Harper- will he stay or will he go -

Retired_Can_Soldier

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This says it well I think, it's not necessarily the policies of the government that are creating such distrust and disapproval of the Harper government, it's the way it governs.

Well said, the growing opposition to the conservative party is the result of the antagonism it creates as it walks over everything it sees as being in its way...which includes the rights and interests of millions of Canadians.


Relevance?
 

WLDB

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Seriously if Justin Trudeau gets elected look for western separatist parties..

They already exist. Pretty much every province has one. Hell, northern Ontario has one that wants to separate from southern Ontario. They've all always been marginal and are likely going to remain so.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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They already exist. Pretty much every province has one. Hell, northern Ontario has one that wants to separate from southern Ontario. They've all always been marginal and are likely going to remain so.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
 

WLDB

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Fear Gen Y -The Millennials.

They have to show up and vote. Im in that generation and am skeptical. Most people I know in my age group do vote but statistically we have never shown up in large numbers. The boomers are likely going to remain the dominant voting block for awhile yet.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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They have to show up and vote. Im in that generation and am skeptical. Most people I know in my age group do vote but statistically we have never shown up in large numbers. The boomers are likely going to remain the dominant voting block for awhile yet.

I agree.
 

SLM

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Give Cobalt a run at it. Let's see him and his mouth perform. :D

As PM???? Oh goodness, he'll have the entire opposition labeled as psychopaths. But on the upside, he won't be able to put them on ignore. ;)

I'd say his Senate picks were more a self-inflicted shot in the foot more than a Senate reform. Either way, he's shaken some Canadian confidence from his Cons

Serves us right for going and having confidence in politicians doesn't it?
 

Goober

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So who do we want to replace Harper and why?

Who said the Cons were gone - The Op is in regards to will he retire at the top of his game or go into an election that could leave him as the opposition- He has been there.
Harper- will he stay or will he go.
 

taxslave

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My money is still on Harper staying for one more election and arranging an leadership vote for midway through. That way his replacement will have over a year to get a feel for the job. I'm basing this on there currently being no viable alternative being presented by the other parties at the present time.
 

Zipperfish

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Not at all. The Canadian economy is strong, Harper is defending our northern lands..

What's the Liberals what to do.. give more rights to Quebec and Muslims.. what about Canadians..

Seriously if Justin Trudeau gets elected look for western separatist parties..

BC is good. Albertans are free to separate. They just can't take Alberta with them.
 

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As I mentioned before- This scandal has legs. And it is just starting to run.


Kelly McParland: Nigel Wright, a good man caught in an ugly world | National Post
I’ve never met Nigel Wright, and all I know of him is what I’ve read. But after consuming the 80-page, minutely detailed RCMP document released Wednesday, I have to say I sympathize with the guy. He comes across in the document just as his defenders have described him: capable, dedicated, “a person of good faith, of competence, with high ethical standards,” as Jason Kenney put it. You get the impression of a man who found himself in a rat’s nest, and tried to keep one of the rats from destroying himself. Instead, he got destroyed too.

Andrew Coyne: Stephen Harper’s story — and reputation — still hanging on by a thread | National Post

To get straight to the point — though it is hardly the point: Stephen Harper’s story, and with it his reputation and his office, have been hanging these past six months by the slenderest of threads

That thread, which the Prime Minister has artfully arranged over his own head, is that whatever illegal acts his every senior aide, Senate leader or party grandee might have known, approved of, connived in, covered up and lied about, he, personally, did not know before a certain date that Nigel Wright, his chief of staff, had written a personal cheque to reimburse Senator Mike Duffy for $90,000 in improperly claimed expenses.

The Prime Minister has hung onto that single thread even as every other part of his story has fallen apart: as “acted alone” became “very few,” as “full confidence” turned to “acted honourably” turned to “deceived,” as “resigned” turned to “dismissed.” So long as it could not be proven that he knew what he denied knowing, he could not be caught in a lie; and so long as the whole issue was framed as “did the Prime Minister flat-out lie to Parliament,” the multiple lies told by everyone around him, before, during and after the whole sordid affair might be made to recede into the background.