HAMAS admitted that Israel had killed 650 militants, one half the death toll, and TEN TIMES better than expected in modern war.

Thirdly, the UN is rabidly anti-Israel. If you don't know that, you REALLY shouldn't be discussing the matter.

Meanwhile, ISIS continues to murder, mass execute, and crucify its way across Iraq.......picking up WMD on the way, but hey! Let's pile on the JOOS!!!!!!
 
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Colpy said:
Absolutely.

And the death of children is an unthinkable tragedy. I can't imagine losing one of mine.

But let's place the blame where it belongs; with Hamas, who started this fight, who will not end it, and who is quite willing to see children die for their propaganda war.
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Hear Hear!!


Hamas is on the radio stating that they "the Palestinians" are martyrs for the cause. The world should be outrages and Hamas should be brought to their knees - but what do we hear? How Isreal is responsible for everything that goes wrong in the world. It makes me sick!!


How can people not see what is actually happening? Unbelievable.


JMHO
 
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In some news report, I read the kids were playing the Muddled East's version of cops 'n' robbers or cowboys 'n' Indians generations of kids have done here: Arabs and Jews....
 
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Colpy said:
First of all, if the IDF is scoring 20% militant casualties, they are doing TWICE as well as is expected in modern warfare, where the expected casualty ratio combatant to non-combatant is 1:10. Not only is the IDF managingf to halve that expectation, they are doing it against an enemy that prides itself on the use of human shields, in a very densely populated area.

Secondly, it is BS. You heard exactly the same crap about civilian losses in Operation Cast Lead, in the intifada, in the at-sea raids, and they are CRAP. Every time, after the fact, after the conflict falls off the evening news, it turns out Israel was not killing civilians wholesale, it was killing militants. In Operation Cast Lead, after it was all over, HAMAS admitted that Israel had killed 650 militants, one half the death toll, and TEN TIMES better than expected in modern war.

Thirdly, the UN is rabidly anti-Israel. If you don't know that, you REALLY shouldn't be discussing the matter.

Meanwhile, ISIS continues to murder, mass execute, and crucify its way across Iraq.......picking up WMD on the way, but hey! Let's pile on the JOOS!!!!!!
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How do you even argue with this guy? He calls facts "B.S", calls any group that exposes Israel for their crimes as anti-Israel or anti-Jewish, he's completely irrational and ignorant and blindly supports Israel in whatever they do.
This is the reality, the majority of civilian deaths are attributed to the IDF, period. You can't even argue that, if you'd even try I'd have to think you were trolling. Israel has repeatedly shown a disregard for civilian causalities on the Palestinian side, they DO NOT CARE about them. THEY WILL, and HAVE killed Palestinian children. Netanyahu is a lunatic right-wing war monger.
This doesn't mean I support Hamas rockets firing into Israel, but the amount of deaths attributed to their rockets wouldn't amount to a fraction of the deaths caused by the IDF.
You keep whining about anti-Jewish sentiment anytime someone dares criticize Israel while you simultaneously flaunt your vitriolic and irrational hatred for ALL Muslims. You're a hypocrite.

Dixie Cup said:
Hear Hear!!


Hamas is on the radio stating that they "the Palestinians" are martyrs for the cause. The world should be outrages and Hamas should be brought to their knees - but what do we hear? How Isreal is responsible for everything that goes wrong in the world. It makes me sick!!


How can people not see what is actually happening? Unbelievable.


JMHO
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Don't ignore Israel's illegal settlements in the West Bank which fueled much of this hatred for them. Many Palestinians became homeless because of this.
 
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Hamas needs to stop forcing civilians to remain in the areas they fire rockets at Israel from.

Hamas is 100% responsible for the number of civilian casualties.
 
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Praxius said:
Defending themselves from innocent civilians?

Interesting.

Gotta go kill those 9-11 year old kids playing on a beach.... wouldn't want the rest of the world to see Palestinians are humans like the rest of us.

But yes, Israel is "Defending" themselves from the bad guys firing rockets at them.... that's why they blew up a beach with children on it and some fishing shacks. That's why they fire little rockets at the rooftops of civilian homes to warn them they're about to destroy their homes..... because they're hoarding piles of weapons, bombs and rockets under the beds.

Palestinians are Israel's little play thing whom they like to treat like a dog in a cage they can do whatever they want to, constantly terrorizing and starving out the people and when they actually try and fight back, they're beaten to an inch of their life while the rest of the world cheers them on like a school yard bully.

Before making this thread, I did a quick Google search of "Gaza"..... you know what I saw? Give it a try. Safe Search on or not, you're not going to find anything pretty.

But after all.... they had it all coming to them I suppose.
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No, they're defending themselves from Hamas who are the terrorists - the Palestinians are pawns and victims. Hamas has no interest in saving Palestinian lives and the world is ignoring this much to my chagrin. Why isn't anyone condemning Hamas? WHY?


Israel, however is the opposite - they're trying to save their citizens from being murdered by Hamas and, despite the fighting, are still sending supplies into Gaza. Hamas, by their own admission are using the Palestinian civilians as "martyrs" by putting them in harms way. Why is that the fault of Israel?


Someone once said, and I truly believe it - "when the Palestinians love their children as much as they hate the Israeli's, this will stop". When the civilian population of the Palestinians decide to rise up and put a stop to Hamas and their elk this will stop. Until the world starts standing up against the evil that Hamas stands for, nothing will change. The population has been "brain-washed" into believing that this fighting is for their benefit. It's not. That's why so many are dying. This has absolutely nothing to do with a "2-state solution" This is the activity of hateful, evil people trying to destroy Israel off the map. They make no bones about it. Why do so many people not believe what they say? All you have to do is look at their actions. How is it that some are so blind that they cannot see???


And I would bet that, even if the terrorists are ever successful in destroying Israel, things won't change a bit. I guarantee that the fighting among themselves will still continue. I wonder then who they will blame then??


Until then Israel has every right to defend herself.


JMHO

gore0bsessed said:
How do you even argue with this guy? He calls facts "B.S", calls any group that exposes Israel for their crimes as anti-Israel or anti-Jewish, he's completely irrational and ignorant and blindly supports Israel in whatever they do.
This is the reality, the majority of civilian deaths are attributed to the IDF, period. You can't even argue that, if you'd even try I'd have to think you were trolling. Israel has repeatedly shown a disregard for civilian causalities on the Palestinian side, they DO NOT CARE about them. THEY WILL, and HAVE killed Palestinian children. Netanyahu is a lunatic right-wing war monger.
This doesn't mean I support Hamas rockets firing into Israel, but the amount of deaths attributed to their rockets wouldn't amount to a fraction of the deaths caused by the IDF.
You keep whining about anti-Jewish sentiment anytime someone dares criticize Israel while you simultaneously flaunt your vitriolic and irrational hatred for ALL Muslims. You're a hypocrite.



Don't ignore Israel's illegal settlements in the West Bank which fueled much of this hatred for them. Many Palestinians became homeless because of this.
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Right and they left Gaza in 2005 and what did THAT get them? Terrorists closer to Israel so they can take better shots at them. Me thinks the "Fool me once" scenario applies here - Israel is not stupid enough to try it twice.



JMHO
 
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CDNBear said:
Hamas needs to stop forcing civilians to remain in the areas they fire rockets at Israel from.

Hamas is 100% responsible for the number of civilian casualties.
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They hold some responsibility, but 100% is obviously not accurate in the slightest and is blatantly disingenuous.

Dixie Cup said:
Right and they left Gaza in 2005 and what did THAT get them? Terrorists closer to Israel so they can take better shots at them. Me thinks the "Fool me once" scenario applies here - Israel is not stupid enough to try it twice.
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they never really left Gaza, they still controlled anything that went in and out, controlled their skies, etc..
 
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Islamists in Syria? Iraq? Egypt? Gaza? Libya? No, just some Muslims in Paris protesting against Israel
 
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