History of Israel in a 3 minute cartoon

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Embarassed of what? Todays Hebrews don't believe the myth either. Just like some Christians need to stop perpetuating Jesus of Narareth in Galilee was Judean (Jew).

Today he'd be a Palestinian.

Embarrassed of being powerless to stop lowly slaves from walking out from under their noses, having the one true God intervene against them, and possibly even losing their Pharaoh.

Not believing in something doesn't make it untrue, so what some modern Jews believe is irrelevant.

Of course Jesus is Jewish. The evidence for it overwhelming Petros. His circumcision, presentation at the temple as a baby, boyhood attendance at the temple, teaching in the temple, speaking Hebrew, observing traditions like Passover, his Jewish followers, etc. flies in face of your claim that He wasn't Jewish. Jews existed 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ was one of them, get over it all ready!
 

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Both Israelites and Judeans are Hebrews. Judea split from Israel after the death of the demon worshipping Solomon and his bastard sons ****ed it all up. From this point on Hebrews of Israel were disconnected from the Hebrews of Judea. Judea then became even less true to the Hebrew israerlite religion when the Edomites invaded which were a forced conversion group and not of the Abraham lineage. This backed by Flavius just after the time of Jesus who wrote; They [Edom] were hereafter no other than Jews'. and the Concise Jewish Encyclodpedia (1980) says on page 154; "John Hyrcanus forcibly converted [Edom] to Judaism. From then on they were part of the Jewish people.

It's all in II Kings.

John 7:1 After this, Jesus traveled about in Galilee, because he didn't want to travel in Judea, since the Jews there were trying to kill him.

More in John 7:13, 19:38, 20:19

Were the Israelites trying to kill him or the Judeans?

Isaiah warned the Israeites of Edom....

Isaiah 63:1-6

1Who is this coming from Edom,
from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor,
striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
“It is I, speaking in righteousness,
mighty to save.”
2Why are your garments red,
like those of one treading the winepress?
3“I have trodden the winepress alone;
from the nations no one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger
and trod them down in my wrath;
their blood spattered my garments,
and I stained all my clothing.
4For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
and the year of my redemption has come.
5I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm worked salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.
6I trampled the nations in my anger;
in my wrath I made them drunk
and poured their blood on the ground.”
 

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And when you consider the scope and magnificence of the universe from the sub-atomic to entire galaxies, it's apparent of the omnipotence that would have to behind it.



" I cannot understand these things, therefore, God!"
No.

An excellent demonstration of why Iran can never be permitted to develop nuclear weapons.

So they can't adequately defend themselves from Israel? With all Netanyahu's warmongering rhetoric Iran would love to attain nukes for a deterrent against Israeli aggression.
What idiot truly believes if Iran attained nukes they use them on Israel ? The backlash would be too severe .
 

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Well, there are early, non-biblical historians who record the exodus. Certainly as historians they would have believed that what they were recording was a historical event. They didn't record these as myths, or popular legends for their time, otherwise it wouldn't be cited as extra-biblical sources.

Further, considering that we're talking about ancient times, having any type of historical record from that time is a treasure. So when you read the Exodus event in the bible, with its details about specific locations by name, people and their specific backgrounds, and profound dialogue, it presses on one that the authors of the Torah were meticulously recording their history. They, and their fathers were witnesses to all the events surrounding the exodus (i.e. parting the red sea, wandering the desert, manna from heaven, crossing the Jordan River, conquering Canaan etc).

The Book of Exodus is the historical record of that and its surrounding events. Please remember that the exodus event was several thousand years ago, and today we're fortunate just to have remnants of the second temple (let alone the first!), and that was built 2000 to 1500 years after the exodus. New archaeological finds with biblical ties are still happening today, so there's still lots for us to discover.

And in wider scope, the entire bible is the historical record of creation, Israel, and Jesus Christ. Surely it's rich in detail concerning these things because God wanted us to have an accurate picture of these important events, people, and the background behind them. By doing this, He gave us the proper context to understand why we're here (our purpose) and where we're going (His plan for us).



It's illogical, and impossible, for something let alone everything to come from nothing, and the most judicial philosopher on the planet will never grant you that it can.

And when you consider the scope and magnificence of the universe from the sub-atomic to entire galaxies, it's apparent of the omnipotence that would have to behind it. An omnipotent and therefore omniscient being is not illogical if you carefully consider it.

An omnipotent being is about as illogical as it gets.

" I cannot understand these things, therefore, God!"
No.



So they can't adequately defend themselves from Israel? With all Netanyahu's warmongering rhetoric Iran would love to attain nukes for a deterrent against Israeli aggression.
What idiot truly believes if Iran attained nukes they use them on Israel ? The backlash would be too severe .

What idiot believes that Iran will not send a few nukes at Israel once they figure out how to build one?
 

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So they can't adequately defend themselves from Israel? With all Netanyahu's warmongering rhetoric Iran would love to attain nukes for a deterrent against Israeli aggression.
What idiot truly believes if Iran attained nukes they use them on Israel ? The backlash would be too severe .

They don't NEED a defense against Israel.....they share no borders, Israel has to fly over hostile territory to reach them.

Fortunately, the Arab nations also know the Iranians are nuts, but the lack the cojones to tackle the problem themselves......so Israel's attack on Iranian nuclear sites will miraculously go unnoticed in any Arab state the fly over.....as wikileaks revealed.

Israel has never attacked Iran, excepting the judicious whacking of a couple of nuclear scientists.........outside of the nuclear threat, Israel has no wish to attack Iran. Why would they??

However, Iran has been carrying on a war by proxy against Israel for decades.

Iran is led by apocalyptic morons aching for the End Days and the return of the Twelveth Imam.....and you know what the end days require when it comes to Jews....you have read the hadith???

What idiot believes that Iran will not send a few nukes at Israel once they figure out how to build one?

Goreobsessed.

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Israel is a wonderful peaceful country full of special people who only want to live in peace whereever they can steal a piece of land and inflict genocide on the indigenous populations free from any humanitarian interference from aunti semites. Israel isn't good enough to be dirt
 

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They don't NEED a defense against Israel.....they share no borders, Israel has to fly over hostile territory to reach them.
Anyone who listens to Netanyahu's rhetoric knows that's horse****. He's a war monger who has been lobbying the U.S to go to war with Iran for the longest time, he's a huge threat to Iran.

Fortunately, the Arab nations also know the Iranians are nuts, but the lack the cojones to tackle the problem themselves......so Israel's attack on Iranian nuclear sites will miraculously go unnoticed in any Arab state the fly over.....as wikileaks revealed.

Israel has never attacked Iran, excepting the judicious whacking of a couple of nuclear scientists.........outside of the nuclear threat, Israel has no wish to attack Iran. Why would they??

You're ok with the Israel committing terror acts against Iranian scientists.



Iran is led by apocalyptic morons aching for the End Days and the return of the Twelveth Imam.....and you know what the end days require when it comes to Jews....you have read the hadith???
It might be true that Iranian's regime are filled with nutjobs, they are theocratic after all. But do you honestly believe Israel's regime is any better? Netanyahu took out a bomb diagram in his idiotic speech to the U.N ffs!
 

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Anyone who listens to Netanyahu's rhetoric knows that's horse****. He's a war monger who has been lobbying the U.S to go to war with Iran for the longest time, he's a huge threat to Iran.



You're ok with the Israel committing terror acts against Iranian scientists.




It might be true that Iranian's regime are filled with nutjobs, they are theocratic after all. But do you honestly believe Israel's regime is any better? Netanyahu took out a bomb diagram in his idiotic speech to the U.N ffs!

If Iran has no nukes, Israel has no reason to attack it.

Buy a map.

Yep. Killing scientists determined to create the weapons to destroy Israel and every Jew therein is not only necessary, it was the right thing to do. These guys were not innocent bystanders.

Israel has had nukes since 1969. They keep them disassembled to prevent hasty use in time of emergency. For decades, they refused even to speak of them, much less threaten anyone with them.......Israel has proven itself a responsible with nuclear arms.

Iran has been yapping about the destruction of Israel for decades. It has armed Hezbollah to the teeth with sophisticated weapons. Hezbollah is led by Nasrallah, a genocidal lunatic that "wishes all Jews would move to Israel, so they can all be killed in one place"

Israel is a secular nation, a democracy.

Iran is led by the mullahs......read the hadith to see their plan for the Jews.

There are none so blind as those that will not see.
 

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If Iran has no nukes, Israel has no reason to attack it.
What about Lebanon, Egypt, America, Somalia, Iraq, Syria etc, what reason did Israel (crime state of) have for attacking these non nuclear neighbours. Your claim is entirely baseless.
Buy a map.

Yep. Killing scientists determined to create the weapons to destroy Israel and every Jew therein is not only necessary, it was the right thing to do. These guys were not innocent bystanders.
Asassination (cold blooded murder) is only right in the zionist mindset which of course is criminal.

Israel has had nukes since 1969. They keep them disassembled to prevent hasty use in time of emergency. For decades, they refused even to speak of them, much less threaten anyone with them.......Israel has proven itself a responsible with nuclear arms.
Israels undeclared nuclear weapons program and it's refusal to sign the NPT remains one of the gravest threats to peace and survival on earth. Israel cannot in any way be deemed responsible for nuclear weapons it refuses to aknowledge.
Iran has been yapping about the destruction of Israel for decades. It has armed Hezbollah to the teeth with sophisticated weapons. Hezbollah is led by Nasrallah, a genocidal lunatic that "wishes all Jews would move to Israel, so they can all be killed in one place"
Yet we in the west have been literally bombarded by the MSmedia stooges with countless requests from Israel to strike this or that perceived enemy of that awful aparthied state. Everyone else is perceived as anti semetic, every time. Obviously an ultra paranoid nuclear armed state of war criminals is not healthy for the international community.
Israel is a secular nation, a democracy.

So make up your mind, is it the jewish state,or a secular state? The crack about democracy is just insane. That ended in the west some time ago.

Iran is led by the mullahs......read the hadith to see their plan for the Jews.
That's paranoid rubbish, everybody has plans for the Jews, every
ones out to get them
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There are none so blind as those that will not see.
Wow, you got one right. That's about a twelve percent rate. No better than your shooting I'd guess. Canada needs better leadership than that offered by the common Conservative zombie puppet.
 
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If Iran has no nukes, Israel has no reason to attack it.

Buy a map.

Yep. Killing scientists determined to create the weapons to destroy Israel and every Jew therein is not only necessary, it was the right thing to do. These guys were not innocent bystanders.

Israel has had nukes since 1969. They keep them disassembled to prevent hasty use in time of emergency. For decades, they refused even to speak of them, much less threaten anyone with them.......Israel has proven itself a responsible with nuclear arms.

Iran has been yapping about the destruction of Israel for decades. It has armed Hezbollah to the teeth with sophisticated weapons. Hezbollah is led by Nasrallah, a genocidal lunatic that "wishes all Jews would move to Israel, so they can all be killed in one place"

Israel is a secular nation, a democracy.

Iran is led by the mullahs......read the hadith to see their plan for the Jews.

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

You're wrong, those nuclear scientists were innocent bystanders who probably had wives and children. They were trying to make their country a better place, their goal had nothing to do with killing jews or destroying Israel.
You keep ignoring the fact that outside of Israel, Iran has the largest Jewish population in the middle east.

Just because Israel hasn't used their nukes doesn't mean they're responsible with them. It means they're smart enough to know the blowback ramifications if they attempted to use them. No country with nukes has ever used them with the exception of the USA, not even North Korea.
 

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Sooooooo? How do you paranoid folks figure Iran will deliver a nuke to Israel? UPS? Camel train? Kids on bicycles?
 

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Iran's been threatened so many times, it's not a shock they're going to prepare themselves in case they're attacked.
 

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Gee whiz Wally! Do you mean nobody has bothered to try stopping their missle program instead of fictional nukes?

Well Beaver, a long rang missile is not a WMD, a nuke or chemical weapon is..


thanks, rather be Wally ;)